I usually start the Cycle Support two weeks prior to starting the cycle, take while "on" and throughout post cycle therapy. Remember that it will help get your lipids back to normal post cycle due to the inclusion of the Red Yeast Rice.
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how's your blood pressure? this is most likely the cause...if you're not already taking it, some hawthorn berry and celery seed should help with bp issues
my blood pressure has always been normal...and no i wasnt taking either...im goin to gnc to pick up both tomorrow once i wake up...should i just take recomended dosage? and continue until done with this cycle? or continue after when taking my post cycle tabs....
I used an OTC pct for a cycle of epistane (same compound as havoc) and diendrone back in February. I ran cycle support before, during, and after my cycle as well. My pct consisted of AX's Apct, Activate Extreme, and Lean Extreme. The shutdown I experienced was a little worse than I expected however this PCT worked well for me. By the way, I did have clomid on hand just in case, better safe than sorry IMO.
Lol no need to have a bit*h fit here man I was just answering his question thats all. Everyone is entitled to run their cycle the way they wish whether it be using an otc pct or a serm. While I do agree serms are a must, at the time I choose to run the risk of getting by with an otc. Although I did not have bloodwork done post cycle, I maybe only lost a pound or two and my strength hasnt gone down either. SERMS are very harsh chemicals and some of us just dont want to deal with more sides post cycle. Not sure if you experienced this but while I was on epi, I experienced some pretty heavy mood swings probably 2 weeks in.
SERMs are not illegal. However it is illegal to possess one without a prescription. You can buy one over the internet and have it shipped to your house, the feds won't come knocking or anything since it's not illegal to buy one.
I wasn't calling you out. :surprised: You had a SERM on standby. I too used an OTC with a SERM on standby. I'm just saying from experience, I will never NOT use a SERM ever on ANY cycle Period. Even if its as little as 25mg or even 12.5mg/day of clomiphene citrate, this will help tremendously for restarting testosterone...thats so low that you'll have no liver issues or sides.
So you had bloodwork done to verify you were not shutdown?
Ahh no prob man I took it the wrong way I apologize... Did you like Epi? To be honest I expected a bit more off of it. I did put on about five pounds but to me in was barely noticeable as far as hardness, definition, etc.
well I have low-T by nature...I didn't know it at the time. So, when I took epi it was like a dream come true. My body wasn't expecting so much additional androgenic/anabolic activity and I put on remarkable 15lbs with a drastic, unheard of transformation in 4 weeks.
Wow those are some pretty awesome numbers. I was actually thinking of running my first superdrol cycle in November. Have you ran super before? If so, how were the sides for you?
Terrible. Perhaps one of the worst times of my life to-date.
Wow that sucks man sorry to hear you had such a bad experience with super. I will definitely think twice about using this in the future... We need honest reviews about these types of compounds instead of everyone just restating what they've read in previous posts. Thanks for sharing that monster.
wow... i laughed at the burn my house down for no reason part but i know what you mean too. ill take your advice seriously and stay away from Sdrol thats for sure
im on day 10 of a havoc run and so far its been good to me also. for being kind of unconditioned i am getting great vascularity and pumps! the only downside ive felt might not even be from the havoc, but once and a while i get extrememly tired at the end of the day. i also work 12 plus hours a day out here in Iraq too so that could have something to do with it
it wasnt too bad, and my libido is high as hell right now, so ill just keep the carbs rolling and see how it goes. worse comes to worse... i can get some DHEA in a week. but so far i have usually felt great!
How did Havoc compare to the sides of Superdrol? And Hdrol's sides aren't anything like that are they? I'm bout to do my first Hdrol so just curious.
Havoc is a lot less harsh than superdrol and hdrol is even less harsh than havoc. As a whole hdrol is pretty mild and a good one to start of with
Check your thyroid function. I've had some similar side-effects from products more in the "cutting" function.
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