USPlabs "Patented Anabolic" R&D -- Alpha Testing Q/A --

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Double-blind study?. Would be cool if you gave half the testers placebo just to see how this all played out.
    Funny how I was thinking they are actually doing that lol
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  2. What is going to be the projected cost of this?

    How long will you be able to cycle this?

    Can creatine be used with this also?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone
    Double-blind study?. Would be cool if you gave half the testers placebo just to see how this all played out.
    That would be smart!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by enhanced View Post
    First question: with or without food? Fats?
    In borobulkers excitement, he cut the use instructionsshort.

    finding the use amount is always a process with anythingnew. When I first started experimenting with the compound, I started by onlyusing 20mgs and working my way up. I have 15 bottles left over at 2 caps aserving. Alpha testing will not stop at15 bottles. I recently received a new Kilogram and sent it to our manufacture.He will cap it up into a 1 cap serving size instead of two cap serving size inorder to stay consistent with Alpha testing.

    You know how it goes around here. The two cap serving sizewas stronger than the one cap serving size.

    With that said, the instructions for use is ONE capsule once a day with or without food. We recommend use in the morning on off days and on workout days use 30-60 minutes before exercise.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Double-blind study?. Would be cool if you gave half the testers placebo just to see how this all played out.
    That would suck for the placebo tester...
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    alpha t2 and oep stack ok to run with this?

    More then anything, is this anabolic enough to stave off catabolism while running the full dose of both(2/2 2times ed)?


    Is CissusRx and nightly 1-carboxy ok to use?


    Is Gda use ok like yellow gold and pslin copy products?

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    In the Q&A, we urge use with Pre workout or thermogenic of choice.

    All GDAs should not be used during testing (A GDA formulated correctly is anabolic).

    Cissus at a lower dose is ok, anything over 6 caps should be avoided due to the anabolic effect.

    1-carboxy only at night is ok...

  7. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Very interested, most significantly because there are no purported effects that have been "inceptioned" into testers for dat placebo effect . Seriously, kudos USPlabs and I'm looking forward to this product's feedback.
    Forgot to mention, it will make you cooper smart...

  8. Quote Originally Posted by USPowders

    That would suck for the placebo tester...
    Definitly would. I would be very disappointed lol

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Onceyougojack View Post
    Two caps it looks like

    Is there a hardcore dosing like with prime after tolerance is assessed?
    Alpha Testers will only receive 30 capsules for once a day serving.

  10. Disgonbgud.

    Interested.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by USPowders View Post
    That would suck for the placebo tester...
    Not necessarily, hence the term "blind"....I'd really like to see a supplement company have a double blind study.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone
    Double-blind study?. Would be cool if you gave half the testers placebo just to see how this all played out.
    That would be smart!

  13. It wouldn't suck if it was a double blind crossover... then everyone gets the chance to try it or not...they just don't know which is which... still would take forever.I more then tried as long considering there is almost always a wash out period in between phases.

    Double blind means no one knows which they are in(placebo/active), tester and observer, it's not recorded till after the fact when markings are matched up our whatever method of distinguishing was used is revealed and the data is then sorted into the different sections.

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  14. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Not necessarily, hence the term "blind"....I'd really like to see a supplement company have a double blind study.
    It's impossible to have a double-blind study since the investigators (the one gauging the effects of the compound) are also the subjects. It can be single-blind at best.

  15. This better be good with all this good talk.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    It's impossible to have a double-blind study since the investigators (the one gauging the effects of the compound) are also the subjects. It can be single-blind at best.
    as if i wasn't enough of a paranoid parrot as to worry if I am getting the real one...now I have been Coop-ceptioned into thinking we all get candy pills...grrrr
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by USPowders

    In borobulkers excitement, he cut the use instructionsshort.

    finding the use amount is always a process with anythingnew. When I first started experimenting with the compound, I started by onlyusing 20mgs and working my way up. I have 15 bottles left over at 2 caps aserving. Alpha testing will not stop at15 bottles. I recently received a new Kilogram and sent it to our manufacture.He will cap it up into a 1 cap serving size instead of two cap serving size inorder to stay consistent with Alpha testing.

    You know how it goes around here. The two cap serving sizewas stronger than the one cap serving size.

    With that said, the instructions for use is ONE capsule once a day with or without food. We recommend use in the morning on off days and on workout days use 30-60 minutes before exercise.
    Quote Originally Posted by USPowders

    Alpha Testers will only receive 30 capsules for once a day serving.
    Soooo... I'm confused....

    15 bottles left at the 2 cap dose... 15 tester positions...

    New kilo made into 1 cap doses. New dosing directions laid out for doses... then the notification testers will receive only 30 caps....


    Sooo... are the original 15 testers getting the 2 pill dosed bottles and future testers getting one cap doses or is everyone getting one cap dosed bottles?

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  18. Why can't this be taken with any other ergogenics? It will only be a little time until the threads start coming out--"With what can I stack 'Patented Anabolic'"

  19. Quote Originally Posted by domore
    Why can't this be taken with any other ergogenics? It will only be a little time until the threads start coming out--"With what can I stack 'Patented Anabolic'"
    i don't see why this is even an issue...the point is to make sure the stuff works.

    I absolutely HATE beta/alpha tester logs with a million other similar products stacked alongside... the ability to distinguish the difference or direct effects really isn't as easy to do amongst these products as guys try to claim.... Just an excuse to throw another free product into their supp junkie lifestyle.(i too am a supp junkie, but i don't test like that, it's not fair to the product, company and public following the log regardless of what's "allowed")

    People can start exploring what to stack with it once they know how it acts on its own first and can make educated stacking formulations.

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  20. Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    Why can't this be taken with any other ergogenics? It will only be a little time until the threads start coming out--"With what can I stack 'Patented Anabolic'"
    To make sure it works on it's own.

    Reviews on stacks will come afterwards, reviews on it solo are more important.
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  21. I wanna bet that once it is out there will be a "big spender" here who will do:

    "Super transformation contest log with USP Anabolic/AnaBeta Elite/ Erase Pro/X-Factor/ Insert more expensive supplements here because I am only stacking in the hope to change my body without changing my diet or training properly...because money can buy this! Of course...(unsponsored)"

    No hate against any of the supps mentioned lol I love em all (and will try USP Anabolic) , just funny how a new product comes out and people think stacking it all together makes it always better without checking basics first.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    This better be good with all this good talk.
    The cool thing is though theres hardly any talk. All they have said so far is here is a product. Tell us what you think. I like that style
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    I wanna bet that once it is out there will be a "big spender" here who will do:

    "Super transformation contest log with USP Anabolic/AnaBeta Elite/ Erase Pro/X-Factor/ Insert more expensive supplements here because I am only stacking in the hope to change my body without changing my diet or training properly...because money can buy this! Of course...(unsponsored)"

    No hate against any of the supps mentioned lol I love em all (and will try USP Anabolic) , just funny how a new product comes out and people think stacking it all together makes it always better without checking basics first.
    Take out the X Factor and I will give it a go lol.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    To make sure it works on it's own.

    Reviews on stacks will come afterwards, reviews on it solo are more important.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    i don't see why this is even an issue...the point is to make sure the stuff works.

    I absolutely HATE beta/alpha tester logs with a million other similar products stacked alongside... the ability to distinguish the difference or direct effects really isn't as easy to do amongst these products as guys try to claim.... Just an excuse to throw another free product into their supp junkie lifestyle.(i too am a supp junkie, but i don't test like that, it's not fair to the product, company and public following the log regardless of what's "allowed")

    People can start exploring what to stack with it once they know how it acts on its own first and can make educated stacking formulations.

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    Time out...

    Are those guidelines for the testers or for the future product? I made the post under the assumption that those were guidelines that would be released when the product is released. With that said, I understand why a product is tested on it's own. I have been involved in different research opportunities and I completely understand the importance of controlled variables.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster

    The cool thing is though theres hardly any talk. All they have said so far is here is a product. Tell us what you think. I like that style
    Lol,i was thinking the same thing...especially for a uspl product.

    I tend to like most their products but many of their campaigns straight from testing have been super flamboyant.

    This on the inter hand had been one of the most minimalistic approaches I've seen for most any company...makes me think it's gonna be good.

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