There has been some talk of this raising progesterone/prolactin, but I can't find any studies to back it up. It seems to do this in women but I can't find anything on the effects in men. Does anyone have any info on this?
The Longjax I've used from Nutra definately agrivated my pre-existing gyno. Libido went up significantly...literally, and test seemed to increase too as I got some acne and become more aggressive. (sorry, no info, just personal exp)
Do some searching on this topic. I was just reading an informative thread where Dr. D was talking about this. I just got some of the 20:1 LJ in myself and I'm a little concerned about taking it. Definitely do some research and be careful.
I used Indonesian Tongkat Ali at 3600mg a day for a month and never saw signs of gyno. I don't know of any studies, but yes Dr.D mentioned it before.
i only use 1000mg twice a day and had no probs just alittle breakout on my shoulders
1000 mg of root or extract ? What extraction ratio extract ? The native medicine uses 50 g of root daily.
20 grams of root... lowish by the native medicine standards but at least in the same ballpark.
I really have to wonder if the milligram doses work, too.
i mainly just take controlled labs blue-up. i get a good boost with that in libido and strength. its only $20..
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Funny thing is, the tongkat does make my hair grow faster.
And the hair on my head grows the fastest.
Not complaining, and quite pleased.
Just wondering if anyone else has that same result?
I might half the dose of the tongkat and add some nettle back into my regimen.
Because the nettle helped me lean out faster.
Only thing is I already drink almost 2 gals of water a day.
I had to drink more with the nettle because of the diuretic effect.
Also I get a 'ecdy' like hardening effect from the tongkat as well.
I have been doing the recommended 5 day on 3 day off dose for about three months.
Pretty good stuff.
Was thinking about trying their 200:1 at about 1200mg a day but that will have to wait until I save up and go through my X-Factor/DHA test phase.
have been on the tongkat 200:1 for two weeks now.
1 cap three times a day in 300 mg caps.
way more focus and energy.
i take them before work on the graveyard shift and i'm peppy all night.
and it seems like i can breeze through my work like a demon.
my sleep is more regular and refreshing as well.
and when working out, lets just say my endurance is pretty good as well.
my libido is sky high.
and that stuff gives like insane lasting power sexually.
and when i finally did orgasm...i felt drained like i had run a marathon.
its some mean stuff.
i am sticking with the 200:1 and when my income gets better I am getting the 600 mg caps directly from indonesia.
going to get my GF to try some kacip fatimah.
Good to hear.