Supplementation that aids with Ketogenic type diets

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    Supplementation that aids with Ketogenic type diets


    Are there any supplements that aid or complement ketogenic diets?

    I have the basics

    multi
    whey
    fish oils

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    Ras ketones.....
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    Leucine in theory can help speed the onset of ketosis, so would most insulogenic/mimetics.
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    CLA, Sesamin, MCT could compliment CKD diets
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    I think PA sells some new thing for this called KetoForce

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    MCT.
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    coconut oil, l-carn, PL-carn, multi, mint infused fish oil, CLA, and realcheese spray cans of cheese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    coconut oil, l-carn, PL-carn, multi, mint infused fish oil, CLA, and realcheese spray cans of cheese.
    I see what you did there!
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    damn it, your on to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    coconut oil, l-carn, PL-carn, multi, mint infused fish oil, CLA, and realcheese spray cans of cheese.
    Thats all I see :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Ras ketones.....
    Not the same type of ketone that will aid in a ketogenic state.

    Ketone vs. Ketone Body.

    Fructose is a ketone but that wouldn't help in this situation.
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    1) coconut oil
    2) Leucine
    3) CLA
    4) iforce Fish Oil
    5) good MultiV
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    Vitamins A, C, E
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkgreene88 View Post
    1) coconut oil
    2) Leucine
    3) CLA
    4) iforce Fish Oil
    5) good MultiV
    6) bcaa product
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    Recompadro 1 cap 20-30min pre mealsl and AAV2 2 caps 90min post meal

    If you're looking to lean out, OxyElite Pro NF or AF would be a great addition (yohimbe shines on keto diets)

    ModernBCAA+ post workout or sipped Intra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post

    Not the same type of ketone that will aid in a ketogenic state.

    Ketone vs. Ketone Body.

    Fructose is a ketone but that wouldn't help in this situation.
    I think he was targeting the benefits of raspberry ketones.
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    I do faster training w 5g leucine 5g Lysine
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    Lysine? For the immune support or...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    I do faster training w 5g leucine 5g Lysine

    Leucine doesn't give me any energy to go faster. I need either a strong pre workout or a good kick in ass for that!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Lysine? For the immune support or...?
    Ketogenic amino brother

    While doing this and fasted training I actually got so deep kno ketosis my sweat smelt like acetone
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    Ketogenic amino brother

    While doing this and fasted training I actually got so deep kno ketosis my sweat smelt like acetone
    Interesting. Supplementing Lysine preworkout in a fasted state will actually increase circulating ketone levels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Ketogenic amino brother

    While doing this and fasted training I actually got so deep kno ketosis my sweat smelt like acetone
    whatever dude, that was you taking off your finger nail polish
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post

    Leucine doesn't give me any energy to go faster. I need either a strong pre workout or a good kick in ass for that!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wocheezy View Post

    Interesting. Supplementing Lysine preworkout in a fasted state will actually increase circulating ketone levels?
    From my experience using leucine and Lysine with high intensity training. Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post

    whatever dude, that was you taking off your finger nail polish
    Haha honestly the first thing I did was chek for that I was confused as to the smell then I smelt under my shirt and was like holy **** that is coming from me
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    Diet was a normal balance of macros. Imagine if it wasn't. Stack with keto force.


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    Stimulation of mild, sustained ketonemia by medium-chain triacylglycerols in healthy humans: estimated potential contribution to brain energy metabolism
    Courchesne-Loyer, A; Fortier, M; Tremblay-Mercier, J; Chouinard-Watkins, R; Roy, M; Nugent, S; Castellano, CA; Cunnane, SC
    OBJECTIVE: In humans consuming a normal diet, we investigated 1) the capacity of a medium-chain triacylglycerol (MCT) supplement to stimulate and sustain ketonemia, 2) C-β-hydroxybutyrate and C-trioctanoate metabolism, and 3) the theoretical contribution of the degree of ketonemia achieved to brain energy metabolism.
    METHODS: Eight healthy adults (26 1 y old) were given an MCT supplement for 4 wk (4 times/d; total of 20 g/d for 1 wk followed by 30 g/d for 3 wk). Ketones, glucose, triacylglycerols, cholesterol, free fatty acids, and insulin were measured over 8 h during two separate metabolic study days before and after MCT supplementation. Using isotope ratio mass spectroscopy, C-D-β-hydroxybutyrate and C-trioctanoate β-oxidation to CO was measured over 12 h on the pre- and post-MCT metabolic study days.
    RESULTS: On the post-MCT metabolic study day, plasma ketones (β-hydroxybutyrate plus acetoacetate) peaked at 476 μM, with a mean value throughout the study day of 290 μM. Post-MCT, C-trioctanoate β-oxidation was significantly lower 1 to 8 h later but higher 10 to 12 h later. MCT supplementation did not significantly alter C-D-β-hydroxybutyrate oxidation.
    CONCLUSIONS: This MCT supplementation protocol was mildly and safely ketogenic and had no side effects in healthy humans on their regular diet. This degree of ketonemia is estimated to contribute up to 8% to 9% of brain energy metabolism.
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    Certainly interesting study, though the jury is still out based on the existing evidence (heavily conflicting)
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