[Beau]

Some of you may have read my other posts about a tough situation I've been going through, and will be continuing to go through for some time. This has left me listless and depressed, lacking self-confidence and self-respect, etc. (and even though I wasn't the cause of another's decision(s) which created the situation - I'm still taking a huge emotional hit - I'm hoping that will change as I work through this).

I know supplements can only do so much - and I've got a lot of emotional work and grieving to do regardless of whatever good comes from supplements- yet I am trying to get some relief, maybe take the edge off, from the mental anguish and blues.

I'll be using GABA + Triptophan + 5-HTP in the evenings, since that is the time most of the emotional collapse takes place.

Can anyone offer starting dosage recommendations? After losing almost 30 lbs (from this), I now weigh in at a svelte 168 lbs.

So, brothers (sisters, too) - any dosage ideas?

[Brother]

I was using about 5000mg of GABA with 100mg of 5HTP and Valerian root to get some deep sleep. I recently started taking hypertest and my mood seems to be really up and sleep is great too(ZMA in Hypertest). I can tell you GABA helped with my sleep. Never used Triptophan. I think the GABA helped with some stress I wa having as well. Its helpful with ADD and ADHD I've read. Helps reduce "brain chatter" neurotrpic

[edit] Pharmacology
Drugs that act as agonists of GABA receptors (known as GABA analogues or GABAergic drugs) or increase the available amount of GABA typically have relaxing, anti-anxiety and anti-convulsive effects. Many of the substances below are known to cause anterograde amnesia and retrograde amnesia.

GABA has been purported to increase the amount of the Human Growth Hormone. The results of those studies have been seldom replicated and have recently been in question since it is unknown if GABA can pass the blood-brain barrier.

I used Neurobalance because of the blood brain barrier as well. I liked it but its a little pricey. Good luck.

[EasyEJL]

you might want to pick up 1-carboxy bulk, from nutraplanet as a USP product I think it is. very sweet as far as relaxation goes.

[Beau]

Thanks guys. I am going to start off like this:

Powerfull 1320 mg @ bedtime
5-HTP 100 mg @ bedtime
Triptophan 500 mg @ bedtime
ZMA 3 caps @ bedtime
GABA 500mg 2 hours prior to bed (I've been told to build up over time)

[Al Shades]

What's the point of taking both 5-htp and Trypto at once? They are the same thing in different forms...

My own bedtime stack will be similar to this. Also includes AAKG/OAKG and B5.
GABA/Phenibut/Theanine are related compounds, like 5htp/Ltrypto, so you should pick one of them and take it seperately.

[heebs10]

phenibut is a MAJOR help when im feeling down. if you havent tried it or are not already using it i highly recommend it

[nelix]

Phenibut + GABA
1carboxy bulk from nutraplaent
ZMT nutracaps
Skip the 5htp.

[DBinMD]

Beau,
If you feel it’s safer to start a 500mg, then do so. But I don’t think you’re going to feel much until you get to at least 3 grams because only a very small percent gets thru the blood/brain barrier. It doesn’t do much for me until about 6 grams.

DB

[boxmeman]

Originally Posted by Beau

Some of you may have read my other posts about a tough situation I've been going through, and will be continuing to go through for some time. This has left me listless and depressed, lacking self-confidence and self-respect, etc. (and even though I wasn't the cause of another's decision(s) which created the situation - I'm still taking a huge emotional hit - I'm hoping that will change as I work through this).

I know supplements can only do so much - and I've got a lot of emotional work and grieving to do regardless of whatever good comes from supplements- yet I am trying to get some relief, maybe take the edge off, from the mental anguish and blues.

I'll be using GABA + Triptophan + 5-HTP in the evenings, since that is the time most of the emotional collapse takes place.

Can anyone offer starting dosage recommendations? After losing almost 30 lbs (from this), I now weigh in at a svelte 168 lbs.

So, brothers (sisters, too) - any dosage ideas?

Its spelled tryptophan I just got done witha study in a researh lab to see if promotes breast cncer growth, still have tocompile the data.You do know that excess tryptophan gets converted to serotoin right?

[Brother]

I just started using Phenibut and I must say its the best thing Ive taken for deep sleep. Been having amazing dreams and sleeping through the night. I would highly recomend it but as most will tell you dont over do it. THe first night I took it I came close and the next day was very ...lets jsut say I felt like I was on a Zanex till about 3 the next afternoon. Not bad just TOO relaxed if you get my drift. And that was only at about 1200mg and Im 6'3 220lbs.

[Al Shades]

Originally Posted by boxmeman

Its spelled tryptophan I just got done witha study in a researh lab to see if promotes breast cncer growth, still have tocompile the data.You do know that excess tryptophan gets converted to serotoin right?

Isn't that the entire point of taking it?

L-Tyrosine/L-Dopa ==> Dopamine (energy neurotransmitter)
L-Tryptophan/5-HTP ==> Serotonin (relaxation neurotransmitter)

[boxmeman]

Originally Posted by Al Shades

Isn't that the entire point of taking it?

L-Tyrosine/L-Dopa ==> Dopamine (energy neurotransmitter)
L-Tryptophan/5-HTP ==> Serotonin (relaxation neurotransmitter)

You got it! At least someone reponds to my post!

[quigs]

Originally Posted by Beau

Some of you may have read my other posts about a tough situation I've been going through, and will be continuing to go through for some time. This has left me listless and depressed, lacking self-confidence and self-respect, etc. (and even though I wasn't the cause of another's decision(s) which created the situation - I'm still taking a huge emotional hit - I'm hoping that will change as I work through this).

I know supplements can only do so much - and I've got a lot of emotional work and grieving to do regardless of whatever good comes from supplements- yet I am trying to get some relief, maybe take the edge off, from the mental anguish and blues.

I'll be using GABA + Triptophan + 5-HTP in the evenings, since that is the time most of the emotional collapse takes place.

Can anyone offer starting dosage recommendations? After losing almost 30 lbs (from this), I now weigh in at a svelte 168 lbs.

So, brothers (sisters, too) - any dosage ideas?

Skip the 5HTP and just go with Tryptophan. Tryptophan is much more effective IMO. GABA is good if dosed high enough (like at least 2-3g). I've noticed the best results around 5g. For a very good relaxation, anti-anxiety, sleep stack, I'd suggest the following:

GABA 3g daily
Tryptophan 500mg 3x's per day
L-Theanine 1g daily
Magnolia Extract (or relora) daily

Other good herbal extracts to consider:
Corydalis extract (on occasion in the evenings)
Lemon Balm
Chamomile
St. John's Wort
Valerian root

I like phenibut a lot too, but unfortunately due to how quickly tolerance develops I wouldn't suggest it for regular use.

[moveweight]

Originally Posted by quigs

Skip the 5HTP and just go with Tryptophan. Tryptophan is much more effective IMO. GABA is good if dosed high enough (like at least 2-3g). I've noticed the best results around 5g. For a very good relaxation, anti-anxiety, sleep stack, I'd suggest the following:

GABA 3g daily
Tryptophan 500mg 3x's per day
L-Theanine 1g daily
Magnolia Extract (or relora) daily

Other good herbal extracts to consider:
Corydalis extract (on occasion in the evenings)
Lemon Balm
Chamomile
St. John's Wort
Valerian root

I like phenibut a lot too, but unfortunately due to how quickly tolerance develops I wouldn't suggest it for regular use.

REPS... strong post here... info is 100% on point!!

[boxmeman]

Originally Posted by quigs

Skip the 5HTP and just go with Tryptophan. Tryptophan is much more effective IMO. GABA is good if dosed high enough (like at least 2-3g). I've noticed the best results around 5g. For a very good relaxation, anti-anxiety, sleep stack, I'd suggest the following:

GABA 3g daily
Tryptophan 500mg 3x's per day
L-Theanine 1g daily
Magnolia Extract (or relora) daily

Other good herbal extracts to consider:
Corydalis extract (on occasion in the evenings)
Lemon Balm
Chamomile
St. John's Wort
Valerian root

I like phenibut a lot too, but unfortunately due to how quickly tolerance develops I wouldn't suggest it for regular use.

St. Johns wort when taken on a regular basis causes extreme sensitivy to the sun and any prolonged time inwhich your skin is exosed can cause buring-not fun I watched my mom experience this as a kid.