Primordial Performance raided by FDA

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    When you market your products as safe steroids, add long acting esters to mimmic what pharmaceutical companies are selling, that's going to attract attention for sure.

    It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.
    The esters were not to mimic pharma-compounds. The intended effect of the ester usage was completely different than what is achieved by phama with an ester attached to an injected compound. The only comparison in terms of effect would be Andriol, which I am not sure if it is even on the market anymore (but it could be).
    Just inject.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    The esters were not to mimic pharma-compounds. The intended effect of the ester usage was completely different than what is achieved by phama with an ester attached to an injected compound. The only comparison in terms of effect would be Andriol, which I am not sure if it is even on the market anymore (but it could be).
    Andriol is, and is used.
    I'm just saying from a pharma point of view, it may cut into their business, or they may want it for themselves.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I could go around to many different companies currently offering prohormones, and show you ad copy comparing the effects to AAS as well. First off hand would be Halo For Her "Comparable to Oxandrolone/Anavar"
    I agree, but only partially. I'm not putting Eric down or attacking him, but his marketing was way beyond any other company's marketing in brutal honesty, truth and comparison to illegal anabolic steroids. He not only said "comparable to" x, y, or z, but he provided calculations of exactly how it compared, used language like "safe steroids" and even suggested it might compete with TRT.

    I respect your zeal to defend the company. I'm as heartbroken as anyone is about it and salty at the government for what they did, but his marketing was clearly too targeted and specific. You can't do that in this game and get away with it long term.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Freepress View Post
    I agree, but only partially. I'm not putting Eric down or attacking him, but his marketing was way beyond any other company's marketing in brutal honesty, truth and comparison to illegal anabolic steroids. He not only said "comparable to" x, y, or z, but he provided calculations of exactly how it compared, used language like "safe steroids" and even suggested it might compete with TRT.

    I respect your zeal to defend the company. I'm as heartbroken as anyone is about it and salty at the government for what they did, but his marketing was clearly too targeted and specific. You can't do that in this game and get away with it long term.
    Oh I am not playing defense, I have stated before that I wasn't exactly the biggest fan of the marketing. I am just saying it is far from the shock value people make it out to be. Earlier I presented the example of "Legal Safe Steroids" with a picture of a doctor in a lab coat, in ads that have been in every muscle mag since '95.

    Personally, if I were selling prohormones, I wouldn't label them ****. The only thing the label would say is:

    H2S Company presents: HaloPower
    Disclaimer: This powder may work as an experimental paint thinner, and is in no way a dietary supplement. It is compressed into pills simply for shipping and should be broken up before applying to paint.

    Maybe on the back I would have a picture of Novitzky injecting tren.
    Just inject.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Oh I am not playing defense, I have stated before that I wasn't exactly the biggest fan of the marketing. I am just saying it is far from the shock value people make it out to be. Earlier I presented the example of "Legal Safe Steroids" with a picture of a doctor in a lab coat, in ads that have been in every muscle mag since '95.
    Tell that to the FDA
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Oh I am not playing defense, I have stated before that I wasn't exactly the biggest fan of the marketing. I am just saying it is far from the shock value people make it out to be. Earlier I presented the example of "Legal Safe Steroids" with a picture of a doctor in a lab coat, in ads that have been in every muscle mag since '95.

    Personally, if I were selling prohormones, I wouldn't label them ****. The only thing the label would say is:

    H2S Company presents: HaloPower
    Disclaimer: This powder may work as an experimental paint thinner, and is in no way a dietary supplement. It is compressed into pills simply for shipping and should be broken up before applying to paint.

    Maybe on the back I would have a picture of Novitzky injecting tren.
    I would err... use that paint thinner for cleaning my brush...
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  7. Unfortunately this thread has gotten derailed again. I guess i will get it back to the important subject:
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  9. haha mw1. You crack me up.

    @DangerDave -- haha! I was thinking something along those lines too.
    I'm Back...

  10. I like creatine.

  11. I had hoped that last week's incident would be the last time I defecated myself at school.

  12. Wait, what?!

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  14. Quote Originally Posted by mw1
    <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70 240"/>
    Thank you.
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    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  15. Damn that's crazy good job finding the story.

    Theres another story floating around about two guys who too M-Drol or something like that a few years back and went to the hospital with damn near liver failure.
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    you dont remember the Havoc ****? where the kid took like, 5 months straight of havoc and then ended up needing a liver transplant?

    that was one of the first big stories i remember seeing way back when
    Are you talking about the kid that posted on youtube or someone posted it on youtube? That guy took SD...unless it was another story, it was SD to my memory.
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