There has been some talk of this raising progesterone/prolactin, but I can't find any studies to back it up. It seems to do this in women but I can't find anything on the effects in men. Does anyone have any info on this?
The dosage differences sure are strange, the recommended (native medicine based) Indonesian dosages are like 1000 times higher than those used elsewhere.I used Indonesian Tongkat Ali at 3600mg a day for a month
20:11000 mg of root or extract ? What extraction ratio extract ? The native medicine uses 50 g of root daily.
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I use about 2400mg of the sumatra pasak a day and have no gyno or anything related.I used Indonesian Tongkat Ali at 3600mg a day for a month and never saw signs of gyno. I don't know of any studies, but yes Dr.D mentioned it before.
thats the first time ive ever heard of something that increases test to make hair on head grow faster, usually it's the opposite.I use about 2400mg of the sumatra pasak a day and have no gyno or anything related.
Funny thing is, the tongkat does make my hair grow faster.
And the hair on my head grows the fastest.
Not complaining, and quite pleased.
Just wondering if anyone else has that same result?
Nettle root does the same for me. But it's only increasing free test.thats the first time ive ever heard of something that increases test to make hair on head grow faster, usually it's the opposite.
I had the same situation with nettle but the tongkat seems to work faster.Nettle root does the same for me. But it's only increasing free test.
From what I have read, you are right about most test boosting supps.thats the first time ive ever heard of something that increases test to make hair on head grow faster, usually it's the opposite.
id love to get my hands on the 200:1 extract, as the 50:1 I felt pretty damn good on.have been on the tongkat 200:1 for two weeks now.
1 cap three times a day in 300 mg caps.
way more focus and energy.
i take them before work on the graveyard shift and i'm peppy all night.
and it seems like i can breeze through my work like a demon.
my sleep is more regular and refreshing as well.
and when working out, lets just say my endurance is pretty good as well.
my libido is sky high.
and that stuff gives like insane lasting power sexually.
and when i finally did orgasm...i felt drained like i had run a marathon.
its some mean stuff.
i am sticking with the 200:1 and when my income gets better I am getting the 600 mg caps directly from indonesia.
going to get my GF to try some kacip fatimah.
So you're basically mega-dosing it? I've read that 100:1 can be dosed at 25mg effectively, and up to 100mg with anything over being overkill.From what I have read, you are right about most test boosting supps.
Also I get a 'ecdy' like hardening effect from the tongkat as well.
I have been doing the recommended 5 day on 3 day off dose for about three months.
Pretty good stuff.
Was thinking about trying their 200:1 at about 1200mg a day but that will have to wait until I save up and go through my X-Factor/DHA test phase.
He has the ratio backwards. He has Indonesian Tongkat ali at 1:200 at 300mg capsules. I have taken up to 3600mg of the 1:50So you're basically mega-dosing it? I've read that 100:1 can be dosed at 25mg effectively, and up to 100mg with anything over being overkill.
the 1-200 is a different extract than the LJ100 as Chainsaw said.So you're basically mega-dosing it? I've read that 100:1 can be dosed at 25mg effectively, and up to 100mg with anything over being overkill.
As I have never tried it nor do I know all the ingredients, I could not speak on Diesel Test Hardcore.so coould get increased estrogen/psuedogyno from diesel test hardcore which has tongat in it?