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    Jack3d Micro is a Pump and Performance beast...

    Its ironic, DMAA jack3d was just "stims" in a bottle and Micro is not "stimmy" enough...People seemto over look the Nitrate, Agmatine, Citrulline combo (some will say the non stim holy grail for pump and performance)...You know the same combo praised in another Pre workout on this board....

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    Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    Jack3d Micro is a Pump and Performance beast...

    Its ironic, DMAA jack3d was just "stims" in a bottle and Micro is not "stimmy" enough...People seemto over look the Nitrate, Agmatine, Citrulline combo (some will say the non stim holy grail for pump and performance)...You know the same combo praised in another Pre workout on this board....

    Fact of the matter, it doesn't matter...Hate just too hate is the norm now...
    I had a few sample packs of jack3d micro and loved it. My only complaint was i got the cherry flavor and I'm not a big fan of cherries lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    Jack3d Micro is a Pump and Performance beast...

    Its ironic, DMAA jack3d was just "stims" in a bottle and Micro is not "stimmy" enough...People seemto over look the Nitrate, Agmatine, Citrulline combo (some will say the non stim holy grail for pump and performance)...You know the same combo praised in another Pre workout on this board....

    Fact of the matter, it doesn't matter...Hate just too hate is the norm now...
    Pumps were alright with micro but let's face it, for the majority of people, taking a stimmed preworkout, we are paying for and expecting the kick from the stims. If not a kick in the energy department then at least a kick in the focus/concentration department. Personally, I just was not a fan of the micro, wasn't what I wanted from a preworkout but it tasted delicious and I'm glad that the product has found plenty of love from those whom swear by it.

    Pump was not bad with micro but calling it a performance beast? Performance is subjective as different people have different views on what performance should be for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Pumps were alright with micro but let's face it, for the majority of people, taking a stimmed preworkout, we are paying for and expecting the kick from the stims. If not a kick in the energy department then at least a kick in the focus/concentration department. Personally, I just was not a fan of the micro, wasn't what I wanted from a preworkout but it tasted delicious and I'm glad that the product has found plenty of love from those whom swear by it.

    Pump was not bad with micro but calling it a performance beast? Performance is subjective as different people have different views on what performance should be for them.
    It can be objectively stated that the combination of performance-targeting ingredients in J3D Micro will improve performance via such ubiquitous metrics as power output, time to failure, repetitions, and energy efficiency. This can be stated because of studies demonstrating this to be true of these ingredients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    Pumps were alright with micro but let's face it, for the majority of people, taking a stimmed preworkout, we are paying for and expecting the kick from the stims. If not a kick in the energy department then at least a kick in the focus/concentration department. Personally, I just was not a fan of the micro, wasn't what I wanted from a preworkout but it tasted delicious and I'm glad that the product has found plenty of love from those whom swear by it.

    Pump was not bad with micro but calling it a performance beast? Performance is subjective as different people have different views on what performance should be for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Pumps were alright with micro but let's face it, for the majority of people, taking a stimmed preworkout, we are paying for and expecting the kick from the stims. If not a kick in the energy department then at least a kick in the focus/concentration department. Personally, I just was not a fan of the micro, wasn't what I wanted from a preworkout but it tasted delicious and I'm glad that the product has found plenty of love from those whom swear by it.

    Pump was not bad with micro but calling it a performance beast? Performance is subjective as different people have different views on what performance should be for them.
    Someone that directly references ad copy in another thread should read the copy. We didn't promise the user crazy energy.

    Ingredients that have a direct effect on performance is not subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    It can be objectively stated that the combination of performance-targeting ingredients in J3D Micro will improve performance via such ubiquitous metrics as power output, time to failure, repetitions, and energy efficiency. This can be stated because of studies demonstrating this to be true of these ingredients.
    So much science talk, but if you put it that way, ok, I would have to agree with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    It can be objectively stated that the combination of performance-targeting ingredients in J3D Micro will improve performance via such ubiquitous metrics as power output, time to failure, repetitions, and energy efficiency. This can be stated because of studies demonstrating this to be true of these ingredients.
    said Eloquently..

    but his response goes back to "Hate just to hate mentality."
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    said Eloquently..

    but his response goes back to "Hate just to hate mentality."
    How so? I stated clearly that it wasn't my cup of tea and also stated clearly that many others swear by it. In no way am I hating on it just to hate on it. Just didn't work for me. I bought a tub and the thing lasted me roughly 5 months or so, why? Because I didn't really like using it that much. Not upset by it, I still consider Super Cissus a quality product.

    Now, if you wanted it to be a hate just to hate on it mentality-type post, I would have just called it the worst preworkout ever put out

    Not saying that though, ha ha. Definitely not saying that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    Personally love micro. Side note that I have been wondering... What is the approximate net worth of some of these companies? From like usplabs to controlled labs and pes. Just curious. (And no I do not have the time/scientific knowledge of no hype and coop/ or drive to start my own company. )
    There will be a huge difference in net worth between USP Labs and PES, unfortunately lol.

    I always wondered if USP Labs would be insulted when people insinuated that we were the same company. They are many, many times bigger than us lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtinsideout View Post
    I had a few sample packs of jack3d micro and loved it. My only complaint was i got the cherry flavor and I'm not a big fan of cherries lol.
    There is a cherry flavour? When I tried it there were only two flavours.

    I might have to try this. I liked Micro, the fruit punch I tried was very tasty as well so tempted to give the cherry a go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    There is a cherry flavour? When I tried it there were only two flavours.

    I might have to try this. I liked Micro, the fruit punch I tried was very tasty as well so tempted to give the cherry a go.
    I got them with an order from bb.com, apparently NP doesn't carry that flavor. Lol I'm sure it was good for cherry but just not for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post

    There will be a huge difference in net worth between USP Labs and PES, unfortunately lol.

    I always wondered if USP Labs would be insulted when people insinuated that we were the same company. They are many, many times bigger than us lol.
    Lol. I know. We could just say "for now" since you guys are moving up in the world! I would like to see the range from companies like you guys. Ds. Controlled labs. Guess ill never know! Haha. Oh well! I really only care about quality and results!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    Lol. I know. We could just say "for now" since you guys are moving up in the world! I would like to see the range from companies like you guys. Ds. Controlled labs. Guess ill never know! Haha. Oh well! I really only care about quality and results!
    Thank you. Fingers crossed.
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    I saw some dude post in a past forum that he took 5 scoops of og jack3d then sipped on a scoop of micro during his workout haha people's these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    There will be a huge difference in net worth between USP Labs and PES, unfortunately lol.I always wondered if USP Labs would be insulted when people insinuated that we were the same company. They are many, many times bigger than us lol.
    Not sure how long PES has been in business but if someone compared the launches of both companies for a three year period...it would be an interesting comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post

    Someone that directly references ad copy in another thread should read the copy. We didn't promise the user crazy energy.

    Ingredients that have a direct effect on performance is not subjective.
    1.5-2 scoops j3d micro + 25mg eph is perfect for me...og was only meh and unfortunately can't tolerate any yohim preWO, so j3d adv, enhanced and quite a few others that are now incorporating yohimbine in their formulas are out for me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    1.5-2 scoops j3d micro + 25mg eph is perfect for me...og was only meh and unfortunately can't tolerate any yohim preWO, so j3d adv, enhanced and quite a few others that are now incorporating yohimbine in their formulas are out for me...
    I can't tolerate pure YHCL but this extract process just melts the fat right off me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    1.5-2 scoops j3d micro + 25mg eph is perfect for me...og was only meh and unfortunately can't tolerate any yohim preWO, so j3d adv, enhanced and quite a few others that are now incorporating yohimbine in their formulas are out for me...
    What's your intolerance issue with yohimbine and which products have you tried? I generally don't respond well to yohimbine either, a couple of caps of straight yohombine on an empty stomach gives me pounding palpitations usually.

    Starting off with one scoop and then two of Jack3D AF I had no such issues.

    The only annoyance to me, and this is kind of silly, is that the sweating from yohimbe & higenamine lasted *too long*. I'd gym up, hit the shower, and a couple hours later be completely sweaty again just sitting around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    The only annoyance to me, and this is kind of silly, is that the sweating from yohimbe & higenamine lasted *too long*. I'd gym up, hit the shower, and a couple hours later be completely sweaty again just sitting around.
    I hear you on this. I finish my workout, have a shower and when I am with my next client I still feel myself sweating profusely lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post

    There is a cherry flavour? When I tried it there were only two flavours.

    I might have to try this. I liked Micro, the fruit punch I tried was very tasty as well so tempted to give the cherry a go.
    I've had FP, Lemon Lime, and Blue Raspberry. But I've never seen a cherry flavor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    I've had FP, Lemon Lime, and Blue Raspberry. But I've never seen a cherry flavor...

    The Sour Cherry flavor is exclusive to a certain site. I haven't tried it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    What's your intolerance issue with yohimbine and which products have you tried? I generally don't respond well to yohimbine either, a couple of caps of straight yohombine on an empty stomach gives me pounding palpitations usually.

    Starting off with one scoop and then two of Jack3D AF I had no such issues.

    The only annoyance to me, and this is kind of silly, is that the sweating from yohimbe & higenamine lasted *too long*. I'd gym up, hit the shower, and a couple hours later be completely sweaty again just sitting around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    The Sour Cherry flavor is exclusive to a certain site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    Jack3d Micro is a Pump and Performance beast...

    Its ironic, DMAA jack3d was just "stims" in a bottle and Micro is not "stimmy" enough...People seemto over look the Nitrate, Agmatine, Citrulline combo (some will say the non stim holy grail for pump and performance)...You know the same combo praised in another Pre workout on this board....

    Fact of the matter, it doesn't matter...Hate just too hate is the norm now...
    Jack3d Micro is my fav pre workout of all time. srs never failed me always feel happy on it cant get enough of those pumps, nice clean controlled energy. i dont care what people say about it, for me personally it just what im loooking for in a pre workout. accept for leg day, i use craze since thats more endurance and im not going for pumps as much and need more stims

    edit: oh yeah and i forgot to say i love the flavors so much omg, fruit punch is amazing, and lemon lime is really good. but if you would be so kind PLEASE MAKE A GRAPE FLAVOUR ) that would be epic i loved grape bubble gum bcca's you gotta make a grape bubble gum jacked micro
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post

    What's your intolerance issue with yohimbine and which products have you tried? I generally don't respond well to yohimbine either, a couple of caps of straight yohombine on an empty stomach gives me pounding palpitations usually.

    Starting off with one scoop and then two of Jack3D AF I had no such issues.

    The only annoyance to me, and this is kind of silly, is that the sweating from yohimbe & higenamine lasted *too long*. I'd gym up, hit the shower, and a couple hours later be completely sweaty again just sitting around.
    Any amt of any form jacks with my BP and HR, esp if I use anywhere near a workout...I've experimented with various forms of y since '96, bc I love the theory of it targeting love handles, lower back and hips which is where I carry most of my fat, and they will make my lower body sweat every time...more recent products I've tried have been enhanced, oep (og), AT2, powdered Oep and a variety of samples of various supps with y in them...I will generally use them at one dose/day in the early afternoon...
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