[mmowry]

Originally Posted by w3ss

I think, mostly dont checked their diet and training. AP is really that good , but if you correct your diet and training.

This is the very same reason people have poor gains off of designers also.Heck if people stay spot on with their macros/training and rest they wouldnt need to take 80% of the supps out there.Now that would be bad for the industry.

USP not bashin but speaking of being bad for the industry: weve not seen eye to eye on the designer thing (but there must have been a partial change of heart on your part if youve tried all 4 of the above designers) since you openly stated that designers would be the downfall of the industry (in an Epistane thread none the less) then a few months later you are endorsing Genera's Epi product come on now!

That being said I harbor no ill feelings I just have my doubts. So until I try it I cant believe its true but in the end I do hope that it is true.

[goslamacamel]

Is it just me or is anyone else thinking of MassFX when they hear Prime?

But then, if I listen to "better than epithio" I'm thinking something entirely unnatural, and certainly not intended for 21 or younger.

Either way, I can't honestly see truth in how Prime is being promoted.

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by mattikus

There are still alot of people that don't have anything good to say about Anabolic Pump.

A Generalized statement That holds true for every supplement on the market not sure why you specify these claims to USPlabs.

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by goslamacamel

Is it just me or is anyone else thinking of MassFX when they hear Prime?

But then, if I listen to "better than epithio" I'm thinking something entirely unnatural, and certainly not intended for 21 or younger.

Either way, I can't honestly see truth in how Prime is being promoted.

Iunderstand your stance as a 17 year influenced by board "experts" and the O my god it’s a steroid so I will gain 15lbs even if I just eat pickles and bread.

I've seen gains of 10lbs with a proper diet and Anabolic Pump on a regular basis.

I've seen gains of 10lbs and creatine monohydrate.

But if you think Steroids is the only "HARDCORE" route to take, you are sadly misguided.

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by mmowry

This is the very same reason people have poor gains off of designers also.Heck if people stay spot on with their macros/training and rest they wouldnt need to take 80% of the supps out there.Now that would be bad for the industry.

USP not bashin but speaking of being bad for the industry: weve not seen eye to eye on the designer thing (but there must have been a partial change of heart on your part if youve tried all 4 of the above designers) since you openly stated that designers would be the downfall of the industry (in an Epistane thread none the less) then a few months later you are endorsing Genera's Epi product come on now!

That being said I harbor no ill feelings I just have my doubts. So until I try it I cant believe its true but in the end I do hope that it is true.

Not asking anyone to believe me in this thread or am I trying to promote the product.

Once we release the product, we will establish the facts and the consumer can tell me to screw off or buy. Simple really.

We already beta tested this product. The testing began Feb 15 2008.

Super Cissus, PowerFULL, AP and every USPlabs release is always doubted and they always peform. A huge reason of our viral growth in the industy because the word of mouth marketing is moving fast.

[ReaperX]

Well, I'll have to see what happens.


The only one that caused me to gain more than what I normally do in one month are X-Factor and DTH.

DTH was just slightly above normal, and X-Factor was a few lbs more.


Everything else I've ever used have been ineffective.

[T-Bone]

Originally Posted by john123131

the original formula worked very well, only complaint is that I was a complete a$$hole on it. My girlfriend didnt like me alot at that time, i told her to avoid me until I was done with Prime..lol
thats actually dead serious, I did gain a few lbs through 1 bottle and a lil bit (3-4lbs) with the only side for me being agression/short tempered.

Yes but how old are you John?. Those results would be more impressive if the person taking the product was at least in their mid to late thirtys. Just like with the topical fat loss products I am not impressed by the 20 something year old that is 10% bodyfat and wants to get down to 8....Not really too impressive based on age and testosterone level for that particular age group.


With a fat loss product I want to see guy above 20% lose at least 20-25 pounds of fat.

With a "non-test booster" I wanna see a 35-40 year old gain mass, libido and energy like he was 18 again.

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by T-Bone

With a fat loss product I want to see guy above 20% lose at least 20-25 pounds of fat.
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The olders guys never want to change whats on the menu.

[MrBrightside]

I'll be watching for updates on this, I'm highly intrigued.

[whitedevil74]

Originally Posted by mmowry

No pct and no hormone fluxuations would be a dream.Heck I could buy 2X as much of this with the pct money Id save.

If this were possible the pharm industry would already be producing it. If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. I am not saying the product will not be decent, but this is not going to give steroid like gains with zero suppression or hormonal fluctuation. The best scientist in the world have been trying to find a formula like this to cure several muscle wasting diseases but USP labs has figured it out. I like USP products I use a few myself but the hype with this company is just insane.

[goslamacamel]

Originally Posted by USPLabs

Iunderstand your stance as a 17 year influenced by board "experts" and the O my god it’s a steroid so I will gain 15lbs even if I just eat pickles and bread.

I've seen gains of 10lbs with a proper diet and Anabolic Pump on a regular basis.

I've seen gains of 10lbs and creatine monohydrate.

But if you think Steroids is the only "HARDCORE" route to take, you are sadly misguided.

You're saying I think "O my god it's a steroid so I will gain 15lbs even if I just eat pickles and bread"?

If so, stop thinking with numbers and look at what I'm asking/saying.

I want to know if you would administer this product to your 18 year old son. If not, I know it's unnatural/hormonal and therefore, TO STAY AWAY FROM IT. Just like I stay away from all the designers. Problem is, I've had many friends ask me if they should try this certain supplement out because of the awesome gains reported. I have to explain to them that it's unnatural and is a mild steroid/pro-hormone, even though the company doesn't come right out and say it. What I'm saying is I'm sick of this kind of crap companies are doing and making steroids available to teens who don't know better, not to mention 20-30 year olds who don't know what a proper PCT is.

So if you will, answer the question. Would you give this product to your 18 year old son?

[strategicmove]

I am not sure I understand this "18 year old son" issue. There is hardly any supplement company that openly says their supplements are appropriate for 18 year-olds, or less-than-18-year olds. For liability reasons. Some supplement companies recommend 21 and above. That should not be the yardstick, in terms of whether the product is hormonal or non-hormonal. Besides, I fail to see the advantage USPLabs would have in claiming a product is natural, if in fact it is not! That would damage the credibility they have worked hard to earn.

[john123131]

Originally Posted by T-Bone

Yes but how old are you John?. Those results would be more impressive if the person taking the product was at least in their mid to late thirtys. Just like with the topical fat loss products I am not impressed by the 20 something year old that is 10% bodyfat and wants to get down to 8....Not really too impressive based on age and testosterone level for that particular age group.


With a fat loss product I want to see guy above 20% lose at least 20-25 pounds of fat.

With a "non-test booster" I wanna see a 35-40 year old gain mass, libido and energy like he was 18 again.

hey T-bone, im 25.

Your obviously entitled to your opinion, and I encourage people to be a skeptic of any supplement until they try it really. I do agree with your comment to some degree. Me losing 2 % body fat off a fat burner is not all that impressive because I dont have a high bf, im young, and little tweaks in my diet can cause a change in my physique. I do know my body well though, i didnt change anything in terms of massive increase in calories, or training during the testing.

Most people go to test a product, they clean up their diet, be strict with their training and are wow'd when they lose bf, or gain muscle. Its funny, but i really didnt change anything.