[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by Australian made

You have to be realistic USP. With your completely over the top marketing claims do you not think a lot of people are gonig to make accusations? PH killer, really, what were you expecting.

Yeah PH killer is not right so I'm now leaning towards the PH slayer or the PH destroyer.

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by Rough08

Lol at your original post..it sounds like your Lordship is at stake in the 1600s from Savages.

I call a spade a spade. You speak as you would act.

[treningsfrik75]

Im loving Prime so far, very impressed.
And I dont understand why this shouldnt be called a PH killer. you dont need to go off it and take PCT. A strong PH is better right when youre on, but what about the long run.
And what about side effects.

Will write a full review when I am done with my log at supplements review section.

This is day 16 and I am up 6,6lbs and my veins in my arm are popping out. put up a picture five min ago in my log
"prime and p-slin on dirty bulk"

And for the haters, yea I would love some free prime. but No way I`m selling it

[imprezivr6]

Originally Posted by treningsfrik75

This is day 16 and I am up 6,6lbs and my veins in my arm are popping out. put up a picture five min ago in my log
"prime and p-slin on dirty bulk"

This is from your log

Day 1

Weight 161,7lb starting weight 156,2 Up totally: 5,5

U were up 5.5lbs on the first day, which you yourself attribute to the increase in cals/water/glycogen.

It would make more sense for your "starting" weight to be after that initial increase.. Just a little less misleading to someone not following your log.

[VolcomX311]

awkward.....

[Australian made]

imprez 007

[poopypants]

Originally Posted by Iron Lungz

Of course. I was just making a generalized statement. I agree, the review that was posted the first day was very biased and had the premise of a bad apple.
I have several bottles, but I am running a sponsored log of STOKED! that starts tomorrow. I'm a simple supplement enthusiast that likes to run things alone to determine if it's worth its weight.
I would LOVE to read/follow a log that is precise and educational with pictures and numbers rather than the, "PRIME is THE BOMB," logs.
Hey Strategic, YOU NEED to run PRIME and log it!

Originally Posted by tattoopierced1

sure you are going to have the "fanboys" and haters of products, but I think there are a great number of us that are true to review a product.. I know for myself, if a product doesnt work for ME, I wont bash it, I will just state that it didnt work for myself.. I always try to give an honest review of any supplement I try. Prime just happens to live up to most of the hype to me. Mileage may vary for some.

Im actually just starting a rough log today, will be very simply notes on numbers feelings and pictures. The log will speak for itself.

Ive been taking nothing hormonal for 4 weeks now and even that was a 2 week run of 1.5mg of M-TRN to get me in shape quick before doing some time.... Im out now and ready to give prime a run.

I have been taking AP and P-slin as well and will continue that but those are more nutritional based then anything and shouldnt really abstract the results very much.

Hope this will be a good unbiased poit of reference others can use and will help put an end to the bickering one way or another.

be up tonight

-poops

[tattoopierced1]

Originally Posted by poopypants

Im actually just starting a rough log today, will be very simply notes on numbers feelings and pictures. The log will speak for itself.

Ive been taking nothing hormonal for 4 weeks now and even that was a 2 week run of 1.5mg of M-TRN to get me in shape quick before doing some time.... Im out now and ready to give prime a run.

I have been taking AP and P-slin as well and will continue that but those are more nutritional based then anything and shouldnt really abstract the results very much.

Hope this will be a good unbiased poit of reference others can use and will help put an end to the bickering one way or another.

be up tonight

-poops

cant wait to see it.. yet another AM member that will give their unbiased opinion cheers!

[poopypants]

Originally Posted by imprezivr6

This is from your log


U were up 5.5lbs on the first day, which you yourself attribute to the increase in cals/water/glycogen.

It would make more sense for your "starting" weight to be after that initial increase.. Just a little less misleading to someone not following your log.

I agree it is misleading... but if he walks away with those gains still and doesnt drop it means theyve been solidified and not just glycogen retention.... guess we'll have to wait and see.

Ive been taking Pslin and AP myself for a week now and am sure Im over the initial gain that comes with that first dose... hopefully people wont over scrutinize EVERY log and take em for face value.

Also Id like to see most guys run thier logs at least a week or two past ceasing dosing to see whats retained.... I wont be doing so since Im going to transition to Epi durin gthe second bottle but Id like to see it.

[imprezivr6]

Originally Posted by poopypants

I agree it is misleading... but if he walks away with those gains still and doesnt drop it means theyve been solidified and not just glycogen retention.... guess we'll have to wait and see.

Ive been taking Pslin and AP myself for a week now and am sure Im over the initial gain that comes with that first dose... hopefully people wont over scrutinize EVERY log and take em for face value.

Also Id like to see most guys run thier logs at least a week or two past ceasing dosing to see whats retained.... I wont be doing so since Im going to transition to Epi durin gthe second bottle but Id like to see it.

I am not sure i understand what your saying in your first statement. Are you saying if he gained a total of (for example)5.5 lbs at the end of this, and kept it, we could rule out water/glycogen? Or if he gained an additional (for example) 3.0 lbs ontop of the initial 5.5lbs, and retained that 3.0lbs?

As for scrutiny, there is a difference between just being a ****, and wanting to snub out misleading information. When you see a post saying "This is day 16 and I am up 6,6lbs", and in the log it clearly says he gained 5.5 of them on DAY 1, and attributed it to the added cals/water/glycogen, it is appropriate to point out for people reading THIS post, but maybe not the log.

I mean, i could start cell tech on Saturday morning after carb depleting M-f, reefeed Saturday, and Sunday morning weight 7-10lbs more. Would it be realistic for me then to make a post saying "i have been on cell tech for 2 days, and gained 10lbs" without giving the KEY details?

Again, my point was not to push off his work, or his log, as i have been following along, but to just clarify a pretty key point.

I do look forward to your log though.. I have read some of your past logs, and do value your input.

[poopypants]

Originally Posted by imprezivr6

I am not sure i understand what your saying in your first statement. Are you saying if he gained a total of (for example)5.5 lbs at the end of this, and kept it, we could rule out water/glycogen? Or if he gained an additional (for example) 3.0 lbs ontop of the initial 5.5lbs, and retained that 3.0lbs?

As for scrutiny, there is a difference between just being a ****, and wanting to snub out misleading information. When you see a post saying "This is day 16 and I am up 6,6lbs", and in the log it clearly says he gained 5.5 of them on DAY 1, and attributed it to the added cals/water/glycogen, it is appropriate to point out for people reading THIS post, but maybe not the log.

I mean, i could start cell tech on Saturday morning after carb depleting M-f, reefeed Saturday, and Sunday morning weight 7-10lbs more. Would it be realistic for me then to make a post saying "i have been on cell tech for 2 days, and gained 10lbs" without giving the KEY details?

Again, my point was not to push off his work, or his log, as i have been following along, but to just clarify a pretty key point.

I do look forward to your log though.. I have read some of your past logs, and do value your input.

basically what Im saying is the initial gain may be just glycogen retention but even upon cessation of prime and P-slin the next day it would have all disapeared. Now if he continues through this whole cycle and doesnt gain another pound but upon cessation doesnt lose a lb then one could assume that the normal glycogen retention weight has been solidified and turned into solid mass.... wasnt negating your comments at all, just stating the above.

I agree though if he came into this in a depleted state that should be mentioned and the above which I stated wouldnt hold any merit as it would most likely be his normal healthy weight, if he came in at a normal state and THEN added the water/glycognen then what I stated above stands.

Thanks for the comps sir.... just waiting for this shake to digest and camera to charge then will shoot the before pics/measurements and hit the gym.

[imprezivr6]

Originally Posted by poopypants

basically what Im saying is the initial gain may be just glycogen retention but even upon cessation of prime and P-slin the next day it would have all disapeared. Now if he continues through this whole cycle and doesnt gain another pound but upon cessation doesnt lose a lb then one could assume that the normal glycogen retention weight has been solidified and turned into solid mass.... wasnt negating your comments at all, just stating the above.
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I agree with that.. I was assuming he was in some form of depleted state (lower cals, maybe lower carbs, possibly both) from this statement

I will go up fast in bodyweight for a couple of days because of more food. increased glycogen storage and more water. This will level off.

Plus you can see some big weight fluctuations up/down in his body weight.

I am def open minded.. I am not trying to put a negative spin, nor positive spin on it. Just trying to stay objective..

Again, good luck with your run!