Ephedrine effects on Digestion

[Driven2lift]

Not sure how this works but apparently it can slow digestion.


http://www.dentalbytes.com/nutrition/calcium-and-phosphorus-requirements/ephedrine-slows-digestive-process.htm

Thoughts?

 

[RecompMan]

Not sure how this works but apparently it can slow digestion.

http://www.dentalbytes.com/nutrition/calcium-and-phosphorus-requirements/ephedrine-slows-digestive-process.htm

Thoughts?

Yaaaaaa

I take it with a huge cheat meal with a b complex and recompadrol and MP

Ill almost always have a good poo soon after and feel like the meal never affected me negatively

 

[Driven2lift]

Yaaaaaa

I take it with a huge cheat meal with a b complex and recompadrol and MP

Ill almost always have a good poo soon after and feel like the meal never affected me negatively

Lol good to know

 

[mechka_grizli]

Not sure how this works but apparently it can slow digestion.

http://www.dentalbytes.com/nutrition/calcium-and-phosphorus-requirements/ephedrine-slows-digestive-process.htm

Thoughts?

I read somewhere that it slows gastric emptying as well

 

[Quadzilla99]

Its better to take ephedrine as far away from food as possible: EC stack with or without food? - Bodybuilding.com Forums

See neuron's posts in that thread for why.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Any sympathomimetic will reduce GI motility

 

[RickyBDragon]

Its better to take ephedrine as far away from food as possible: EC stack with or without food? - Bodybuilding.com Forums

See neuron's posts in that thread for why.

Thanks for posting up this thread. I never knew to take EC with only 10-20 mL of water, very interesting read for sure.

 

[Driven2lift]

Thanks for posting up this thread. I never knew to take EC with only 10-20 mL of water, very interesting read for sure.

Same. Been doing that wrong...
Hard to take with a preworkout that needs 10oz. Water...

Also is this slowed digestion over the whole half life of E? Or just if taken too close

 

[rphash49]

"Ephedrines effects, from the lack of insulin, to LPL regulation, revolve around a fasted state.

Taking ephedrine with food, on a full stomach, or within 1 hour of eating is like pissing it down the drain.

ffs, this is why there is 5-10 threads/week about how 'EC DOESN' WORK'"

I thought that was a good post. I dont always do this right. Good info

 

[Driven2lift]

I use it 2 hours from food, before and after, for my preworkout dose.

This should still get the fatburning effects, but will it still be limiting my GI motility by the time I eat?

 

[Chefdeez]

Why would you want to take it close to a meal? For me the best attribute of EC is the appetite suppression. I prefer at least 2 hours before eating.

 

[Driven2lift]

Why would you want to take it close to a meal? For me the best attribute of EC is the appetite suppression. I prefer at least 2 hours before eating.

If that is in regards ti EBF's post, taken closer to a meal would make it somewhat of a GDA. By slowing carb digestion, lowered glycemic impact.

I've never heard of it used like that but leave it to EBF to find every way possible to manipulate his glucose uptake/digestion.

 

[Chefdeez]

If that is in regards ti EBF's post, taken closer to a meal would make it somewhat of a GDA. By slowing carb digestion, lowered glycemic impact. I've never heard of it used like that but leave it to EBF to find every way possible to manipulate his glucose uptake/digestion.

Interesting. Hadn't heard this. I just love the way it makes me forget about foot altogether.

 

[KrisL]

take EC with only 10-20 mL of water

But... but... that's less than half a shot glass. So... thirsty...

 

[chedapalooza]

This is extremely interesting and explains why I've been getting bubble gut lately, my schedule changed so I am eating about 1-2 hours after an EC dose (dosed empty stomach) and it feels like I never digest my food... In the past I have always taken EC away from good by AT LEAST 3 hours Always (following IF) my feed window got pushed back, and I've run into digestive issues.. Interesting stuff here

 

[Driven2lift]

Definitely a factor if dosed close to food

Also with long term use it contributes to insulin resistance, so carby meals can really fill you out

 

[chedapalooza]

Definitely a factor if dosed close to food

Also with long term use it contributes to insulin resistance, so carby meals can really fill you out

Whattt really?! Long term as In what? I've seen the studies showing safety up to 24 weeks. I'm currently in week 13 or 14. I do use a gda prior to meals.

 

[Driven2lift]

Whattt really?! Long term as In what? I've seen the studies showing safety up to 24 weeks. I'm currently in week 13 or 14. I do use a gda prior to meals.

Never came across a specific study with a duration of use but in general it is an effect of beta agonists

 

[Driven2lift]

http://www.nature.com/clpt/journal/v75/n2/abs/clpt2004174a.html

 

[chedapalooza]

http://www.nature.com/clpt/journal/v75/n2/abs/clpt2004174a.html

Well furk.

All I know is that I had blood done in July (8 weeks into EC) and it was done at night around 9 pm after a full day of eating. My last meal had come about 1.5 hour prior and was pretty carb heavy... My glucose was only 80! That's pretty damn good at the end of the day and following a heavy carb meal. I mean, if one uses EC 4-6 months a year with a 6-8 month break... And isn't eating shtty food, what are the real possibilities it causes type 2 diabetes?

 

[Driven2lift]

Well furk. All I know is that I had blood done in July (8 weeks into EC) and it was done at night around 9 pm after a full day of eating. My last meal had come about 1.5 hour prior and was pretty carb heavy... My glucose was only 80! That's pretty damn good at the end of the day and following a heavy carb meal. I mean, if one uses EC 4-6 months a year with a 6-8 month break... And isn't eating shtty food, what are the real possibilities it causes type 2 diabetes?

Oh minimal, in athletic and healthy individuals I wouldn't see it being an issue. Coop said before that he saw no issue with long runs of EC

However it is a factor, and this would mean that outside of a cut it may hinder our hypertrophy goals. Although it does increase nitrogen retention and strength while low carb.

Would be interested on Coops thoughts on EC use in a lean bulk or moderate-high carb diet.

 

[chedapalooza]

Oh minimal, in athletic and healthy individuals I wouldn't see it being an issue. Coop said before that he saw no issue with long runs of EC

However it is a factor, and this would mean that outside of a cut it may hinder our hypertrophy goals. Although it does increase nitrogen retention and strength while low carb.

Would be interested on Coops thoughts on EC use in a lean bulk or moderate-high carb diet.

Well that's how I am utilizing it currently; a lean bulk using carb cycling. Low days are ~150g, high is double that. 4-5 high days with 2-3 low days. Increased fats on low days. My bodyweight has actually stayed the same so it's turned into a solid recomp, and that's why i haven't really increased cals, but ive lost 3 Inches on my waist... I'm a 30 now, I was 33 in July. I shrank a shirt size in my trunk, but I've gained strength and definition, and increased arm size slightly. It's really hitting the "problem" areas, especially since I added started using norcodrene for my caffeine source! Needless to really say, the body composition changes have been quite impressive without any super strict dieting, and a relatively laid back training program (by my standards). I can't even do any cardio besides the recumbent bike due to an ongoing injury. I have no sled to push, or kettle bells to do any weighed carries with, so my overall training intensity and volume has dropped dramatically since I moved in June... And I've only leaned out and hardened up.

 

[mr.cooper69]

EC should work on a bulk. It's obviously not the best way to use it since appetite suppression is where EC really shines, but it does appear to upregulate the b3 receptor longterm, meaning that you can tap into fat stores and "recomp" more easily when using EC in a caloric surplus.

 

[Driven2lift]

Thanks mr.cooper69

Was I on track regarding its effects on insulin resistance?

 

[chedapalooza]

EC should work on a bulk. It's obviously not the best way to use it since appetite suppression is where EC really shines, but it does appear to upregulate the b3 receptor longterm, meaning that you can tap into fat stores and "recomp" more easily when using EC in a caloric surplus.

This is what I was trying to indicate and explain with my results