USPlabs "Patented Anabolic" R&D -- Alpha Testing Q/A --

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    It's impossible to have a double-blind study since the investigators (the one gauging the effects of the compound) are also the subjects. It can be single-blind at best.
    as if i wasn't enough of a paranoid parrot as to worry if I am getting the real one...now I have been Coop-ceptioned into thinking we all get candy pills...grrrr
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by USPowders

    In borobulkers excitement, he cut the use instructionsshort.

    finding the use amount is always a process with anythingnew. When I first started experimenting with the compound, I started by onlyusing 20mgs and working my way up. I have 15 bottles left over at 2 caps aserving. Alpha testing will not stop at15 bottles. I recently received a new Kilogram and sent it to our manufacture.He will cap it up into a 1 cap serving size instead of two cap serving size inorder to stay consistent with Alpha testing.

    You know how it goes around here. The two cap serving sizewas stronger than the one cap serving size.

    With that said, the instructions for use is ONE capsule once a day with or without food. We recommend use in the morning on off days and on workout days use 30-60 minutes before exercise.
    Quote Originally Posted by USPowders

    Alpha Testers will only receive 30 capsules for once a day serving.
    Soooo... I'm confused....

    15 bottles left at the 2 cap dose... 15 tester positions...

    New kilo made into 1 cap doses. New dosing directions laid out for doses... then the notification testers will receive only 30 caps....


    Sooo... are the original 15 testers getting the 2 pill dosed bottles and future testers getting one cap doses or is everyone getting one cap dosed bottles?

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  3. Why can't this be taken with any other ergogenics? It will only be a little time until the threads start coming out--"With what can I stack 'Patented Anabolic'"
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by domore
    Why can't this be taken with any other ergogenics? It will only be a little time until the threads start coming out--"With what can I stack 'Patented Anabolic'"
    i don't see why this is even an issue...the point is to make sure the stuff works.

    I absolutely HATE beta/alpha tester logs with a million other similar products stacked alongside... the ability to distinguish the difference or direct effects really isn't as easy to do amongst these products as guys try to claim.... Just an excuse to throw another free product into their supp junkie lifestyle.(i too am a supp junkie, but i don't test like that, it's not fair to the product, company and public following the log regardless of what's "allowed")

    People can start exploring what to stack with it once they know how it acts on its own first and can make educated stacking formulations.

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    Why can't this be taken with any other ergogenics? It will only be a little time until the threads start coming out--"With what can I stack 'Patented Anabolic'"
    To make sure it works on it's own.

    Reviews on stacks will come afterwards, reviews on it solo are more important.
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  6. I wanna bet that once it is out there will be a "big spender" here who will do:

    "Super transformation contest log with USP Anabolic/AnaBeta Elite/ Erase Pro/X-Factor/ Insert more expensive supplements here because I am only stacking in the hope to change my body without changing my diet or training properly...because money can buy this! Of course...(unsponsored)"

    No hate against any of the supps mentioned lol I love em all (and will try USP Anabolic) , just funny how a new product comes out and people think stacking it all together makes it always better without checking basics first.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    This better be good with all this good talk.
    The cool thing is though theres hardly any talk. All they have said so far is here is a product. Tell us what you think. I like that style
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    I wanna bet that once it is out there will be a "big spender" here who will do:

    "Super transformation contest log with USP Anabolic/AnaBeta Elite/ Erase Pro/X-Factor/ Insert more expensive supplements here because I am only stacking in the hope to change my body without changing my diet or training properly...because money can buy this! Of course...(unsponsored)"

    No hate against any of the supps mentioned lol I love em all (and will try USP Anabolic) , just funny how a new product comes out and people think stacking it all together makes it always better without checking basics first.
    Take out the X Factor and I will give it a go lol.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    To make sure it works on it's own.

    Reviews on stacks will come afterwards, reviews on it solo are more important.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    i don't see why this is even an issue...the point is to make sure the stuff works.

    I absolutely HATE beta/alpha tester logs with a million other similar products stacked alongside... the ability to distinguish the difference or direct effects really isn't as easy to do amongst these products as guys try to claim.... Just an excuse to throw another free product into their supp junkie lifestyle.(i too am a supp junkie, but i don't test like that, it's not fair to the product, company and public following the log regardless of what's "allowed")

    People can start exploring what to stack with it once they know how it acts on its own first and can make educated stacking formulations.

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    Time out...

    Are those guidelines for the testers or for the future product? I made the post under the assumption that those were guidelines that would be released when the product is released. With that said, I understand why a product is tested on it's own. I have been involved in different research opportunities and I completely understand the importance of controlled variables.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster

    The cool thing is though theres hardly any talk. All they have said so far is here is a product. Tell us what you think. I like that style
    Lol,i was thinking the same thing...especially for a uspl product.

    I tend to like most their products but many of their campaigns straight from testing have been super flamboyant.

    This on the inter hand had been one of the most minimalistic approaches I've seen for most any company...makes me think it's gonna be good.

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  11. Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    Time out...Are those guidelines for the testers or for the future product? I made the post under the assumption that those were guidelines that would be released when the product is released. With that said, I understand why a product is tested on it's own. I have been involved in different research opportunities and I completely understand the importance of controlled variables.
    The solo run is for the testing phase.

    I am sure stacking possibilities will be supplied later if USP Labs think stacking options are worthwhile.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Take out the X Factor and I will give it a go lol.
    Don't like ArA? And it was not my formulation lol...had it been my way AnaBeta by itself would suffice for a bulk IMO, Recomp...AnaBeta Elite and EC stack. I like ArA...I just like running it standalone I guess. (with proper ancillaries for it that is)
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough

    Lol,i was thinking the same thing...especially for a uspl product.

    I tend to like most their products but many of their campaigns straight from testing have been super flamboyant.

    This on the inter hand had been one of the most minimalistic approaches I've seen for most any company...makes me think it's gonna be good.

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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    Lol,i was thinking the same thing...especially for a uspl product.

    I tend to like most their products but many of their campaigns straight from testing have been super flamboyant.

    This on the inter hand had been one of the most minimalistic approaches I've seen for most any company...makes me think it's gonna be good.

    Sent from my SGH-T999 using Am.com
    I think this release may be similar to Anabeta. No one had a clue of Anacyclus pyrethrum, and many questions arose. However, there are now a couple studies on Anacyclus pyrethrum and Anabeta is a staple in many people's stacks.

    I have no clue what USP's "patented anabolic" is, but it may have all the potential to be an awesome/studied product.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Yeah pretty much what I heard lol
    Don't be mad bro. USP is literally the first company that I used outside of ON.

    I can understand your frustration being a SNS Rep, and friends with someone who has never used a product from SNS. It must pain you to see me praise a company that is not affiliated with you, so you feel betrayed.

  16. Play nice fellas, this is a Q & A thread
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Don't be mad bro. USP is literally the first company that I used outside of ON.

    I can understand your frustration being a SNS Rep, and friends with someone who has never used a product from SNS. It must pain you to see me praise a company that is not affiliated with you, so you feel betrayed.
    What about these? Prior to name change of course...

    Jim ConDenses Wendlers 5/3/1! *sponsored*

    Jim rocks 5/3/1 with AppNut!

    Just saying ! (And this has nothing to do with SNS brother don't worry )
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Yeah pretty much what I heard lol
    Also I feel that I must point out that you have very likely never had a blowjob if you believe it to sound like that.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    What about these? Prior to name change of course...

    Jim ConDenses Wendlers 5/3/1! *sponsored*

    Jim rocks 5/3/1 with AppNut!

    Just saying ! (And this has nothing to do with SNS brother don't worry )
    Let it be known that I supplemented before AM in case you were wondering :wink:

    And maybe if you would send me some product I wouldn't be able to say that. :semisrs:

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water
    Play nice fellas, this is a Q & A thread
    Lol I am playing nice!

  21. Back to questions...

    Any potential side effects for IF? Lets say I train Fasted at 6 am...if I dose at 5:30 am and break fast until 1pm would there be a problem?
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza
    Back to questions...

    Any potential side effects for IF? Lets say I train Fasted at 6 am...if I dose at 5:30 am and break fast until 1pm would there be a problem?
    Based on previous responses I would assume no, but would be interested in hearing the response to this.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Based on previous responses I would assume no, but would be interested in hearing the response to this.
    Usual forum folk love to eat every 2-3 hours and cannot do or believe in IF...hence it would be a stretch for them to think ahead for a 4-6 hour elongated period without food, hence the question.

    Now the thing is...some of them can be a bit harsh sides...for me if I am on DAA and AnaBeta fasted I HAVE to eat...hunger from anabeta AND a bit of GI discomfort from DAA get to me...and zipping any amount of BCAAs just isn't enough at some point...I would like to be let known if it is gonna be this way so I get used to eating in the AM again haha.
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  24. I've heard different dosing protocols for this. Which is it, 1 or 2 caps? My bottle contains 60 caps.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    I've heard different dosing protocols for this. Which is it, 1 or 2 caps? My bottle contains 60 caps.
    How come you already have it?
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    How come you already have it?
    Depends on where he lives bro... first shipments already went out. Plus some people already have the product and have been on it for several days if not a week or so.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    How come you already have it?
    I was wondering the same

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    How come you already have it?
    It's because he's special.

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  29. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Usual forum folk love to eat every 2-3 hours and cannot do or believe in IF...hence it would be a stretch for them to think ahead for a 4-6 hour elongated period without food, hence the question.

    Now the thing is...some of them can be a bit harsh sides...for me if I am on DAA and AnaBeta fasted I HAVE to eat...hunger from anabeta AND a bit of GI discomfort from DAA get to me...and zipping any amount of BCAAs just isn't enough at some point...I would like to be let known if it is gonna be this way so I get used to eating in the AM again haha.
    You could have just dosed all the DAA and Anabeta during the feeding window
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You could have just dosed all the DAA and Anabeta during the feeding window
    I know this for a fact, they would have worked the same bro. Yet allow me to admit I do enjoy placebo effects of taking them pre-wokout.
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  31. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You could have just dosed all the DAA and Anabeta during the feeding window

    Feeding window?

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  32. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    How come you already have it?
    I don't. I emailed USP asking what I would be get getting in the mail. They said 60 cap bottle. All these supplements I get, my girl thinks I'm importing drugs! Don't want to raise any more suspicion haha
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  33. A good girlfriend supports supplement addictions
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  34. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster
    A good girlfriend supports supplement addictions
    My wife actually finds enjoyment trying to organize all mine.

  35. When will logs start?

    I hope the loggers are all very different. Some bulking, some cutting, some lean bulking...etc etc. Any athletes chosen for loggers?
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  36. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster
    When will logs start?

    I hope the loggers are all very different. Some bulking, some cutting, some lean bulking...etc etc. Any athletes chosen for loggers?
    I didn't notice any.

  37. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster
    When will logs start?

    I hope the loggers are all very different. Some bulking, some cutting, some lean bulking...etc etc. Any athletes chosen for loggers?
    What about the ones who are just being awesome?

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  38. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    A good girlfriend supports supplement addictions
    I think she's the addict. I've been finding traces of Alphamine on the kitchen counter every morning when she leaves for work.
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  39. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    What about the ones who are just being awesome?

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  40. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    When will logs start?

    I hope the loggers are all very different. Some bulking, some cutting, some lean bulking...etc etc. Any athletes chosen for loggers?
    Im cutting and an Athlete. Football is played on the regular along with runs that are anywhere from 3-6 miles weekly.
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