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Old 04-23-2008, 08:01 PM   #1
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Best way to make stubborn abs show?

Im 37, been working out for several years, have a lean defined build except for my abs. Im 5'10, 150, but I cant stand my stomach and cannot get it defined. Rest of my body is defined and I feel like my stomach wont get defined and show abs. So im trying to cut now by following a really strict diet and taking 3grams CLA/daily and a thermogen similar to Hydroxycut, plus 3 protein shakes a day, flax seed oil , Also using Dymatize XPAND for my workouts

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First--5 egg whites, 3 oz turkey breast, 2 whole grain rice cakes w/Natural PB, 1/3 cup oatmeal
Second--protein shake with water/skim few strawberries, flax seed oil

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Third--4ozchixbreast, 1 cup vegetables. Myoplex shake, apple
Fourth--4oz chixbreast, i cup vegetables, rice cake w/nat PB
5ith--4 oz chixbreast, 1 cup vegetables, whole grain rice
6th--21 grams protien w/water and strawberries, flax seed, 5 eggwhites.

So you can see my diet is good.

What are the best supplements to cut, so i can see my abs?
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Old 04-24-2008, 02:20 AM   #2
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well you already are pretty lean.. you just need to go HEAVY on abs.
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You could try some napalm or similar topical fat loss product for spot reduction. You could similarly go the napalm+clen route although, I'd recommend that you thoroughly research it first.
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Spot reduction is BS! What does your abb workout look like? too many people trains abbs everyday thinking that will make them grow. They are just another muscle, you dont train your arms every day so why do it with the abbs. Do you also do squats, deads etc?
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Forgot to say I do light cardio (stationary bike) 3 times a week for 40mins.
As for my abs, I do them 2-3 times a week tops. Maybe Im not doing enough when i do them. Or maybe should do more weighted ab work? I usually do a few sets of ab crunches 20 a piece, 40 legs lifts, once a week I do cable pull down, usually 2 sets of 30 at a high weight...should i be doing more?

Anyone know anything about CLA, Hydroxy cut, that I just started? What about Pyruvate, does that help?
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Dragon flags really help, my abs are coming in since I've used them. The Napalm is helping me as is the RPM/DCP/ Neovar combo I'm on.



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Dude, ****. At 5'10 150 pounds your abs aren't showing because you don't have any. You are already lean enough, you simply don't have the mass in that area. Do weighted ab exercises. I mean WEIGHTED. Not just a ****in 8lb ball. Do heavy weighted cable crunches or decline situps with a 45# plate held behind your head.

Deadlift and squat would also help......alot.



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i concur w/rugger.
at 150lbs you need more muscle mass to develop greater definition.
i don't see cutting at your current state helping.
maybe focus on a long, slow, lean bulk that incorporates heavy deads, squats and even some olympic lifts.
those big lifts along with a clean diet will build some fine abs by themselves.



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Dude, ****. At 5'10 150 pounds your abs aren't showing because you don't have any. You are already lean enough, you simply don't have the mass in that area. Do weighted ab exercises. I mean WEIGHTED. Not just a ****in 8lb ball. Do heavy weighted cable crunches or decline situps with a 45# plate held behind your head.

Deadlift and squat would also help......alot.
Werd..

I don't get why people train heavy and hard on every body part, but abs is always some high rep, unweighted, routine.

Things like decline sit ups with a plate/DB on ur chest, Heavy cable crunches, and heavy counpound lifts like mentioned by HANK.
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Great Thanks for all the advice guys. Will do!!!!!
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Don't forget to hit them obliques either.
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You could try some napalm or similar topical fat loss product for spot reduction. You could similarly go the napalm+clen route although, I'd recommend that you thoroughly research it first.

Being so lean you represent the ideal body-type for Napalm or topical fat loss solutions. It will help you spare muscle by enhancing the fat loss locally (see: spot of application).



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Also, any thoughts on supplements for me building muscle???
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Any whats the best way to get rid of that last layer of sub-cutaneous fat around the abs/waist?
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get some naplam and if you want to keep your waist smaller don't go too heavy on the weighted ab work imo
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So what is napalm? and why not the weighted ab work?
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you can use weighted if you want. I just said if you want to keep your waist smaller then don't use heavy weights.you can go heavy but not heavy enough to aleast get some higher reps(btween 12-20) Napalm is on nutraplanet.
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