not to keep a dead thread going here but i just wanted to report some things i noticed after a week..i may start a log and update once or twice a week.. with Prime and Testopro ive noticed i have a LOT more energy..i dont sleep well or much and im usually beat or groggy in the morning- ive been pretty wide eyed the past 4-5 mornings..im getting hungry, like REALLY hungry which for me is rare..i mean, at my desk the other day i was so hungry all of the sudden, i hurt, lol. got a bit of the horn dog thing going on too..im hitting PR's pretty regular..if not by big margins, then by small ones, or in reps..i do have to get some cissus due to some crappy elbow pain but limited cash flow right now isnt going to allow that- bills and uncle sam are coming first. anyway, my dermacrine came yesterday and im going to add that to the mix..we'll see what happens, lol!