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10-21-2002, 01:29 PM
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| Homebrew Help, Inc.  | WELL THERE THEY ARE YOU GUYS OWE ME BIG... hehehe. Talk to ya. |
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10-21-2002, 04:23 PM
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| Brewing Anabolic Minds  |  WOW! You never cease to amaze me Curt! Everyone be sure to give a big thanks to the man  Chemo |
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10-21-2002, 08:23 PM
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| Registered User | Wewp! We definately all owe you one curt! |
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10-21-2002, 09:14 PM
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| Homebrew Help, Inc. | Ahhh both of you just shut up and post something good for once.... hehehe...  Talk to ya.. |
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10-21-2002, 09:26 PM
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| Registered User | Curt I am absolutley astounded at the amount of work that you have put into this thread, I am impressed. (i'm still not gonna do my cycle until november, hehe  ) |
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10-21-2002, 09:45 PM
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| Homebrew Help, Inc. | Ok here is a little more... We may need to put some alcohol in but just to make a menthol solution... Here is what i came up with. I can get 500g of menthol crystals for 50cad 30usd... it takes 66mg disolved in 100ml of ISO to make a 75% menthol solution(same as cornmint oil)... This would take the place of the cornmint oil. menthol crytals are more redily avalibe and cheaper I think. And here is why.... You take 500g mentholdisolve it in 750ml of ISO and you get 750ml's of 75% solution menthol..... If we use 15% in the recipe then we need 36ml/240ml bottle.. Then we can get the menthol for 20.8 bottles for about $35.. That s for about $1.70/ bottle fo4r the menthol. Now thats not too bad... Here would be the price aprox for the recipe that I will use... 48% aloe $1.00 25% water(free) 15% menthol(in alcohol) solution $1.70 10% PG $0.20 2% DMSO$0.50 Y-hcl 3.5g for 1month supply...$17.50 Well what do you guys think about $21.00 Is that going to cut it... This is a minimal ingredient recipe for least dollars.......... PS. I did not do the calc on the solution. My sister in law did and she is in chem eng so i trust it.. But I did really figure it out. Yeh thats what we wil go with.. hehehe Talk to ya.. |
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10-21-2002, 11:12 PM
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| Registered User | curt2go, Looks good bro. Did you mean 66g instead of mg for the menthol? If it is 66mg, you would get much more than 20 bottles out of 500g, no? Are you going to mix some up soon and give it a shot? |
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10-22-2002, 12:34 AM
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| Registered User | Ok, tell me what you guys think. There's an article in Duchaine's Dirty Dieting called The Art of Spot Reduction. It basically the states that there is such a thing as spot reduction(we all know this) and goes on to explin a more involved method than simple Yohimbine. The steps include: 1. Increasing cAMP in the area in which the fat loss is desired. The methods they recommend are injectable clenbuterol or albuterol. 2. Once cAMP is elevated in the fat cells, an enzyme called phosphodiesterase(PDE) wil appear. PDE destroys cAMP so we have stop take care of the PDE. Two PDE inhibitors are suggested (amrinone & milrinone), but they are next to impossible to get. The next best things for destryoing the PDE's are theophylline or caffeine. 3.The next step is either destoying or blocking the Alpha 2 receptors. One unatainable drug called atipamezole detroys them and as we all know, Yohimbine blocks them. 4.The more cAMP rises, the more adenosine is found in the fat cells. Adensine needs to be blocked also, but the caffeine or theophylline will do the trick. 5. Start slow with each step. First as the beta agonist, then a few days later the PDE inhibitor and lastly the Alpha 2. I was thinking of using albuterol or a mixture of albuterol and forskolin to raise cAMP, theophylline & Yohimbine, in three different transdermal mixtures. Has anyone else read this article or have any suggestions on what trans mixture might be best for each compund?? |
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10-22-2002, 01:52 AM
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10-22-2002, 01:57 AM
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I like the idea of using dissolved menthol crystals in the solution. But I am still a bit weary on the DMSO. This is a new formula I came up with that should be close to yohimburn's formula: 50% Aloe 34% Water 6% L-Menthol 10% - Glycerol 3.5 g y-hcl (4oz bottle) or 7 grams for 8oz bottle I think duplicating yohimburn's formula is the cheapest and most effective way of creating a yhcl homebrew. Yohimburn has been reported by many to deliver the results it claims - on the spot fat reduction. If we can duplicate it then I would think we would have a pretty good homebrew. | |
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10-22-2002, 09:54 AM
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| Homebrew Help, Inc. | Hey NDN as far as I know the l-menthol is pepermint oil which is only 43% menthol and if you are using only 6% do you think that is enough... Hey skazzel good catch. i did mean 66g of menthol.. I also thought of the 3.5g in 4oz but I want ot see how easy the yom disloved first.... I will be getting some yom soon and the menthol i can get any time.So I will be trying it soon..If 3.5g will disolve in the 4oz then we can get 41.6 bottles worth out of the 500g of menthol. Talk to ya... Hey with that article do you think that some caffine in the mix would be benificail? Talk to ya.. |
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10-22-2002, 10:38 AM
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| Homebrew Help, Inc. | Menthol is on the way....hehehe. So is the Y.. Should be fun to see if it works..It will don't worry! Talk to ya.. |
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10-22-2002, 08:01 PM
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I didnt have much of a problem dissolving the stuff. I used hot water and mixed in the y-hcl and mixed it until it dissolved. Mess around with it and let us know how much you can get. For the caffine I have always thought it would be a good idea. The y-hcl transdermal causes you to hold water, while caffine, which is a natural diruetic, can take care of this problem. But for this purpose i think that Aminophylline would be a better choice. It is what many other transdermal fat loss products use to remove water weight. | |
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10-22-2002, 08:10 PM
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| Brewing Anabolic Minds | Quote:
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10-22-2002, 08:31 PM
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10-23-2002, 05:01 PM
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| S.O.L. everytime  | Why don't we just get Mini-Bing to test the LipoDerm-Y solution? That is if Par hasn't put a hit on the guy!  Anyway, I have used LipoDerm-Y and I didn't notice a thing and I was only 8% BF at the time, I sent it back for a refund. |
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10-23-2002, 06:21 PM
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| Homebrew Help, Inc. | We don't need Par's formula here. Yohimburn is simple it works and its cheap to reproduce... Talk to ya. |
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10-23-2002, 07:09 PM
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