Nitric oXide Vascularity

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by sharperunner View Post
    I think if the O.P. was looking for that kind of specificity, they're original post would have been a indicative of that. I read it as he was looking for a general "pump" producing product.
    Anyway, I've tried Dpol, APS creatine nitrates and iSatori PWR. Gotta say that all the nitrate products have been great. The addition of beta alanine in the preworkouts give them a nice 1-2 punch
    Beta Alanine is not innate of pre-workout time constraints and you would've felt the added benefits from BA if taken daily at a different time too...just my .02

    Anyhow it still hurts me to see that he mentions NO and he takes it just mean PUMP...I mean pump is just that, blood engorging the muscles and/or veins due to tension or any vasodilating agent...heck even just a workout gives a pump T_T!!! I cannot believe how NO gets thrown around just like that...
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  2. All save you money OP skip the pump products and do a few high rep sets of bicep curls and Tricep extensions boom pump
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post

    No , Erase has nothing to do with it , it's an AI , AnaBeta (both) and Versa-1 are anabolics...

    It breaks my heart to see that people post about nitrates without even knowing what they are! (I mean OP) or that they do not know all the great benefits they pose...even NO optimizers...but I mean...an AI!?

    Low body fat levels on it's own will help mere "vascularity" but being vascular does not equate either more gains or more power!! (Note I said BEING vascular , not having greater vasodilation , which does indeed help peak power output)
    So every log about erase or erase pro that mentioned an increase in vascularity is wrong.... weird.

    Yes I know you know ur stuff celoraza but if people report more vascularity when taking a single product... would we not agree on that?
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Beta Alanine is not innate of pre-workout time constraints and you would've felt the added benefits from BA if taken daily at a different time too...just my .02

    Anyhow it still hurts me to see that he mentions NO and he takes it just mean PUMP...I mean pump is just that, blood engorging the muscles and/or veins due to tension or any vasodilating agent...heck even just a workout gives a pump T_T!!! I cannot believe how NO gets thrown around just like that...
    im basing my opinion on how the og question was posted, looking for 24/7 veins, tells me that basic pump products are being referenced as NO production and considering plasma jet was mentioned.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post

    im basing my opinion on how the og question was posted, looking for 24/7 veins, tells me that basic pump products are being referenced as NO production and considering plasma jet was mentioned.
    I'm gonna agree with this.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    So every log about erase or erase pro that mentioned an increase in vascularity is wrong.... weird.

    Yes I know you know ur stuff celoraza but if people report more vascularity when taking a single product... would we not agree on that?
    My friend I do agree that it will innately help to be MORE VASCULAR , being that it dries you out and it usually used in cuts, alas lower body fat levels and it is thus easier to notice the roadwork vascularity that a strenous workout (or relaxed body in the case of lower BF levels) will possess.

    I adore Erase, it gives that dry and lean look, hence the veins, however I would like to hear if even Josh (Natty) or Ryan (Rodja) think that Erase enhances vasodilation itself.
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  7. I'm mainly referring to the Beta-alanine tingles along with the ensuing vein popping feel i get with nitrates. Its a nice combo to get my workout started.
    You're not wrong about a few suggestions though. I understand the erase reference in the fact that it does provide that drying out effect. I definitely feel more vascular when running it.

  8. Dang, by the time i finish putting thought into my next post, 12 other guys have chimed in with the things that are floating in my brain.

  9. Wheres my popcorn... interesting stuff

  10. Quote Originally Posted by sharperunner View Post
    I'm mainly referring to the Beta-alanine tingles along with the ensuing vein popping feel i get with nitrates. Its a nice combo to get my workout started.
    You're not wrong about a few suggestions though. I understand the erase reference in the fact that it does provide that drying out effect. I definitely feel more vascular when running it.
    I do too, but I do feel it has to do more with the low estrogen and low water retention it causes, making it easier to notice veins and yielding that dry look. However I have not felt any difference in vasodilation with it...

    But alas like you all mentioned...he just wants aesthetics out of this, I think I am getting the gist of it...he wants to be "veiny" (vascular) just for looks, so the suggestions you all made, seem more than appropriate then , and the ones I did have more to do with Vasodilation , Peak Power Output , longer endurance and a temporary (depending on BF levels) vascular look.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    I do too, but I do feel it has to do more with the low estrogen and low water retention it causes, making it easier to notice veins and yielding that dry look. However I have not felt any difference in vasodilation with it...

    But alas like you all mentioned...he just wants aesthetics out of this, I think I am getting the gist of it...he wants to be "veiny" (vascular) just for looks, so the suggestions you all made, seem more than appropriate then , and the ones I did have more to do with Vasodilation , Peak Power Output , longer endurance and a temporary (depending on BF levels) vascular look.
    unfortunately most do not have the mindset as you do.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Bamski View Post
    Wheres my popcorn... interesting stuff
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
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  15. No one's mentioned the Ultimate Warrior method yet? Not a supplement, i know, but still a valid show of badassery especially when combined with face paint and pink underwear

  16. Warrior is awesome! Met him in june.
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  18. versa 1


    can you send me a link to buy versa 1

  19. I'm thinking about getting primal pump but idk if it will do any good :-/

  20. Quote Originally Posted by MMGtheSERB View Post
    can you send me a link to buy versa 1
    It'll be available for Inner Circle release Jan 8th. That's the only time it will be for a few months, it's a special run we at USPlabs do with new products. You can sign up for the Inner Circle at www.versa-1.com. It's free and you don have to worry about spam. You'll get an email notifying you when it's available. If you miss out, it will probably be 3-4months before it'll be at retailers.

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  21. alright thanks and is it better than plasma jet?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by MMGtheSERB View Post
    alright thanks and is it better than plasma jet?
    It's an apples to oranges as far as comparison.

    I can say I've never seen people report the gains on plasma jet that even begin to sniff those of Versa-1.
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  23. looks like versa 1 will be huge, better get it soon before they ban it or some **** haha it seems like it's a pretty solid product

  24. Cesar, I think you got too worked up over semantics lol.

    Yes, the product categories are different but people made recommendations on the part of his post that said "pumps 24/7".

    There might have been a misunderstanding along the line but you need to chill out lol.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Cesar, I think you got too worked up over semantics lol.

    Yes, the product categories are different but people made recommendations on the part of his post that said "pumps 24/7".

    There might have been a misunderstanding along the line but you need to chill out lol.


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  26. Doesn't swoll-n have sodium nitrate??

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Kinggrommet View Post
    Doesn't swoll-n have sodium nitrate??
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Cesar, I think you got too worked up over semantics lol.

    Yes, the product categories are different but people made recommendations on the part of his post that said "pumps 24/7".

    There might have been a misunderstanding along the line but you need to chill out lol.
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  29. he wants a product that will give him a pump like this
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