USPlabs "Patented Anabolic" R&D -- Alpha Testing Q/A --

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by squatting View Post
    When?
    its up already


  2. I have another question, does this affect hormones? IE as in a natty test booster. or is it just anabolic without any hormonal properties?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Jbrooks View Post
    Isnt aegeline in the new version of oxyelite pro , guess I do not understand the big deal of this product .. Yet the alpha testers seemed to really like it..

    I did find this http://www.banlab.com/hearbs_details...hp?hear*****23

    Aegle marmelos (alkaloidal-amide, Aegeline 2) lowered blood glucose levels by 12.9% and 16.9% at 5 and 24h, respectively, in sucrose challenged streptozotocin induced diabetic rats model at the dose of 100mg/kg body weight. Aegeline 2 has also significantly decreased the plasma triglyceride (Tg) level by 55% (P<0.001), total cholesterol (TC) by 24% (P<0.05) and free fatty acids (FFA) by 24%, accompanied with increase in HDL-C by 28% and HDL-C/TC ratio by 66% in dyslipidemic hamster model at the dose of 50 mg/kg body weight. The compound 2 might be a beta(3)-AR agonist13.
    The compound'seffects are dose/concentration dependent in terms of which molecular target itengages. As described in the USPlabs' patent, at a specified lower dose, thecompound possesses a thermogenic and cognitive effect, while at a much higher dose, thecompound possesses an anabolic effect.

    The anabolic amount makes subjects extremely hungry. You obviously don't want that in a Fat burner/appetite suppressant.


  4. Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    The compound'seffects are dose/concentration dependent in terms of which molecular target itengages. As described in the USPlabs' patent, at a specified lower dose, thecompound possesses a thermogenic and cognitive effect, while at a much higher dose, thecompound possesses an anabolic effect.

    The anabolic amount makes subjects extremely hungry. You obviously don't want that in a Fat burner/appetite suppressant.

    I've seen this exact phrase word for word on another board, that you? or is every usp rep been told to say that in regards to the questions regarding the ingredients?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by rhizome View Post
    Is this data human data? Because its octopamine metabolites are very weak b-3 agonists on human adipocytes.
    I didn't even see the structure of the compound until recently. Do you have full text access to the rat data?

    If the primary metabolite is octopamine or an analogue, I will be very disappointed. Anecdotally, I got great pumps from the product, which I'm not even sure is a possible endpoint even if aegeline is metabolically active. I will never rule out placebo though, as I was not blinded.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by thedarce View Post
    I've seen this exact phrase word for word on another board, that you? or is every usp rep been told to say that in regards to the questions regarding the ingredients?
    Correct, if asked the difference between OEP and VERSA-1 that is the companies answer..

    Darce is one of my favorite chokes.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    Darce is one of my favorite chokes.
    mine too i always brabo/lapel choke everyone.

  8. According to High Tower Pharmacology , aegeline MAY be inherently anabolic, however will probably not affect humans. Great.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by AlexErdellan View Post
    According to High Tower Pharmacology , aegeline MAY be inherently anabolic, however will probably not affect humans. Great.
    Probably is a great word in science.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by thedarce View Post
    mine too i always brabo/lapel choke everyone.
    Have to love the sneaky chokes....so quick.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I didn't even see the structure of the compound until recently. Do you have full text access to the rat data?

    If the primary metabolite is octopamine or an analogue, I will be very disappointed. Anecdotally, I got great pumps from the product, which I'm not even sure is a possible endpoint even if aegeline is metabolically active. I will never rule out placebo though, as I was not blinded.
    200 or so placebo guys raving about it all month just like you did.
    100 percent money back.....although you will get more on eBay with this deal then if returned at the super low purchase price.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    Probably is a great word in science.
    We'll see. I hope it works, I couldn't pass on the deal . Figured if I dont like it I can always sell the 2nd bottle on ebay for about 50 anyway.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    200 or so placebo guys raving about it all month just like you did.
    100 percent money back.....although you will get more on eBay with this deal then if returned at the super low purchase price.
    I know you're confident in the product (otherwise why patent it?). Any strings attached with the guarantee? I'd like to try 3 caps/day

  14. Quote Originally Posted by AlexErdellan View Post
    According to High Tower Pharmacology , aegeline MAY be inherently anabolic, however will probably not affect humans. Great.
    He said anabolic in adipose tissue lol. Cissus round 2!

  15. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I know you're confident in the product (otherwise why patent it?). Any strings attached with the guarantee? I'd like to try 3 caps/day
    I will first say three caps is overkill. You are basing off data on glucose. We are not claiming that.

    With that said, all you have to do is return bottles with proof of purchase and your card will be instantly refunded without question.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by AlexErdellan View Post
    We'll see. I hope it works, I couldn't pass on the deal . Figured if I dont like it I can always sell the 2nd bottle on ebay for about 50 anyway.
    You also receive a bottle of a month supply of agmatine500

  17. With all the hype, why is everyone suddenly dubious now that Coop chimes in with a few doubts? Don't get me wrong, scepticism is a good thing in the supplement industry but no need to try make it out like USP is facilitating a huge scam, after all, a tonne of money would have been put into research/ development and patenting the product; none of which would be worthwhile if the product is too be doomed.

    I can't wait for it to drop on the planet; considering I cannot get the IC release here in NZ

    Edit: Not a shot at Coop, so don't hate on me

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    With all the hype, why is everyone suddenly dubious now that Coop chimes in with a few doubts? Don't get me wrong, scepticism is a good thing in the supplement industry but no need to try make it out like USP is facilitating a huge scam, after all, a tonne of money would have been put into research/ development and patenting the product; none of which would be worthwhile if the product is too be doomed.

    I can't wait for it to drop on the planet; considering I cannot get the IC release here in NZ

    Edit: Not a shot at Coop, so don't hate on me
    I actually agree with this post 100%. I don't know enough about the product as there simply isn't a whole lot of data on aegeline. I think people should make their own educated decisions here.

  19. I will vouch for this.. USPlabs ain't like other companies who depend on ads and other rubbish to push their products out just to get an upper hand.. We were given chances to test these products before release.. It was based on our feedback

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    With all the hype, why is everyone suddenly dubious now that Coop chimes in with a few doubts? Don't get me wrong, scepticism is a good thing in the supplement industry but no need to try make it out like USP is facilitating a huge scam, after all, a tonne of money would have been put into research/ development and patenting the product; none of which would be worthwhile if the product is too be doomed.

    I can't wait for it to drop on the planet; considering I cannot get the IC release here in NZ

    Edit: Not a shot at Coop, so don't hate on me
    We will publish the animal studies (90 day study in Rats and Rabbits is not cheap) and in the middle of recruiting subjects for a study at Memphis. before release, we conducted a pilot study on safety markers (as discussed in the write up).

    Companies search available (as we do) to develop a product, but in this case, we are creating the research. There are pros and cons to it.

    Pro- we are the first and with the patent, we can liscense it out..
    Cons- Innovation doesn't come without attacks from the competition....it's the nature of the industry.

  21. I used the product and loved it, so i bought the IC release.

    While the anabolic in adipose tissue confuses me i know i was cutting and never saw signs of impaired fatloss.
    E-Pharm Rep... PM me with any questions or concerns

  22. Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    I used the product and loved it, so i bought the IC release.
    Same here.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    I used the product and loved it, so i bought the IC release.

    While the anabolic in adipose tissue confuses me i know i was cutting and never saw signs of impaired fatloss.
    The competition will manipulate data to serve there purposes...

  24. Quote Originally Posted by freezito View Post
    Same here, hit the link seconds after recieving and nothing and nothing since. This is quite disapointing since its been hyped in our heads for months. Its like waking up christmas morning to only find out that your house was robbed and all the presents stolen
    Lulz, wowzers... I wasn't that hurt, just thought the logical thing to do is extend the timeframe considering the down time... uspl will make sure everyone gets a chance to take advantage of it, I'm sure.

    I was dying to read that write up more then anything... still need to go in depth now and check the referenced studies. I just like to know how things work, there is one thing I already know though, it DOES work.

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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    After all the evidence shown in beta-testers.....
    exactly.

    I doubt that you can guess what the dose per cap really is, look at minimal human data and then come to an absolute conclusion on how much versa-1 needs to be taken. The largest example of what it can actually do ever needed, real world detailed use, is available to us in abundance.

    I would like to see myself what a double dose on workout days would bring(morning w/cardio, evening w/ weight dosing) , but even without doing that I know I'll get good results from taking it as suggested...

    The one thing I REALLY would like to know is what mechanism is behind the ravenous hunger that was created by taking versa-1. It was insane, and considerably more so impressive about it was I was taking copious amounts of stimulants/fat burners each day alongside which normally destroy my appetite.

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