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    Non-methyls just means you don't have the liver distress, but still can cause shutdown so yes a mild PCT but no need for Cycle Support/Assist
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    I have a full bottle of Novadex XT, some Mass FX, some 6OXO, and some Blue-Up. Could I use a little of each, or just do the Novadex XT w/6OXO
    I read a log where a guy used Tribulus for PCT, any opinions on that?

    just a rough idea...
    Day 1-40: 11 OXO 1 capsule 3 times per day with meals
    Day 41-60: 6-OXO 3 capsules 2 times per day with breakfast and dinner
    Furaguno 100/100/100/100 ?
    (1 box=90 caps/ 33mg each, 3x day-morning, lunch, dinner)

    If Im doing the math correctly...thats around a 10-11 weeks cut, I was hoping for something shorter...could I do the 11OXO for 3-4 weeks, depending on how I feel, then 2-3 weeks of my PCT, then run out the Furaguno until Im happy?
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    okay now I know some guys might get mad at this....but I read up on alot of 11OXO reviews and logs, every one said they didn't have noticeable gains until the dosage was raised, and they only noticed fat loss within the first week taking 11OXO, so Im thinking, should I even use it? Im just trying to think smart...
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    this one guy said he lost 20 lbs, but he dosed 11OXO at 300 mg which isnt too high (3x a day=225mg) but he did it for 6 weeks
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    Dude, first you say gains... then you say fat loss...

    Make up your mind fool.

    There are better compounds for lean mass and cutting, but you should already know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    Dude, first you say gains... then you say fat loss...

    Make up your mind fool.

    There are better compounds for lean mass and cutting, but you should already know that.
    my bad, i didnt mean to say gains, they only noticed a change in feeling, which therefore they felt stronger, but only until they increased the dosage...and only fat loss in the first week, which was minimal, and stopped after the first week. I know there are better compounds, Im only interested in fat loss, NOT gaining any more mass, thats why I may just run the Furaguno solo....

    people claimed that the high dosage+length of 11OXO helped them gain some strength, Im not interested in a long drawn out cycle...4-6 weeks of Furaguno to get cut, thats all....I think I just answered my questions
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    Tom. Dude. Adrenosterone (11oxo) is a cortisol controller. It will have subtle recomp-effects, but nothing too incredibly noticiable. I think it would be fine to run alongside the feraguno.

    Run the 11oxo, the Feraguno, and a fat burner. You will be straight. Mild PCT... 6oxo and tribulus would be perfect.

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    GMG, you and Timber always know how to get me in line haha. BUT, as you know I have a question...how will I time it? Ive read logs where guys have done Furaguno first, some have done it last..???

    Im thinking for me...
    11OXO: 3/3/3/3/3/3 (may raise it, depending on how I feel and look)
    Furaguno:0/100/100/100/100/100
    Lipo6X: 4x day...2 a.m. 2-6 hours later
    6OXO: 0/0/0/0/0/0/6/6/6
    Tribulus or Novadex XT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    GMG, you and Timber always know how to get me in line haha. BUT, as you know I have a question...how will I time it? Ive read logs where guys have done Furaguno first, some have done it last..???

    Im thinking for me...
    11OXO: 3/3/3/3/3/3 (may raise it, depending on how I feel and look)
    Furaguno:0/100/100/100/100/100
    Lipo6X: 4x day...2 a.m. 2-6 hours later
    6OXO: 0/0/0/0/0/0/6/6/6
    Tribulus or Novadex XT?
    Tribulus. Novadex is ATD. You have the AI covered with 6oxo. Ramp the oxo down. 600/500/400 or something like that.

    Lipo 6x at 2am is probably bad for your sleep habits. How about 7AM (or when you wake up) and 2PMish.
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    lol no I meant 2 a.m.(not 2 at 2 in the morning but 2 when I wake up 8-9 a.m.) sorry. I have to get another bottle of 6OXO...Im trying to not have to spend money....does the timing of the Furaguno with the 11OXO look good?
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    I say scrap all these nasty designer products! They will make you feel like arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cub View Post
    I say scrap all these nasty designer products! They will make you feel like arse.
    As long as it makes me feel like a bigger arse than I was before... then all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    As long as it makes me feel like a bigger arse than I was before... then all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cub View Post
    I say scrap all these nasty designer products! They will make you feel like arse.
    didn't you ask me about where to get the feraguno like a few days ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    didn't you ask me about where to get the feraguno like a few days ago?
    Hi hater.

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    I might start the 11OXO tomorrow, just 3x a day...what does anyone think of me using the Novadex XT & Tribulus instead of 6OXO and Tribulus? does 6OXO serve a job nothing else can perform?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    I might start the 11OXO tomorrow, just 3x a day...what does anyone think of me using the Novadex XT & Tribulus instead of 6OXO and Tribulus? does 6OXO serve a job nothing else can perform?
    Damnit man... GMG already told you.

    Trib and XT are both test boosters... no need to run both. XT has ATD for an AI however - much like oxo - just different compound... Use XT alone, or ox and trib... period.
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    Actually XT is just an aromatase inhibitor. It really isn't like Trib, it is more like 6oxo. Use novedex XT instead of 6oxo if you want to.
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    I am joining this. A tad confused on where you are going, but when you figure it out I am sure it is going to be a great combo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Actually XT is just an aromatase inhibitor. It really isn't like Trib, it is more like 6oxo. Use novedex XT instead of 6oxo if you want to.
    Right, you can use it instead of 6oxo, but I don't think you'll need a separate test booster, especially since you're trying to save money.

    From experience, XT is pretty strong. I loved it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Actually XT is just an aromatase inhibitor. It really isn't like Trib, it is more like 6oxo. Use novedex XT instead of 6oxo if you want to.
    yes, T-Lake, Im trying to save money, I only have 7 caps of 6OXO left but a full bottle of XT. if XT and 6OXO are like the same thing then should I still do Trib?
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    I might start this tomorrow....I have everything (if its cool to use Novadex XT instead of 6OXO) the furaguno is in the mail BTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    didn't you ask me about where to get the feraguno like a few days ago?
    Research! Clearly I've been caught red handed
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    yes, T-Lake, Im trying to save money, I only have 7 caps of 6OXO left but a full bottle of XT. if XT and 6OXO are like the same thing then should I still do Trib?
    Oh, dude... definitely don't go out any BUY 6-oxo. Use the XT and Trib... might be a bit of overlap, but if you already have it - by all means.

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    im starting the cycle today, just took Lipo6X...going to eat in about 30 min, then take 1 dose of 11OXO, Ill have 1 11OXO after my mid-day meal and dinner. Ill take my Lipo6X around 5. Might workout today too, not sure. and im thinking about this...
    weeks 1-6: 11OXO-may raise dose
    weeks 3-7: Furaguno-not sure abut dose yet
    weeks 8-11: PCT (6OXO & Novadex XT)

    macros for diet will be 3000-3500 cals, 200-300 g protein, 100-150 carbs, 15-30 g fat (depends on how low I go on carbs)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    im starting the cycle today, just took Lipo6X...going to eat in about 30 min, then take 1 dose of 11OXO, Ill have 1 11OXO after my mid-day meal and dinner. Ill take my Lipo6X around 5. Might workout today too, not sure. and im thinking about this...
    weeks 1-6: 11OXO-may raise dose
    weeks 3-7: Furaguno-not sure abut dose yet
    weeks 8-11: PCT (6OXO & Novadex XT)

    macros for diet will be 3000-3500 cals, 200-300 g protein, 100-150 carbs, 15-30 g fat (depends on how low I go on carbs)
    Macros look good, aside from the protein. You'll want that at at least 250 during a cut - not 200 on the low end.

    By the way:
    300g Protein = 1200 cal
    150g Carbs = 600 cal
    30g Fat = 270 cal

    Total of 2070 calories... Did you sleep through math class in high school?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    Macros look good, aside from the protein. You'll want that at at least 250 during a cut - not 200 on the low end.

    By the way:
    300g Protein = 1200 cal
    150g Carbs = 600 cal
    30g Fat = 270 cal

    Total of 2070 calories... Did you sleep through math class in high school?
    haha OH T-Lake, you always get me. it seemed a little low, cant take me too many carbs, or can I? maybe more fat...
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    I don't really think 6oxo and ATD (novedex XT) should be ran together in PCT. i cant be bothered looking it up, TG would know the answer, but i think your libido wil be shot to pieces.
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    what about 6 OXO and Tribulus?
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    I wish something would shoot my libido. Never had a problem with either. Just run the XT man, save the trib.
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    so why did Australian say not to use the XT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    so why did Australian say not to use the XT?
    He didn't. He said not to stack the 6oxo and XT, which you aren't anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    He didn't. He said not to stack the 6oxo and XT, which you aren't anyway.
    I thought I was, opps, so then what do you suggest I do?

    And my birthday is next weekend. Will be okay for me to have a few drinks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    I thought I was, opps, so then what do you suggest I do?

    And my birthday is next weekend. Will be okay for me to have a few drinks?
    I could have sworn you were going to run either with the Trib, but since you had XT already - you chose that. I think I told you 7 or 8 times not to bother buying the 6oxo.

    Drinking... Yes, you actually can. But stick to 3 to 4 drinks, and drink a water in between. Its not going to help you, but its not going to kill you either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    I could have sworn you were going to run either with the Trib, but since you had XT already - you chose that. I think I told you 7 or 8 times not to bother buying the 6oxo.

    Drinking... Yes, you actually can. But stick to 3 to 4 drinks, and drink a water in between. Its not going to help you, but its not going to kill you either.
    then ill stick to XT, I prob forgot and didn't mean to write it up as I would be taking both. I just do not know how to dose the XT because I haven't found anyone else taking or have I used it. Im going to try to not drink but Ill keep it to one or two :bruce2:
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    then ill stick to XT, I prob forgot and didn't mean to write it up as I would be taking both. I just do not know how to dose the XT because I haven't found anyone else taking or have I used it. Im going to try to not drink but Ill keep it to one or two :bruce2:
    2 caps a night till the bottle is gone.
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    Subbing in...Is it me or does KG seem to complicate sh/t too much? Russian said to run the 11OXO...I would deffinitely take his opinion to heart. Throw in the Recreate(2/2) and see where things go. Keep it simple KG...you are in school and don't need to complicate things. My 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Subbing in...Is it me or does KG seem to complicate sh/t too much? Russian said to run the 11OXO...I would deffinitely take his opinion to heart. Throw in the Recreate(2/2) and see where things go. Keep it simple KG...you are in school and don't need to complicate things. My 2 cents.
    We've been here before too... He doesn't have 6oxo... He has XT... he has no money... I said to run the XT and it'll be just fine. oxo and trib would be fine too.

    And yes, he complicates sh*t way too much. I can't believe we are still f*cking talking about this.
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    Just put all of your shit in a blender and chug it. I'm sure something will happen.
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    Just for the record, I think Tom should just be using one of these for his cut.

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    Only thing is... He'd be like:
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