Primordial Performance raided by FDA
- 10-31-2012, 08:59 PM
- 10-31-2012, 09:03 PM
Originally Posted by Patuba
10-31-2012, 09:15 PM
10-31-2012, 09:22 PM
10-31-2012, 09:25 PM
Where do you live? The government does what they want plain and simple.Originally Posted by JD261985
That raises another valid point tho, bath salts and salvia have been legal for years. These substances ARE killing people and instead of fighting that war, they go after PP for modified DHEA. Rx companies must be behind this...
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10-31-2012, 09:49 PM
10-31-2012, 10:15 PM
I was merely trying to keep high hopes...I'm not naive. For the love of God if you knew me you wouldn't say that but I WANT TO BELIEVE (badly) that everything will be sorted out. I guess that's my final two cents on the issue
10-31-2012, 10:30 PM
Guys relax the FDA did what they had to do so they can all get super jacked of pp products and go fight the Mexican drug cartel so lets ease up on them
10-31-2012, 10:43 PM
Wow good point...the RX companies paying the FDA to raid them makes sense...RX companies want to make money from androgel 1.62 and other trt products they understand there is money to be made in testosteroneOriginally Posted by Valdez
11-01-2012, 12:27 AM
Damn... And I thought I was having a $hitty month.
Sorry does not describe how I feel for the folks at PP. I'm rather speechless that, in a country that touts innovation, public/private rights and freedoms, and holds it's own constitution as a living document that such an act has happened. Then again, look at all the contradictions that have occurred since it's inception.
Hope things turn around for everyone quickly. Kind of feeling like I've lost a trustworthy friend after reading all this.
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11-01-2012, 12:34 AM
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11-01-2012, 12:47 AM
I always thought it was guilty til proven innocent.
Hence the initial raid.
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11-01-2012, 12:58 AM
This makes me sad. I just recently discovered PP and fell in love with them. I was just about to order a supply of dermatherm. Might as well order a shirt so I can keep the memory of this great company alive.
11-01-2012, 01:39 AM
11-01-2012, 10:34 AM
What is among the most disconcerting things about this, for me, is that I specifically remember Eric, upon launch of the AndroSeries, boldly declaring, "We'll have our position papers ready" and fight them head on. I'm partially paraphrasing, but I thought that with the introduction of the AndroSeries came a fervor for defending its DSHEA compliance.
I realize this is no easy feat. You're dealing with runaway, bureaucratic, executive-level agencies that "enforce policy," as opposed to following laws. Policy can be stretched beyond the scope of the Constitution and the guarantees of due process.
I am intrigued by Patrick Arnold's statement that, "They can't do that." I'd love to hear more about why they can't as this whole thing is intriguing to me, but still not unexpected.
I hypothesized that it was the blatant, honest marketing of the products that got them into a pickle. Liberal use of the word "steroids," comparison to injectable testosterone and equivalency calculations and claims that were far too specific likely exacerbated this action. I'm not so sure someone didn't rat on them, either.
The absence of a cease and desist letter is troubling to me as well. Though I am no attorney, this whole process seems to have run afoul of FDA's standard practices.
What a mess. It truly sinks my heart to think about.
11-01-2012, 10:49 AM
Prescription drug companies are some of the biggest lobbyists in Washington, this is no coincidence, founding fathers are rolling their graves, fuock big govt
11-01-2012, 11:17 AM
11-01-2012, 12:08 PM
companies need to retain attorneys. because the legal system is an entity whose players are attorneys. us non attorney people have no skin in there game. You are a fool if you think u understand the law and are not an attorney.
When **** goes down it is way way beyond us regular folk to cope with. I try telling peeps this all the time. Get a good attorney. Protect urself
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11-01-2012, 01:59 PM
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and deals are made by attorneys making deals with attorneys.
attorneys know one another. they have cases over the years where they have to confront one another. its totally like politics. tit for tat.
they get together and they bargain. if you have a good attorney with pull and influence he will get u a deal.
people that think that we have an objective system that is magically dictated by the "laws" live in a fairyland. Laws are amibiguous. And the legal system is subjective
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