I wasn't calling you out. :surprised: You had a SERM on standby. I too used an OTC with a SERM on standby. I'm just saying from experience, I will never NOT use a SERM ever on ANY cycle Period. Even if its as little as 25mg or even 12.5mg/day of clomiphene citrate, this will help tremendously for restarting testosterone...thats so low that you'll have no liver issues or sides.
Its 100% certain that you'll be shutdown by a methyl, but theres definitely no promise in recovery with OTC pct. At least a SERM gives you medical proof that it helps in infertility and recovery.
Yes, I had extremely bad mood swings 2 weeks in on epi/havoc. I believe its related to shutdown of the natural T.
Anyways, didn't mean to come across like a ****...I was speaking in general, thats why I didn't quote you.
SERMS are NOT illegal, if they are purchased in research liquid form....hint In research form they are legal to trade and posses, but illegal to consume. So, just pretend you are a rat.