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  1. looks good to me. if you're going to utilize rest pauses though, do 2 of em to get your money's worth . looks like you changed the order around some on the exercises. that's not a huge issue but just be sure to keep it consistent with whatever order you choose. jumbling around the order can screw up the possibility of beating the log book. know what i mean, jellybean?

  2. oh, and try for 90 second stretches before upping the weight on them.

  3. Yah, some of the stuff wasn't working that well so I subbed in new stuff, I think this is the permanent structure. I plan on trying 75 next week then 90 the next for the stretches

  4. So today was semi crappy/semi awesome, I don't know what to think of it.

    DB bench
    85x5 and then a rest, after the rest I could not do another, I have no idea why I was so weak on this today. I didn't even really feel it in my chest or anywhere really, I have no idea how. I think on the db's it takes too much out of me, especially with the low energy I have right now to throw the db's back up for another set. Also, I think a better warmup might help, when I was doing all my other routines and making gains, I would do double the warm up sets and get much better results. Of all my exercises done while on this program, bench has provided the least amount of games.

    Shoulder Width chins
    Finally got some chalk so I could get a good grip
    bwx11, rest at 8 and 10 PR but not by much

    DB Shoulder Press
    Here is where I ran into tons of problems.
    65x2, I've done way more than this before, but I could barely even get 2 reps out and I felt a pinching in my right shoulder again. Shoulder presses besides Arnolds do not seem to like me and I don't know why, my shoulder does not bug me when I bench at all. I'm thinking of dropping vertical pressing movements like this or going light and doing high reps and TUT until it feels better. My shoulders do not need more development, once I post pics most people will understand where I am coming from on this one.

    BB rows
    225x13, rest at 6 and 10 PR I think this is such a good pr because some dude let me borrow his straps, which really helped, I felt the movement a lot more in my bi's with the wraps and obviously was able to lift a ton more. I should probably get some pretty soon here.

    Close Grip Bench
    160x11 pause at 8 and 10 PR I did these pl style with a big arch and lots of leg drive and it helped alot, I was able to explode on them so much more

    Decline situps

    All stretches done to 60, did tri's to 90 though. I'm having a hard time with the chest stretch because I get a bi cramp when doing it.

    Maybe carbing down that much the day before is screwing up my big lifts.

    So far this type of routine has helped my accessory movements alot, but my compounds has not gone up. If that continues maybe I should use straight sets for them.

    Even though I got 8 hours of sleep I felt drained all day today, not sure why. That could have screwed things up a lot.

    Lean ness is coming slowly, stomach area is giving me the most trouble but that was kind of expected. When I do the most muscular in the mirror the difference is like night and day, the lean ness looks like glenns av, but not as dry and no veins.

    I might possibly keep high days at 250 and see if it makes a difference after this week at 200.

  5. Leg day today.
    Since my squats are giving me **** I decided to change the movement for a while. I haven't rotated them out since early March so it's about time.

    "Power Squat" machine
    Kinda like a hack squat I dunno, I chose it because of the wide platform and it allows me to really sit back. The only downside was that I had no idea how much weight to use.
    1 plate per sidex10
    2 plates per sidex10
    3 plates per sidex5
    4 plates per sidex5
    5 plates per sidex9 <-Work set. I was aiming for 5 reps, so I think next time I will do 6 per side. Honestly even after all the previous sets I was not fatigued at all. I do not think I was properly warming up before.

    Romanian Deadlifts
    225x9 PR

    EZ barl curls
    105x8, rest at 5PR followed by a widowmaker set of alternating dumbell curls 25x20

    Seated Calf Raises
    CRAMP, horrible, horrible cramp
    2 plates+25x10 then cramp and I had to dump it. I don't know what was up, this isn't really heavy weight for me

    Trap bar shrugs
    235x8 Then hand cramp. Put it down and did another 8 before yet another cramp. I do not know what was up with the cramping today, it sucked and I know I could've done way more on the last two things if it hadn't happened.

    Hanging pikes
    These are somehow really hard for me

    Overall wasn't too bad of a workout minus the cramps.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by ktw
    Hanging pikes
    These are somehow really hard for me

    Overall wasn't too bad of a workout minus the cramps.
    Is this the thing where you hang in the stirrups and Ubi spanks your ass...uhhh, I mean you kick your legs up above your head, maintaining relatively straight knees. If so, these busted my ass when I first started them. I could barely get 5 or 6. Now I'm getting up to 15 or so before a rest pause. Keep doing them. Very effective :bruce1:

  7. Yah they suck pretty bad but my abs were aching like crazy after.

  8. do Janda situps, bet you can't do 10 with your legs remotely close to your body.

  9. how do you do them, i'll try anything hard like that

  10. Lie back like a regular situp, with knees somewhat bent and feet down on the ground. Push your feet into the ground, then come up into a crunch, briefly pause, then from the crunched position, sit into a full sit up.

    If you do it right I doubt you will get more than six or seven even with your knees only slightly bent and heels on the ground.

  11. Friday was my other upper day for the week. Went alright

    Hammer Strength Incline
    2plates (per side that is)x3
    2plates+10+5 (210 lbs total+weight of machine)x8, pauses at 5 and 7PR

    Super wide grip pulldowns
    180x9, pauses at 5 and 7PR

    Shoulders are still giving me a **** ton of trouble. On the Arnolds the right one kept pinching at the bottom so I switched to doing parallel grip presses but when I went heavy my right shoulder completely gave out and I do not know why. Since I did not get a very heavy set in I decided to do higher rep set followed by some high rep rotator cuff movements since maybe that could be a problem. Hopefully it's better next week.

    Close grip low rows
    190x9, pauses at 5 and 8PR

    Skull Crushers
    90x11, pause at 6 and 9PR

    Although I like dips better for my tri's, I do not want to do a movement that has heavy shoulder involvement if I do not have to so until my shouler problem feels better then I will be doing skull crushers instead. I think this is my final template for both upper and lower days, I think everything is where it needs to be and I'm finally working within the rep ranges I want to.

    Upping Albuterol to 16mgs a day, I can take it right before bed now and feel nothing. Started 50mg benadryl at nights, should I go higher than that?

    Have 2 more weeks on this mega dosed NHA stack so I'm going to try to go as heavy as possible during this period. I find this hard because my strength is going up so much between workouts that I can never predict what weights I will do the next time around. Upped the Rebound to 2 caps a day to combat bloat which I was getting a little.

    Upping cardio time a little bit.

    Started 200mg caffiene a day.

    After the albuterol is done I will take a week off of any stims and then run one of the venoms probably if I need to.

    Weight is at a steady 199, can't seem to get it to go down no matter how many grams of carbs i drop. This is the reason for upping cardio time.

    First cheat day was yesterday because I was in NYC all day but I still managed to hit my BMR for sure and was walking all day so I'm not worried about the fat gains from it.

    Adding more veggies after workout and am going to remove some carbs from my pre wo meals. I feel I can cut more since I keep making huge pr's on almost everything so I might as well cut as much as possible while I do not have to worry about decreases in strength or a hugely catabolic environment.

    My balls were sore last night, could this be the ActivaTe maybe shutting me down?

  12. Also, I think after the NHA stack is over I will run Lean Xtreme and possibly melting point.

  13. Just updating again on my plans for this routine and the future.

    I'm going to stick with the DC training until I leave my internship and go back home and have more time to train. I have contacted a p'lifting gym in my area and if nothing goes drastically wrong, I will be lifting there starting in early august probably.

    Overall I've pushed some good weights with this program, so the strength aspect is nice, but I think if I had a normal schedule and was not cutting weight I would not use it. I think the low volume helps while trying to train hard in a deficit, but at the same time I feel like I get way more out of the stretches than I do out of just one heavy work set. I just came from a 5x5 and have been doing plifting routines kinda for a while and I feel like I get more out of my workouts doing those. I also feel that if I had an unlimited schedule while dropping bodyfat I would probably do a westside program with low volume just so I could do both heavy compound lifts and other lifts that target individual groups so i get more of a toning effect. I might continue my cutting for three weeks after I move back with that type of program and see how it goes. I do not think I will try it again in the future unless it fits my schedule. I will use some of the knowledge I have gained about myself and I like that I tried it and know how I respond to it. I think I can heal a lot faster than DC says most people can with the 3 day a week, but work prohibits me from adding a 4th. **** I could easily do a 3rd upper body day and probably be fine. I will probably use the stretches in the future, I feel those are positive in terms of developing isometric strength and fiber elongation and also offer a hypertrophy benefit while working with heavier weight. I also like doing the widowmakers after big compound lifts, like lets say doing rows and then doing a 20 rep light set of bicep curls on the last set as a post compound isolation movement. I think somehow if my progress stalls I will add these later down the line.

    For now I will wait to see what people at that gym do and go from there. They have a pretty good reputation, the best in the state for sure and have been at it for 40 years now so I'm sure they have a lot of knowledge I do not and know a lot about program setup and lifting routines. Hopefully its not just a bunch of roid monkeys that have no idea whats up. That would suck.

    Ultimately I would like to use a westside template because I feel that it offers versatility that other programs do not. It allows me to train my weak areas hard while training my strong ones at maintainence. The only problem is that I do not have the experience to setup a good routine, maybe Nick W can chime in on this since he trains there.

    Anyways, working out tuesday because i have a lame ass event to go to tomorrow night.

  14. K today was an upper day

    Did more warm up sets for bench, did not help.

    can not get past 6 reps on this. Also, the stretch hurts my right shoulder and upper bi so much that i can barely move it after, this is the shoulder that has been hurting during all my shoulder movements lately. Either I am benching with my elbows way too flared or something is wrong because I can not seem to make any progress on this lift no matter how hard i try or what i do, while every other group gets stronger and stronger. Maybe I should rotate the movement out?

    Had no chalk or straps today so these were tougher
    bwx11, pause at 6 and 10. I think not having chalk made a difference, the bar has almost no knurling and is slippery as hell, once I use straps I guarantee I will be able to beat my old PR

    Hammer strength shoulder press
    Finally something that does not hurt my right shoulder like hell. I think whatever hand position it uses really works well because I got a great shoulder workout today.
    Platex16 (everything is per side)
    2 platesx6, rest at 5, failed on 7 so I left it at that. Guess it's a pr but ive never used this machine before.

    Bent Over BB rows
    230x10, pause at 5 and 9. PR Form deteriorated at 10 so I stopped. I think if had my chalk and straps like normal the rep number would have been a whole lot higher.

    Close Grip Bench
    165x9, pause at 6, could not do a 10th so I left it at that PR

    Decline sit ups supersetted with ball crunches
    Did the same weight as last time.

    Then for the horrible part

    I usually use malto in my pwo. Well lately I've felt semi dizzy after and not too great, but today was awful. After my post pwo meal, I got super light headed and dizzy and felt disconnected. My heart was beating ridiculously fast and I felt like it was hard to stay awake or stand up. It felt like I had just taken Shrooms and was about to starting seeing crazy things. Guarantee the malto is contributing to this hypoglycemic feeling so that is gone. I will be using ground up old fashioned oats now. Also, no more carbs in the during workout Xtend concoction and I will put a few more carbs in my pre workout, about 10 grams or so maybe. I do not want to use any malto at all for a while and see what happens.

    Should be getting a copy of the Cut Diet book from the guys over at Scivation so I might check that out and follow it a little bit if possible and I might try their PWO methodology if the oat concoction ceases to work.

  15. Today I felt like ****, didn't get much sleep last night and had another 5 hour hearing so I was drained by the time I got to the gym, a whole Redline couldn't wake me up.

    EZ bar curls
    some warms ups
    110x5, rest, then 2 more singles

    Power Squat machine
    Bunch of warm ups, felt like ****, only got 50 more lbs than last week, so 5 plates+ a 25 per side, should have been higher, really pissed, got 6 reps of that.

    At this point my whole posterior and back was giving me **** and I felt dead. I called it a day and headed home.

    I tried to do the pwo stuff i read in derek's contest prep section, it didnt really work that well, i look really fat and feel super sore, where I usually don't. I'm just gunna do oats in my pwo from now on.

    Somehow my tris are getting sore today but were not the other day. After I was done I put super light weight on the bench bar and experimented with different positions and stuff, which shouldn't have done anything because it was so light.

    I'll see how I'm doing tomorrow, I feel like ****, look horrible and am not happy about this work out.

  16. Just updating for anyone who follows this thing.

    Today got off work late and had a reception to go to, then got locked out for 4 hours, pretty lame, had to miss my trip to the gym. I will be there bright and early tomorrow though to do upper and the stuff i didnt do for legs the other day. My sessions don't usually go very long, especially if I take any sort of stim before, so I shouldn't have to worry about catabolism. Gunna go on a long walk tonight at a really fast pace, love the albuterol for that.

    Been thinking a lot about benching grip lately. I feel the most in my chest when I do not flare and come down above the nipples, strength wise I lift the most at the nipples exactly. I was messing around the other day with fairly light weight and it seemed easier to tuck hard and come to nipple level with a huge arch than to go to sternum level. I am trying to figure out a way to hit my chest hard while still lifting as heavy of a weight as possible so when I pick up flat bench again next week I'm pressing a good amount. I'm rotating out DB benches just because I'm not making much progress with them so I think it's time for a movement switch. Also I want to see how well this activaTe really helps my main lifts even on a deficit.

    Also I found this really weird bar we have thats like semi suspended and electronically locks itself when you let go, but has a super wide base so I'm thinking of using this thing for squats. I never gave it more than one look till yesterday but it looks like itd work just like a monolift, kinda pissed I didn't find it sooner.

    Somehow nowhere in DC sells straps, so that sucks because i would really like to use them in my last 2 weeks on. When I go off I think I might pick up some Venom and just stick with the alb till that's done. Once that is done it will be a couple weeks off from the activaTe just lifting naturally and then hopefully I'll be happy enough with my comp. at that point to lean bulk again.

  17. Alright, had a decent workout today.

    Hammer incline (weight per side)
    2 platesx5
    2 plates+20 lbsx10 (pause at 6 and 4) PR

    Ultra wide grip pulldowns
    190x12 (pause at 7 and 10)PR

    Strive shoulder press
    Used it because I wanted to do something that would be easier on my aching right shoulder.
    180x10, fairly slow pace, really focused on coming down nice and slow

    Close grip rows
    197.5x12 (pause at 6 and 9) PR

    Pressdowns with V shaped bar
    (all the flat benches were taken at this point)
    80x15 (pause at 8 and 13) PR

    Then I did the Romanian Deads and shrugs i didn't do the other day

    R. Deads
    245x14 (pause at 8 and 11)PR

    BB shrugs
    Added a 5 second pause at the top just for the hell of it.
    225x17 (pause at 8 and 13)PR

    Abs as usual.

    Also adding Lean Xtreme to my plan and I picked up some AMP for after the Alb. is done.

    Weight today was a good 196, no bloat after pwo though.

  18. Alright next week is my last week on activaTe, so I am going to try and go heavy on all my compound lifts and see what numbers I can get. I will try and do regular bb benches provided my shoulders aren't hurting during the warm up. After next week I will be doing a slightly different program based on what I know about myself so far and what I have learned from trying the DC training. I haven't set it up yet exactly but I do know a few things about it so far-

    Will use rest pause for heavy back movements (both planes).
    Will have one lower intensity, high volume day comprised of supersets and giant sets.
    Squat and squat type movements will done in sets of 5's with a lot of warm ups.
    Tricep training will be rest paused on anything compound.
    Cardio will be fairly low intensity
    Carbs will be dropped.
    Widowmaker type dropsets will be employed on my bi's after doing heavy rows and on chest work.
    Will follow a modified version of Dave Tate's workout he is doing for dropping weight. I am fairly sure I will do slightly less movements than he lists for his sets and a slightly different setup.
    I am going to do antagonistic muscle groups together and am going to listen to how my body responds and go from there.
    I will still use agressive stretching on certain exercises, ones that do not stress other joints.
    First and foremost I am going to listen to how my body responds to the training on a week to week basis and go from there. I will adjust volume according to my level of carbs and feeling.
    The goal of all this is to do all types of training for each group and to work on lagging areas as I approach the next, and final, 4 weeks of my cut. This is more of a bb'er approach to this, but whatever.

    Welcome to EliteFTS.com

    Link to somewhat of what I will be doing.

  19. K, I lifted today because my gym is closing early tomorrow, not my first choice, but hell, I didn't wanna wait till Wednesday to lift again. Do not think my tri's had enough time fo fully recover, as my right tri became very sore, almost crampy, after my last set.

    BB Bench
    Focused a lot on form, pl'ing form that is, really controlling the motion and focusing on the movement.
    Some warm ups
    195x6 (PR by 1 rep, think I would have had 1 or 2 more had my tri's not been cramping at this point).
    Downset, 175x10

    BB rows
    Lower back was sore from the RDL's the other day, again I did not want to lift today but I really had no choice in the matter.
    Some warmups
    230x15, pause at 10PR
    Think if I had been able to bend over as much as I normally do this number would have been lower, but I can't complain.

    Hammer Shoulder press
    some warmups
    Same weight as last week, 2 plates per sidex6 PR

    Rear Delt flies
    Just for light assistance

    Hanging pikes
    3 setsx max reps
    supersetted w/
    Eagle crunches
    3 sets w/35 lb plate on chest, 10 reps.

    Went all by feel today, did what I origonally aimed to do. For sets I do not do rest/pause for I am planning on doing 2 sets at ~80% or higher, not trying to cash out my CNS, just trying to get some heavy lifting in on this day.

    Next day will be moderate intensity, moderate volume and happens to be a leg day, so I will work in the 8 to 10 rep range and will finally be wide stance squatting again.

  20. Mod, this log was spost to be in the powerlifting section, I do not know why it is here, can it be switched over?

  21. Leg day today.
    Decided at work to stick the DC program out till the end of this week at least, I might not drop it after all, I really just do not have the time to sit down and write out some elaborate scheme. I do know my next program will be an old Westside Template I made in February.

    Anyways, was a very, very low day for me today in terms of carbs. Had 14g from old fashioned oats, and then the boss-man took us out for lunch, but to a burger joint. I ate the bun, which was most likely 18 to 20 at most (small bun, huge burger) and was worried about eating white bread, but it didn't really matter in the end. Other than that my only other carbs have been from my pwo, which were old fashioned oats, had about 36 grams from that.

    So what was the result? Well let's look at my lifts.

    Box squats, 1 inch below parallel
    295xmiss (set up really weird and missed the box, came down to rock bottom, ass was literally touching the ground).
    Reset the bar
    315x7 PR Never done this much weight below parallel before, so I was happy and did another set.
    315x7 again, grinded out the last one, but it was there.
    My new strategy on squats is to take 2-3 weeks off the lift when my 5rm tops out, doing so got me 2 extra reps the first day back, not too shabby on a sub 75 gram day.

    Romanian Deads
    265x11, pause at 8 PR Huge PR on this one.

    EZ bar curls.
    some warmups, forgot the weights, was just grabbing the bars off the rack and trying to get a good warmup.
    Ended up with 110
    110x14, pauses at 6 and 9 PR Another big PR for me.

    Barbell shrugs
    135xway too easy so I just racked it.
    295x16, pauses at 8 and 13PR Enormous PR, I believe 70 lbs for more reps than I did last time I did them with a BB

    Decline ABs
    Moved the bench angle way up, about 45 degrees.
    bw+35lbsx12, then a rest and a few more reps I didn't count because I was too busy thinking of how much I wanted to barf

    Forgot the weight numbers, Did a heavy set followed by a few drop sets.

    All stretches done for 60 seconds like normal except for the bi one, which was done for 90.

    I also talked to my dad a few days ago about how he used to diet when he cycled professionally. He told me he could eat about 1600 kcals, with only veggies and some oatmeal for carbs, but keep everything else high, and manage to lose weight, then plateau and improve performance and composition at that weight, maybe that's the way it's working for me, I don't know. I know this program is designed to make PR's all the time, but I'm not sure how common it is to get these sorts of results while on less than 50% of my normal intake. It could be very possible that I have part of his endomorphic body type, maybe I actually need less carbs than I was consuming even to bulk. I'm going to stay with this method for the rest of my cut, refeeds will be on Saturdays. Did I mention I got these results with no more NHA stack?

    Weight was 194 today, abs are starting to make an appearance, arms are leaner, chest is the same, legs are the same, calves are looking leaner and my back is definately a lot leaner.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by ktw
    Mod, this log was spost to be in the powerlifting section, I do not know why it is here, can it be switched over?

  23. What happened to all of the other logs that were in this forum?

  24. with proper training and diet you should be able to make good progress while leaning out to ~10-11%.

  25. Ya I don't think that will be too much of a problem, I have 3 to 4 weeks to go, I'm leaning up nicely now and strength isn't an issue with low carbs so I'm not worried about muscle loss.


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