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  1. Hey NDN as far as I know the l-menthol is pepermint oil which is only 43% menthol and if you are using only 6% do you think that is enough...

    Hey skazzel good catch. i did mean 66g of menthol..

    I also thought of the 3.5g in 4oz but I want ot see how easy the yom disloved first.... I will be getting some yom soon and the menthol i can get any time.So I will be trying it soon..If 3.5g will disolve in the 4oz then we can get 41.6 bottles worth out of the 500g of menthol. Talk to ya...

    Hey with that article do you think that some caffine in the mix would be benificail? Talk to ya..
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  2. Menthol is on the way....hehehe. So is the Y.. Should be fun to see if it works..It will don't worry! Talk to ya..
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  3. Originally posted by curt2go
    Hey NDN as far as I know the l-menthol is pepermint oil which is only 43% menthol and if you are using only 6% do you think that is enough...

    Hey skazzel good catch. i did mean 66g of menthol..

    I also thought of the 3.5g in 4oz but I want ot see how easy the yom disloved first.... I will be getting some yom soon and the menthol i can get any time.So I will be trying it soon..If 3.5g will disolve in the 4oz then we can get 41.6 bottles worth out of the 500g of menthol. Talk to ya...

    Hey with that article do you think that some caffine in the mix would be benificail? Talk to ya..
    For my 240 ml mixture, i added 15ml of peppermint oil (6%). I did this because the guys who created yohimburn use a ratio of 8 parts aloe to 1 part peppermint oil. Not to mention the scent is pretty damn strong for such a small amount, i couldnt imagine it being stronger.

    I didnt have much of a problem dissolving the stuff. I used hot water and mixed in the y-hcl and mixed it until it dissolved. Mess around with it and let us know how much you can get.

    For the caffine I have always thought it would be a good idea. The y-hcl transdermal causes you to hold water, while caffine, which is a natural diruetic, can take care of this problem. But for this purpose i think that Aminophylline would be a better choice. It is what many other transdermal fat loss products use to remove water weight.

  4. Originally posted by ndn diablo
    For the caffine I have always thought it would be a good idea. The y-hcl transdermal causes you to hold water, while caffine, which is a natural diruetic, can take care of this problem. But for this purpose i think that Aminophylline would be a better choice. It is what many other transdermal fat loss products use to remove water weight.
    Isn't aminophylline controlled?

    Chemo

  5. Originally posted by Big Daddy Chemo


    Isn't aminophylline controlled?

    Chemo
    Aminophylline is a fat-soluble version of the drug theophylline, an asthma control drug that also breaks down fat. Its the active ingredient in dozens of over the counter transdermal weight loss products.
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  6. Why don't we just get Mini-Bing to test the LipoDerm-Y solution? That is if Par hasn't put a hit on the guy! Anyway, I have used LipoDerm-Y and I didn't notice a thing and I was only 8% BF at the time, I sent it back for a refund.

  7. We don't need Par's formula here. Yohimburn is simple it works and its cheap to reproduce... Talk to ya.
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  8. Originally posted by curt2go
    We don't need Par's formula here. Yohimburn is simple it works and its cheap to reproduce... Talk to ya.
    Agreed. One of the reasons many of us choose to homebrew is to save money. If you plan on spending the money on purchasing all the ingredients par uses in his formula and trying to make a copy of lipoderm-y, you might as well goto 1fast400.com and buy the real thing.

  9. Originally posted by ndn diablo


    Agreed. One of the reasons many of us choose to homebrew is to save money. If you plan on spending the money on purchasing all the ingredients par uses in his formula and trying to make a copy of lipoderm-y, you might as well goto 1fast400.com and buy the real thing.
    To get all the ingredients for LipoDerm maybe, but I have bought all the ingredients that are in his pro-hormome gel and while it was kind of a pain geting them all together, I will save tons of money doing multiple cycles. I have never used Yohimburn, it just may work better than Par's formula, but I would be surprised if it did. Par, like him or not, knows transdermal delivery better than anyone else I know.

  10. Anyone can portray themselve to be knowledgeable. Look at me....hehehe. Yeh I hear what you are saying but to buy all par's formula stuff i don't know if you will save money.. Why don't you price everything out and let us know.Then we will all know.. Talk to ya
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  11. OK guys

    Probably a rookie question, so bear with me. Do you apply this to areas that are fatty, or is it absobed and transported throught the body like PHs.

    As always thanks for the help

  12. It is a spot remover.... Just rub on fatty area and whalla. Its gone(hopefully)..


    Talk to ya.
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  13. Well you know how we were thinking about caffine in the mix well my wife sells Beuti control and they have a celulite remover product. It has a whole bunch of big chems in it but it does has caffine in it.. SO it looks like it might be a good idea... Can anyone speculate on how much /dose.... 50mg??????? Talk to ya..
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  14. 60% aloe to make it a gel
    10% propylene glycol(a must for hydrphilic substances)
    10% d-limonene( shown to be a good penetrant for hydroliphics)
    8% water (It will promote absorption of hydroliphics)
    2% DMSO(cause it helps anything to get in)

    I think this was Curt2gos last recipe. I am getting the stuff together. Is this the final recommendation?

    We are putt 3.5 grams of Yo in 240ml. Right ?

  15. Nope. That one is old. Here is my latest...

    48% aloe
    25% water
    15% menthol(in alcohol) solution
    10% PG
    2% DMSO
    Y-hcl 3.5g for 1month supply...

    This is what i will be using as soon as everything gets here. I still have to order some yom though.. talk to ya
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  16. Originally posted by curt2go
    Nope. That one is old. Here is my latest...

    48% aloe
    25% water
    15% menthol(in alcohol) solution
    10% PG
    2% DMSO
    Y-hcl 3.5g for 1month supply...

    This is what i will be using as soon as everything gets here. I still have to order some yom though.. talk to ya
    I thought based on the post by BDC that glycerol would be a better choice than PG in our homebrews? I know that he was talking about with PH/PS but would it matter with Y-CL as well?

  17. Originally posted by curt2go
    Nope. That one is old. Here is my latest...

    48% aloe
    25% water
    15% menthol(in alcohol) solution
    10% PG
    2% DMSO
    Y-hcl 3.5g for 1month supply...

    This is what i will be using as soon as everything gets here. I still have to order some yom though.. talk to ya
    I thought based on the post by BDC that glycerol would be a better choice than PG in our homebrews? I know that he was talking about with PH/PS but would it help with Y-CL as well?

  18. I like PG i have lots and it is easy to get. The reason that BDC likes the gyc better is that it worked more effiecintly with ISO.... You can use it if you like.. Obviously but I'm just going to use PG.. Talk to ya
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  19. Originally posted by curt2go
    Anyone can portray themselve to be knowledgeable. Look at me....hehehe. Yeh I hear what you are saying but to buy all par's formula stuff i don't know if you will save money.. Why don't you price everything out and let us know.Then we will all know.. Talk to ya
    Curt, lol. Glad you have a sense of humor and took my joke about being "hardcore" the right way. Just speculation on my part, but DMSO is such a powerful carrier that it may push the yohimbine right into your system and defeat your intent of "localized delivery" for spot-reduction.

  20. The thing about the DMSO is that it gets things accross the SC. It disrupts it very good and pull things in. Well with the ph fromula we put it on thin skined areas becasue we know there is blood vesels there. Well with fatty areas there is not too many blood vesels in fat. Am I correct?... If my theory is correct then the DMSO will get the yom very quickly across the SC and on the other side of the SC is fat with no blood vessels. The DMSO has done its job to get the yom across it not like it digs deeper.... SO the yom will be in the fat where ther is no blood vessels to do its work. It is not going to carry the yom farther than the menthol and other pe's they will all carry the yom the same length across the SC. But since ther is no blood vessels. It just leaves it there deposited in the fat.....

    Am I totally off base here or what... That is my theory anyways....Talk to ya..
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  21. Curt, I think there are blood vessels in the fatty areas of the skin and they are about the same density as the leaner layers but because of the fat, DMSO may not be able to penatrate as well and get to the blood vessels.. Dang, I wish I had my Grey's Ant. book here at the house tonight... left it in my classroom...

  22. Can you look into that and get back to us. Talk to ya
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  23. I will attempt to remember Curt.. any area's in particular you want me to look at?

  24. If the DMSO will penetrate the fat. Or if it will get too much in to the blood... Talk to ya..
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  25. Well I go the menthol. I am going to try to disolve 66g of menthol in 100ml of ISO. It is not as soluable in ISO as it is in water but I am going to try... If it does not work I will try water next.... Talk to ya...

    PS I tried disolving a little in some ISO last night and it disolved but it was not very much. 1-2grams or so.. Talk to ya....
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