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Old 10-28-2002, 10:31 PM   #121
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Curt, I think there are blood vessels in the fatty areas of the skin and they are about the same density as the leaner layers but because of the fat, DMSO may not be able to penatrate as well and get to the blood vessels.. Dang, I wish I had my Grey's Ant. book here at the house tonight... left it in my classroom...
 
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Old 10-28-2002, 10:58 PM   #122
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Can you look into that and get back to us. Talk to ya
 
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Old 10-28-2002, 11:22 PM   #123
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I will attempt to remember Curt.. any area's in particular you want me to look at?
 
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:18 AM   #124
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If the DMSO will penetrate the fat. Or if it will get too much in to the blood... Talk to ya..
 
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Old 10-29-2002, 02:10 PM   #125
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Well I go the menthol. I am going to try to disolve 66g of menthol in 100ml of ISO. It is not as soluable in ISO as it is in water but I am going to try... If it does not work I will try water next.... Talk to ya...

PS I tried disolving a little in some ISO last night and it disolved but it was not very much. 1-2grams or so.. Talk to ya....
 
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Old 10-29-2002, 04:39 PM   #126
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Try dissolving it in 90% iso and 10% water...or, some ratio like that until it dissolves. As long as the water content doesn't get too high it shouldn't adversely affect the absorption or mix of the other ingredients. If we find that a water / iso mix is best we might be able to go with cheaper OTC alcohol instead of the 99%...

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Old 10-29-2002, 04:44 PM   #127
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Yes but that will change the final % that i am trying for. It is based on menthol in ISO...Going for 75% solution.... SO I would have to redo all the math(well not me).. I will try the ISO only first if that does not work then we will recalculate.. Talk to ya... Maybe I will get her just to recalculate with water... Talk to ya...

All I want is a 75% solution. that's all....
 
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Old 10-29-2002, 06:51 PM   #128
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Well I go the menthol. I am going to try to disolve 66g of menthol in 100ml of ISO. It is not as soluable in ISO as it is in water but I am going to try... If it does not work I will try water next.... Talk to ya...

PS I tried disolving a little in some ISO last night and it disolved but it was not very much. 1-2grams or so.. Talk to ya....
I am retarded it is the yom that is not so soluable in water. Menthol is soluable in ISO very well...

So I put 66g of menthol in 100ml ISO for a 75% solution. It worked no problem. BUT MAN IT IS MENTHOLY.. LIKE I MEAN MENTHOLLY.... Well next I must get the YOM. ANyone want to send me any.... Talk to ya...
 
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Old 10-29-2002, 08:27 PM   #129
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Curt.. still no luck on finding about how much DMSO is absorbed through fat... I am still looking though.. might take a few days.. dang work is piling thing on me right now
 
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Did you get your put together. I ask because you said the solution was really menthally. If you have finished yours, my question is this something you could have on under cloths or is night application the only option. Provided of course you have nothing planned with a sensitive nosed female. LOL Let me know if you would. I am ordering next week.
 
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Another transdermal, $ 135.00 per 8 oz

Penetrating Gel
Emulsifies Fat
On Contact

Dissolves Deep-Stored Body Fat
Wherever Applied




Ingredients:
Lecithin
Water
Octyl Palmitate

Alcohol

Glycerin

Amino Phylline
Ethylenediamine
Carbomer

Citric Acid

Propyl Gallate

Forskolin

DMDM Hydantion
Yohimbe
BHA


 








 

 
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Old 11-06-2002, 04:00 PM   #132
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Interseting. Who makes it. Too many chems to copy but it may help. Good find.. Talk to ya..
 
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Old 11-07-2002, 09:24 AM   #133
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It's made by Klein-Becker. I had to call to get
the ingredients, they are not listed on the websight.
http://www.anorexclick.com/products/dermalin/index.asp
 
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If the objective is:
1. Increase cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP)
2. Inhibit the production of phosphodiesterase (PDE)
3. Block alpha 2 adrenergic receptors
4. Lose love handles (hopefully)
Could you take forskolin and caffine orally, then yohimbine by
itself in a transdermal?

 

 

 
 
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Old 11-07-2002, 05:53 PM   #135
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It's made by Klein-Becker. I had to call to get
the ingredients, they are not listed on the websight.
http://www.anorexclick.com/products/dermalin/index.asp
Klein-Becker are scamers! They suck donkey dong. All ther topical formula does is act like a diuretic. Prepreation-H will do the same thing. Klein-Becker= $100.00 A-hole gel.
 
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Old 11-07-2002, 09:47 PM   #136
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Another products ingredients. This is the first one I've seen with
Usnic Acid. I thought UA was most effective when taken into the
bloodstream. What would be the rational for putting it into a transdermal
if the purpose of the transdermal was to disperse in fat tissue?

Ingredients: Water, Peg-100 Stearate, Glyceryl Stearate, Stearyl Alcohol, Carylic/Capric Trigylceride, Caffeine (2% w/w), Sodium Benzoate, Cyclomethicone, Dimethicone, Hydrogenated Lecithin, Benzyl Alcohol, Acrylates/C 10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Imidazolidinyl Urea, Triethanolamine, Yohimbe HCL, Forskolin, Usnic Acid and Aminophylline, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Fragrance/Cinnamon Spice.

Price $25.79 240 ml

 
 
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Did you get your put together. I ask because you said the solution was really menthally. If you have finished yours, my question is this something you could have on under cloths or is night application the only option. Provided of course you have nothing planned with a sensitive nosed female. LOL Let me know if you would. I am ordering next week.
My wife smokes Newports, so this sounds like the mixture for me. She'd never even know I had it on.
 
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curt: how'd the mix work out for you? any results yet?
 
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