USPlabs "Patented Anabolic" R&D -- Alpha Testing Q/A --

[Sourdough]

I'm curious, what is your secondary gain for defending a bottle full of pills? Surely they can defend themselves in efficacy, or through USP labs marketing bombardment?

Your stating that testers are the victim of a placebo run. I was one of the testers. I'm stating my effects were not that of a placebo run. Bottom line.

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[squatting]

Do you have to train like a beast for this product to work or training like a human being would suffice ?

[Mack411]

Do you have to train like a beast for this product to work or training like a human being would suffice ?

Why would you ever want to train like a human?

[Sourdough]

I wrote a science based article and you have subjective history littered with broscience ("deeerp it wasn't placebo cuz i said it wasn't").

I'd love to read it.

Internet credentials don't make you the absolute answer to all discussions either.

At least I've spent some time on these boards sharing my knowledge and anecdotal feedback. It's down to my word versus yours until all the studies are accumulated and made available.

BTW.... Hostility has now been introduced to the conversation with your condescending insults. Congratulate yourself.

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[Sourdough]

You can't determine your own susceptibility to the placebo effect.

Holy ****, it feels like I'm trying to teach a poptart quantum physics.

Bottom line.

Susceptibility to a neurological placebo effect and definitive quantifiable physiological responses beyond that which placebo(sugar/water usually) can provide are 2 different things.

It is impossible for sugar water in combination with resistance weight training and cardio to provide me with as dramatic results as which I achieved. I've been weight training naturally and supplemented for over 11 years and understand what my body is capable of doing under which circumstances.

Therefore I can determine whether or not my end physiological results were or were not that of a placebo run.


Susceptibility to being mind facked and bodies defying natural science are 2 different things.

the pop tart comment was hilarious.

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[hawaiianhulk]

Susceptibility to a neurological placebo effect and definitive quantifiable physiological responses beyond that which placebo(sugar/water usually) can provide are 2 different things.

It is impossible for sugar water in combination with resistance weight training and cardio to provide me with as dramatic results as which I achieved. I've been weight training naturally and supplemented for over 11 years and understand what my body is capable of doing under which circumstances.

Therefore I can determine whether or not my end physiological results were or were not that of a placebo run.

Susceptibility to being mind facked and bodies defying natural science are 2 different things.

the pop tart comment was hilarious.

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Mind facked? Hahahahahahaha

[Royd The Noyd]

We will publish the animal studies (90 day study in Rats and Rabbits is not cheap) and in the middle of recruiting subjects for a study at Memphis. before release, we conducted a pilot study on safety markers (as discussed in the write up).

Companies search available (as we do) to develop a product, but in this case, we are creating the research. There are pros and cons to it.

Pro- we are the first and with the patent, we can liscense it out..
Cons- Innovation doesn't come without attacks from the competition....it's the nature of the industry.

Is the patent complete? Or just filed?

Also nobody wants the license to sell it.

[Drakee]

Susceptibility to a neurological placebo effect and definitive quantifiable physiological responses beyond that which placebo(sugar/water usually) can provide are 2 different things.

It is impossible for sugar water in combination with resistance weight training and cardio to provide me with as dramatic results as which I achieved. I've been weight training naturally and supplemented for over 11 years and understand what my body is capable of doing under which circumstances.

Therefore I can determine whether or not my end physiological results were or were not that of a placebo run.


Susceptibility to being mind facked and bodies defying natural science are 2 different things.

the pop tart comment was hilarious.

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if you believe enough that something is going to happen you can trick your body. Placebo. And its very real.

For example if you believe youre taking a fat burner that HAS to work because it has awesome reviews, and you truly believe in it but someone you ended up with sugar pill. You would probably still lose fat because you believe it so much and visualize yourself losing fat. Pretty crazy

[USPlabsRep]

if you believe enough that something is going to happen you can trick your body. Placebo. And its very real.

For example if you believe youre taking a fat burner that HAS to work because it has awesome reviews, and you truly believe in it but someone you ended up with sugar pill. You would probably still lose fat because you believe it so much and visualize yourself losing fat. Pretty crazy

They didn't know what to expect. We didn't make claims. We just handed it out and said take it...

[mr.cooper69]

Where did iron fists posts go? Objective discussion and a disagreement of viewpoints should not be grounds for deletion. I just got here and am reading a broken convo lol.

Anecdotally, I did notice transient bouts of almost unbearable sweating when combined with caffeine in a fasted state. That, and nitrate-esque vascularity, were the two most prominent effects for me (the citocholine may explain the erections). I'd like to get iron fists take on these effects and possible causes. Vascularity observations could be placebo or subject's bias, but the intense rise in body heat (with sweating and even some nausea) was only present when I took this product fasted, and it occurred without fail when doing so.

[squatting]

Where did iron fists posts go? Objective discussion and a disagreement of viewpoints should not be grounds for deletion. I just got here and am reading a broken convo lol.

Anecdotally, I did notice transient bouts of almost unbearable sweating when combined with caffeine in a fasted state. That, and nitrate-esque vascularity, were the two most prominent effects for me (the citocholine may explain the erections). I'd like to get iron fists take on these effects and possible causes. Vascularity observations could be placebo or subject's bias, but the intense rise in body heat (with sweating and even some nausea) was only present when I took this product fasted, and it occurred without fail when doing so.

Intense rise in body heat and Nausea ? Ill pass.

Sucks they deleted dudes post tho shows the politics sides of the game

[mr.cooper69]

Intense rise in body heat and Nausea ? Ill pass.

Sucks they deleted dudes post tho shows the politics sides of the game

Some may view those as positives (thermogenesis and appetite suppression). It wasn't unpleasant because the effect lasted only a matter of minutes before I could proceed with my workout.

[squatting]

Some may view those as positives (thermogenesis and appetite suppression). It wasn't unpleasant because the effect lasted only a matter of minutes before I could proceed with my workout.

Sounds like a fever to me man hahaha

Real talk tho I don't like to take fairly new mystery ingredients main reason why I'm not buying it has nothing to do with your comment I was just joking

[mr.cooper69]

Sounds like a fever to me man hahaha

Lol! I'm just after the "why?" as usual so I hope usplabs or iron fist can chime in because my ability to dissect aegeline is limited by the present data.

[R1balla]

Sounds like a fever to me man hahaha

Real talk tho I don't like to take fairly new mystery ingredients main reason why I'm not buying it has nothing to do with your comment I was just joking

completely understand.

[tigerbunny]

Trace Amine Associated Receptor (TAAR)

so, I googled that and read some big long thing that said that specifcally the taar1 receptor was involved with effects of lots of PEA type drugs and is affected by octopamine. I'm not knowledable to draw too much more of a conclusion than that but I feel like that entire side of this conversation is missing here.

Edit: here iss the source I read.

htt p://m.molpharm.aspetjournals .org/content/76/2/229.full

[jswain34]

How do I use?

What supplements can't I use with the Patented anabolic?
Do not use any other ergogenic supplements like Compound 20, Test Powder, PRIME, or any supplements in the ergogenic category.

What supplements can I use?
We URGE you to stack with your pre-workout or thermogenic of choice. If you're using both a pre-workout and a thermogenic; ON workout days stack with pre-workout and on off days stack with thermogenic.

Was this for beta testers only?

Edit: didn't mean to post in this thread but I guess it could get answered here too

[Distilled Water]

Was this for beta testers only?

Edit: didn't mean to post in this thread but I guess it could get answered here too

Yes, beta-testers only. There are a few threads of persons stacking versa-1 with other usplabs supps!

[traiford09]

This is my first time running an anabolic should I stick to one pill a day with my thermo or maybe two?

[Distilled Water]

This is my first time running an anabolic should I stick to one pill a day with my thermo or maybe two?

1cap of versa-1 per day will deliver awesome results! I do not recommend doing any more than that.

Take it with your thermo in the morning or pre-workout on training days.