Fat loss after Holidays - 1st approach to Intermittent Fasting

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post

    Have you tried Almond milk? I found that to be a very good and tasty (vanilla flavor unsweetened is delicious with cookies and cream whey) replacement for the milk with no sugar, no carbs and some very good fats.
    Agreed, the unsweetened vanilla is phenomenal.
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  2. day 3. yet some more weight loss (not as dramatic as yesterday's tho) and I am not the most scrupolous person ever. let's hope it continues.
    i still don't understand why the 16hr fasting should make one more receptive to food in a good way tho.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Ansem View Post
    day 3. yet some more weight loss (not as dramatic as yesterday's tho) and I am not the most scrupolous person ever. let's hope it continues.
    i still don't understand why the 16hr fasting should make one more receptive to food in a good way tho.
    Did u read the jb article I posted?
  4. Question


    missed it. will read it now.

    EDIT: good read. but it does not deal with an evening training.
    and it seems a bit too radical about marco partitioning.
    also, why people who are not in good shape won't benefit from it? those with bf more than that percentage (I have not counted mine. but I am positve I am more than 15%).
    -actually, my bad. it's not "ineffective". it's supposed to be "harder".

    Intesting thing, the 100 push-ups before each meal twice per week. just how much before is not specified

    EDIT2: do you think alphamine would count as calories if taken during the fast (that is, on empty stomach at breakfast AND continuing to stay empty until the feeding phase begins)?
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Ansem View Post
    missed it. will read it now.

    EDIT: good read. but it does not deal with an evening training.
    and it seems a bit too radical about marco partitioning.
    also, why people who are not in good shape won't benefit from it? those with bf more than that percentage (I have not counted mine. but I am positve I am more than 15%).
    -actually, my bad. it's not "ineffective". it's supposed to be "harder".

    Intesting thing, the 100 push-ups before each meal twice per week. just how much before is not specified

    EDIT2: do you think alphamine would count as calories if taken during the fast (that is, on empty stomach at breakfast AND continuing to stay empty until the feeding phase begins)?
    Alphamine would be fine.... can u show us your macros and when your eating in reference to your training
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  6. day 4. back some 300g. must have made some mistake with carbs or fat.
    and tonight I am out for dinner. I have absolutely no idea how, without alphamine, I'll make enough "calorie buffer".
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  7. tell us what your eating and when
    tell us about how you training
    stop weighing yourself every day (your going to make yourself crazy). Weigh yourself once a week, on the same day, at roughly the same time....

  8. oh ok, my protocol is around 13,30-21-30 for eating hours (I train around 19), and everything else for fasting.

    I train 3/week with weights and whenever possible with cardio, like 2/week.
    weight training is "multifrequency", I don't know how to properly translate it in English. it's like 8 exercises per training day, covering the whole body (or almost).
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Ansem View Post
    oh ok, my protocol is around 13,30-21-30 for eating hours (I train around 19), and everything else for fasting.

    I train 3/week with weights and whenever possible with cardio, like 2/week.
    weight training is "multifrequency", I don't know how to properly translate it in English. it's like 8 exercises per training day, covering the whole body (or almost).
    this is helpful!
    don't worry about your translation - its all good

    now show us what your eating and when on training days vs non....

  10. so what I eat on training days (tuesday) - example
    1st meal: lentils with some low-fat cheese
    2nd meal: milk and coffee without sugar + 200kcal of carbs
    3rd meal: white fish + potaoes, some olive oil used and cayenna. very little salt.
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  11. sigh, fasting time today is going bonkers because I have friends who love late dinner AND chinese food.
    any suggestions?
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  12. Just go enjoy yourself socially with your friends. Don't over do it, try and keep it as clean as you can but enjoy your time with your friends. Extend your fast tomorrow, your fast doesn't have to be the same times every day. Its just recommended to get yourself on a schedule at a physiological level. For instance, normal fast:11-7/today you break fast at 10 pm, fast til 2 tomorrow to make up for the 3 hours. That's what's great about IF.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post
    Just go enjoy yourself socially with your friends. Don't over do it, try and keep it as clean as you can but enjoy your time with your friends. Extend your fast tomorrow, your fast doesn't have to be the same times every day. Its just recommended to get yourself on a schedule at a physiological level. For instance, normal fast:11-7/today you break fast at 10 pm, fast til 2 tomorrow to make up for the 3 hours. That's what's great about IF.
    agreed, plus start thinking about your calories on a weekly level too.... Helps with those binges...

    best thing i did during the holidays was work out on thanksgiving and new years mornings, i opened my fast with those big meals an hour after training and it was AMAZING!

  14. well, it could have been definitely worse. I luckily still feel full-ish so fasting today will possibly be easier
    this evening, after the workout, will eat some whole grain carbs.
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  15. another day of training. very little cardio but I did manage to fast up to 3pm. tomorrow is another night out so I'll try to contain myself a lot.
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  16. Just noticed this thread and scanned through. I started following longer fasting states about a year ago maainly due to too much flex in my work schedule it was difficult to have regular meal times. Fell back into it inadvertently come January. Subbed to learn and give feedback on what I've learned. It's an interesting concept all said and done. Not for everyone but certainly can be done with huge success after MUCH trial and error. Good luck. And don't worry if one day here and there you fall off from a lunch date or something... It's not that serious just don't make a habit.
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka

  17. I couldn't sleep last night, and by 3:00am I gave in and had a bowl of cinnamon life. 10 minutes later I passed out. Worth breaking my fast and diet for.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes View Post
    I couldn't sleep last night, and by 3:00am I gave in and had a bowl of cinnamon life. 10 minutes later I passed out. Worth breaking my fast and diet for.
    To me, this says your macros aren't in check. Shouldn't be waking up midsleep to eat. Lesson learned the hard way.

    -OS-Team AppNut
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka

  19. Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    To me, this says your macros aren't in check. Shouldn't be waking up midsleep to eat. Lesson learned the hard way.

    -OS-Team AppNut
    I agree and it may have been me dropping carbs lower. However I hadn't been able to sleep up to that point. So it wasn't waking from my sleep.

  20. lol I don0t understand. I think I eat a lot and the day after everything is good. another day I think I starve and the day after I weigh more.

    then again, the Leangains method could theoretically recomp without any change in weight, but I am not THAT blindly optimistic.
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  21. Well, 2 things you can do IMO. Eat the same diet consistantly, or weigh yourself less often; every week, once a month etc...

    I haven't weighed myself in over a year now. Was my 2012 resolution, and I renewed it for 2013. One of the best things I ever did for myself.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes View Post
    Well, 2 things you can do IMO. Eat the same diet consistantly, or weigh yourself less often; every week, once a month etc...

    I haven't weighed myself in over a year now. Was my 2012 resolution, and I renewed it for 2013. One of the best things I ever did for myself.
    what? why?
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  23. Because the scale messes with your head and body composition isn't as easy as looking at the number. Water weight fluctuates 5lbs in a given day. I don't know what I weigh right now... Somewhere mid 160s. Should be eating with consistently anyway. That's just how it works.

    Ape, its possible. Did you replace those calories with fats or protein? Also consider micronutrients you need. But your saying its been this way before. If it is diet related here's one way to try and figure it out: as soon as you wake up what's your instinctive go to food source? There's something in there you need and subjectively know it has
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Ansem View Post
    lol I don0t understand. I think I eat a lot and the day after everything is good. another day I think I starve and the day after I weigh more.

    then again, the Leangains method could theoretically recomp without any change in weight, but I am not THAT blindly optimistic.
    Weigh yourself once a week on the same day.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by huggy77 View Post
    Weigh yourself once a week on the same day.
    Same time.

    -OS-Team AppNut
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka
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