ALCAR + mitochondrial uncoupling

[EasyEJL]

So is it possible to get DNP type mitochondrial uncoupling from a high enough dose of ALCAR? and what sort of dosing would that be, and what other dangers would it carry?

 

[Distilled Water]

So is it possible to get DNP type mitochondrial decoupling from a high enough dose of ALCAR? and what sort of dosing would that be, and what other dangers would it carry?

Hrmmm this sounds like a job for Strategic Move :hammer:

 

[Rodja]

It may be possible, but you will need a good dose of potent anti-O's before, during, and after.

Also, it's "uncoupler" :thumbsup:

 

[EasyEJL]

yes, funny when I did google searches I used uncoupling but somehow typed decoupling here

 

[Distilled Water]

yes, funny when I did google searches I used uncoupling but somehow typed decoupling here

Age is creeeping up on you :ntome:

 

[TheMyth]

Hrmmm this sounds like a job for Strategic Move :hammer:

hahahahaha, all we need now is to cue the SuperMan music, dundunaduhhhh! StrategicMove!!!

 

[flu1d]

Not sure about the whole uncoupling thing but I'm currently running ALCAR at 6g a day, 3 x 2g doses, and have ran it at 10g in the past. No sides noticed, just lots of fat lost. I can't imagine how ALCAR can achieve something DNP can though? Sounds whacky!

 

[EasyEJL]

hmm interesting. I may go higher, need to do more capping then, and order more only grabbed 100g last time

 

[Force of Green]

Too much ALCAR would probably deplete the brain of a lot of choline and dopamine, so it'd be wise to supplement with some choline and L-Phenylalanine whilst doing an ALCAR megadosing protocol.

 

[Distilled Water]

I just need some ALA and I'd burn thru my last 150gr of ALCAR (I'd do 10gr/day) before my bulk for the good of the community.

 

[Xodus]

I would add some choline in there with your caps.

 

[Force of Green]

I would add some choline in there with your caps.

I SAID IT FIRST! GO TO HELL! COPYCAT BASTARD! WAHHHHH! :aargh:

 

[Xodus]

I SAID IT FIRST! GO TO HELL! COPYCAT BASTARD! WAHHHHH! :aargh:

Awww Damn it. Didn't see your post.


<Actually I ignore most F.O.G. posts>

:toofunny:

 

[Distilled Water]

What if I did this 2x's day

5gr ALCAR
250mg ALA
1gr Vit C
400iu Vit E
1 scoop Cycle Support

 

[EasyEJL]

I've got around 200 1000mg phosphatadyl choline caps, and 300g I think of DL-Phenylalanine so I can do that, plus IGF-2, and regularly take resveratrol as an antioxidant. could buy some noxidant too

 

[EasyEJL]

I guess that is another related q, should the alcar be spread in many doses or is just 2 doses ok? would 2g 5x a day be better than 5g 2x?

 

[Force of Green]

I guess that is another related q, should the alcar be spread in many doses or is just 2 doses ok? would 2g 5x a day be better than 5g 2x?

Better to be spread out. You can crash if you dose too much at once. Ramp your way up and titrate back down to avoid any unwanted cognitive rebound.

 

[Distilled Water]

I've got around 200 1000mg phosphatadyl choline caps, and 300g I think of DL-Phenylalanine so I can do that, plus IGF-2, and regularly take resveratrol as an antioxidant. could buy some noxidant too

Yea thats another option but I'd have to wait since funds are a little low til monday. maybe dose the NO-xidant 2caps with each dose (if you do it 2x's a day)

 

[Distilled Water]

Bump for any new info!

 

[thebigt]

try adding plcar, plcar+alcar=potent combo. i like adding them to poseidon-down side is taste but crystal light takes care of most of it.

 

[Distilled Water]

try adding plcar, plcar+alcar=potent combo. i like adding them to poseidon-down side is taste but crystal light takes care of most of it.

what have you been noticing? I have 100gr of ALCAR stil along with a full tub of posiedon. Depending on your answer I may pick up some PLCAR........decisions riding on you bigt :bruce2:

 

[EasyEJL]

i have 500g of alcar, was going to dose in the 12-15g a day range

 

[Distilled Water]

i have 500g of alcar, was going to dose in the 12-15g a day range

See I wanted to but forgot to order NO-Xident my last NP order :frustrate

I have the basic anti-ox supps;Green Tea, CoQ10, Vit E, ALA, Vit C...but that NO-Xident.....now she look real purdy to me

 

[EasyEJL]

yah, i have ala, green tea, vit c, fish oil, SAMe

 

[Distilled Water]

Nice I forgot about me fish oil

 

[thebigt]

what have you been noticing? I have 100gr of ALCAR stil along with a full tub of posiedon. Depending on your answer I may pick up some PLCAR........decisions riding on you bigt :bruce2:

more energy. plus a nice boost in libido. also noticed improved recovery. imo plcar is very worthwhile.

 

[thesinner]

What if I did this 2x's day

5gr ALCAR
250mg ALA
1gr Vit C
400iu Vit E
1 scoop Cycle Support

Add some ALA. Let's lower blood sugar to get some AMPK activation, as well as protect against the ketone bodies that form, as well as the acetaldehyde which might accumulate when the acetyl ether gets stripped.

Personally, I think this is not going to work. ALCAR serves too many other purposes in the body, and is used to make ATP. DNP blocks the sythesis of ATP.

 

[Distilled Water]

Add some ALA. Let's lower blood sugar to get some AMPK activation, as well as protect against the ketone bodies that form, as well as the acetaldehyde which might accumulate when the acetyl ether gets stripped.

Personally, I think this is not going to work. ALCAR serves too many other purposes in the body, and is used to make ATP. DNP blocks the sythesis of ATP.

Can't hate a man for trying :sad:

I read last night for about 2 hours on DNP and the blocking ATP is what makes it pretty unique (and effective)