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    Wednesday 1-9-08

    Body weight: 192.0
    Squats: (45x5x3 145x5x2 185x5) 235x2
    Dumbbell Bench: (45x5 55x5) 70x8 70x6 70x5
    Back extensions: {bw}x10
    Chin-ups: {bw}x9 {bw}x5
    plus some power clean, snatch, and grip work.

    The weights felt pretty heavy today, so I think that I should probably eat more and make Wednesday a front squat day. We'll see how that works.
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    Friday 1-11-08

    Body weight: 192.8
    Squats: (45x5x4 135x5x2 185x5 205x3) 235x5x2
    Press: (45x5 95x5) 127.5x3 120x4
    Deadlifts: (135x5 225x5) 315x5

    I have not recovered from Wednesday. Not much at all. This probably has something to do with yesterday's schedule and not eating as much. I think that I'll take Monday easy to be sure that I recover for Wednesday.

    Here are two deadlift videos from today. I'd appreciate any comments, especially since I'm worried about how my back is looking in these.

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    315x5:

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    Are you sure that you're 6'1"? You look really tall, seems like quite a journey from start to finish. Looks like you need to keep your ass down and your head up and have it be more of a fluid motion. It kinda seems like you're performing 2 lifts in 1.
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    p.s. do you have the belt wrapped around your nipples? Looks like it's up pretty high.
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    Bump on Poly possibly actually being Shawn Bradley.
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    Poly's 6' 2'' max. He's just lanky.

    It does look a little too mechanical to me as well, but I think it's your lowering. I do it more stiff legged so that you don't have to go around your knee. I know Rip recommends the lowering that way, though.
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    Poly, check out alexeev's 507 press again sometime. It's total BS as he bends his knees to drive it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander View Post
    Are you sure that you're 6'1"? You look really tall, seems like quite a journey from start to finish. Looks like you need to keep your ass down and your head up and have it be more of a fluid motion. It kinda seems like you're performing 2 lifts in 1.
    Yeah, I agree about the ass down part and my head up. I don't have a very good idea about how low my ass is relative to be the rest of my body, I think. As far as height, I'm 6'1 but I might appear taller as the weightlifting shoes have a pretty thick heel, and the person taking the vid is my 5'0 girlfriend.

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    Poly, check out alexeev's 507 press again sometime. It's total BS as he bends his knees to drive it up.
    Oh man, I paused it at the right moment and his knees are absolutely bent. Well, they didn't have instant playback then I guess.

    Also, when/why the hell did you yack 8 times while walking.
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    I think I just ate too fast because I was in a hurry, but it was unusual for sure.
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    Monday 1-14-08

    Body weight: Forgot to weigh in
    Front Squats: (45x5x3 95x5 135x3) 185x3 195x3 205x3
    Dumbbell bench: (45x5 55x5) 70x8 70x7 70x6
    Back extensions: {bw}x10
    Chin-ups: {bw}x9
    Pull-ups: {bw}x5
    + a bit of power cleans and overhead squat attempts.

    I still feel weak/sick so I took it easy on the the squats and did front squats instead. I feel that I can probably get 225 on the front squats as 205 didn't feel very heavy, even in my current state. I hope to feel better by Wednesday.
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    It seems like you've been sick a lot. Do you think that you're overtraining?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas123 View Post
    It seems like you've been sick a lot. Do you think that you're overtraining?
    Good question. I think that I played around with the oly lifts too much a few times and didn't recover enough before the next squat session. I underestimate how much power cleans and snatches beat me up. I switched to front squats today to keep the intensity and volume lower, so hopefully I'll be better for Wednesday.

    I also recently switched back to the generic version of addy (from a free trial of an extended release that I got) and training time falls right around when the dose starts to wear off. I found that it takes me about 3 or 4 days to adjust when I switch to a new medication.

    As hard as it is on the ego, I'm gonna take it easy until I feel like I'm recovered.
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    Wednesday 1-16-08

    Body weight: 194.4
    Squats: (45x5x3 135x5x2 185x5 205x4) 225x5x3
    Press: (45x5 95x5 115x3) 125x3 115x5
    Power cleans: (45x5 90x3) 155x3 140x3x4
    Snatch: 90x3

    Wow, I think that this might be a combination of overtraining and being sick. That and since the semester started on Monday I haven't been getting nearly as much sleep. Oh well, I guess that I should take it easy on Friday and really hope to recover by Monday. I actually felt fatigued before I walked into the gym today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polynomial View Post
    Wednesday 1-16-08

    Body weight: 194.4
    Squats: (45x5x3 135x5x2 185x5 205x4) 225x5x3
    Press: (45x5 95x5 115x3) 125x3 115x5
    Power cleans: (45x5 90x3) 155x3 140x3x4
    Snatch: 90x3

    Wow, I think that this might be a combination of overtraining and being sick. That and since the semester started on Monday I haven't been getting nearly as much sleep. Oh well, I guess that I should take it easy on Friday and really hope to recover by Monday. I actually felt fatigued before I walked into the gym today.
    Being sick sucks so bad. Sounds like you need to just rest and maybe do some super easy workouts until you feel rejuvenated. I am always fatigued, but probably not the same level you're speaking of. I'm often mistaken for Stephen Wright.
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    I'm always fatigued too. I pretty much sleep until my set and then nap in between. Poly, no fast-twitch Fridays for you this week, but it looks like it might be a party in Kenney with Nick and Eric coming too. If you are around have the camera available there may be crashes.
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    Friday 1-18-08

    Body weight: 194.2
    Squats: (45x5x3 135x5x2 185x5 205x4) 225x5 225x4
    Bench: (45x5 95x5 135x5) 175x3 165x5 165x4
    Chin-ups: {bw}x9 {bw}x5
    Pull-ups: {bw}x5
    plus some overhead squat work.

    Not bad. I tried bench for the first time in a long time, and I think that if I got used to it I could make some progress. The deloading is going well so far.
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    Monday 1-21-08

    Body weight: 195.2
    Squat: (45x5x3 95x5 135x5x2 185x5 205x3) 230x5x2
    Press: (45x5 95x5 115x2) 120x5x2
    Deadlift: (135x5 225x5 315x1) 335x4

    I'm starting to feel much better, but I still took some weight down and cut off one set from the squats and the press, and 1 rep from the deadlift. Hopefully setting back will allow me to start back up in a nice linear progression on Friday.
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    Excellent. Time to get back in the groove. A guy that's competed in Oly lifting should be joining us for fast-twitch Fridays this week. It should be a good learning experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas123 View Post
    Excellent. Time to get back in the groove. A guy that's competed in Oly lifting should be joining us for fast-twitch Fridays this week. It should be a good learning experience.
    That's good news - it's power clean day for me. Do you know who it is?
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    Yeah, I've seen him around the gym and talked to him yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas123 View Post
    Yeah, I've seen him around the gym and talked to him yesterday.
    Is he a student or a postdoc or a prof? I wonder because JD said that he saw some guy that coached oly lifts before. By the way, I tried GHR's at IMPE today. Not bad...I probably could have played around with the settings a bit, but I wish that Kenny had that machine. Have you seen what they did to IMPE recently?
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    Only the East Wing. Didn't venture into the new parts.

    I think the dude is a grad student, but I'm not sure. JD is probably talking about the same guy.

    Yeah, their GHR station is pretty decent.
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    Wednesday 1-23-08

    Body weight: 196.2 (I think it's the creatine)
    Front Squats: (45x5x3 95x3 135x3) 185x3 205x3 185x3
    Bench Press: (45x5x2 115x5 135x5) 165x5x3
    Chin-ups: {bw}x9 {bw}x7 {bw}x6
    Overhead Squats: 45x8 75x8

    Not bad. I'm waiting to see what happens when Friday rolls around.
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    Friday 1-24-08

    Body weight: 197.2
    Squat: (45x5x3 135x5x2 185x5 205x3) 230x5x3
    Press: (45x5 95x5 115x3) {122.5}x5x2
    Power Clean: (45x5 90x3 140x2) 150x3x3 150x2x2

    I was experimenting with grip width on the press, and some of them aggravated my shoulder so I stopped at two sets. The power cleans felt pretty heavy today, but I was also experimenting with form.
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    Damn, you gained weight while being sick, that's awesome. I always lose at least 5 pounds when I get sick.

    Did the olympic lifter dude teach you anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander View Post
    Damn, you gained weight while being sick, that's awesome. I always lose at least 5 pounds when I get sick.

    Did the olympic lifter dude teach you anything?
    I don't know if it's water weight or what, but yeah, it's strange. I guess I've been eating enough donuts :burg:

    I didn't talk with the olympic guy much, but he didn't seem very approachable. His 301 c&j was damn impressive, though. jas also pulled 291 and later 301, I think, but I'm not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polynomial View Post
    I don't know if it's water weight or what, but yeah, it's strange. I guess I've been eating enough donuts :burg:

    I didn't talk with the olympic guy much, but he didn't seem very approachable. His 301 c&j was damn impressive, though. jas also pulled 291 and later 301, I think, but I'm not sure.
    This isn't the first time you've used creatine, is it? Who gives a sh*t if you gained a little fat, weight gain is always good in my book.

    What was so impressive about his 301 C n J? Is he small, or did he make it look like a feather?
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    301 is impressive from anyone, but the dude is like 205, maybe a smidge taller than me. I'm surprised that he can jrek that much as he's not a very good presser. I missed 301 and 296, Poly, but got 291.
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    Get off his nuts, Jas. Their are plenty of 205ers that can C n J 350+. Quit excluding Poly, douche bag.
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    Excluding Poly? Are you taking Rogue-like painkillers? What's your best C n J, Alex?

    Poly, you're probably retaining some water for sure, but by how much have you increased your daily caloric intake? I somewhat disagree with Alex. I'd try to keep it at least somewhat quality weight (a little fat gain is fine, of course), but I guess it depends on your goals. If it's pure strength, then eat everything in sight. :donut:
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas123 View Post
    I'd try to keep it at least somewhat quality weight (a little fat gain is fine, of course), but I guess it depends on your goals. If it's pure strength, then eat everything in sight. :donut:
    Yeah, I want to gain strength but not much fat, so that I don't have to buy new pants. Right now it's gotten a bit out of hand and I might have to do some 'cutting' or something. I'll try monitoring my calories really well, and if that doesn't work, I'll do some crossfit for a few weeks until I'm at a low enough bodyfat %, and then I'll fine-tune my diet.

    I know that you've been lifting for a long ass time, jas, but when did you eventually hit 220, and was there much fat gain during the process?
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    I've been lifting for 15 years straight, never taken more than a week off. I was at 205-210 for a long time. I think when I started strongman training I was 210 and hit 220 around September or Oct with a little fat gain, but not too much. I'd guess that I'm 12-13% right now.

    I think you may have increase your calories too much. If you were maintaining your weight of 180-185 at 2000-2500 calories, then 3000 seems sufficient to gain mainly lean mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas123 View Post
    I think you may have increase your calories too much. If you were maintaining your weight of 180-185 at 2000-2500 calories, then 3000 seems sufficient to gain mainly lean mass.
    I found a way to figure out a good caloric intake, assuming that I can go through with it: I'll eat the same thing every day for a week and see how it affects me... Yay science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas123 View Post
    Excluding Poly? Are you taking Rogue-like painkillers? What's your best C n J, Alex?

    Poly, you're probably retaining some water for sure, but by how much have you increased your daily caloric intake? I somewhat disagree with Alex. I'd try to keep it at least somewhat quality weight (a little fat gain is fine, of course), but I guess it depends on your goals. If it's pure strength, then eat everything in sight. :donut:
    Real men don't take painkillers, unless you consider Jim Beam a painkiller. I can Jerk the sh*t out of some weight, but I'm afraid of the catch on the clean Right now, I can't do sh*t
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    That sounds like a good plan, Poly, it may be a little biased though if your retaining water from creatine...

    Afraid of the clean....****ing studio lifters make me sick Alex, you are now
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    People are repping you, I'd love to know for what. Yeah, I'm a complete b*tch it really sucks. A friend was over here yesterday and told me he could probably kick my ass now that I'm handicapped, he was serious. I'm not good at being injured, too big a blast to my monsterous ego that got inflated by banging so many dimes!!!!!!
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    The last repping was for the telling Mullet he'd Benoit someone because of roid rage (with the proper setup, ingenious ). I'm the King, get over it.
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    I've noticed that if I tell my worst jokes, people like them. My good ones are too much for most dull mid-westerners to handle. I'm gonna go Benoit myself.
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