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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Yes, the placebo effect is a strong one but when several logs post very similar results without even a clue as too what they might expect from the product, then I highly doubt the placebo is in play.

    You must consider that their are a variety of different supplements that ellicit very different physiological effects and so when PA was released to the Alpha testers, that product could have mimicked any one of the categories of supplements. I.e. Test booster, AI, Insulin mimicker etc. etc. and so any placebo that a user would have felt would be in line with what they believed/ hoped or anticipated the product would deliver (increased hunger, appitite suppression etc.) but instead they all reported similar findings.

    This would require far too much coincidence for all alphas (not just in this board either, but users from other forums as well) to anticipate the same response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Where did iron fists posts go? Objective discussion and a disagreement of viewpoints should not be grounds for deletion. I just got here and am reading a broken convo lol.

    Anecdotally, I did notice transient bouts of almost unbearable sweating when combined with caffeine in a fasted state. That, and nitrate-esque vascularity, were the two most prominent effects for me (the citocholine may explain the erections). I'd like to get iron fists take on these effects and possible causes. Vascularity observations could be placebo or subject's bias, but the intense rise in body heat (with sweating and even some nausea) was only present when I took this product fasted, and it occurred without fail when doing so.
    I've quoted most all of his posts as it was, you should be able to get the entirety of his contribution.

    I do enjoy a devils advocate position and opposition will in the end only help prove out anything of real value, but that guy was beginning to just degrade into personal attacks on my intelligence and condescending posts on dictionary meanings of placebo as if I don't understand its very simple concept.

    I wish he could have offered a scientific argument or a more extensive look into the effects of the compounds actions as well but I honestly don't think he has any more info then any of us.

    Either way, I don't think his posts should have been removed. Hopefully he can come back if he hasn't been banned.

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    If versa1 gets more promising non sponsored reviews I'm going to pick it up and go with the focus xt and versa route

    Sounds fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by squatting View Post
    If versa1 gets more promising non sponsored reviews I'm going to pick it up and go with the focus xt and versa route

    Sounds fun
    solid choice....

    I hope the community decides to log experiences here..

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    Quote Originally Posted by squatting View Post
    If versa1 gets more promising non sponsored reviews I'm going to pick it up and go with the focus xt and versa route

    Sounds fun
    logging mine now. it was free, but a log wasnt required. just simply logging my personal experiences with it. if i hate it, ill say. if i love it, ill pimp it all around the forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    solid choice....

    I hope the community decides to log experiences here..
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    logging mine now. it was free, but a log wasnt required. just simply logging my personal experiences with it. if i hate it, ill say. if i love it, ill pimp it all around the forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiianhulk View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You should honestly try Focus XT for a similar feel (no pimp). It would stack well with Versa-1
    Would the stack be beneficial for a study session? Often I find Focus XT to be enough in of itself but would Versa 1 be a good addition? Always looking for that edge closer to exam time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Would the stack be beneficial for a study session? Often I find Focus XT to be enough in of itself but would Versa 1 be a good addition? Always looking for that edge closer to exam time
    I think so..focus would increase and even better mental stamina seems to increase..you just stay sharp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Would the stack be beneficial for a study session? Often I find Focus XT to be enough in of itself but would Versa 1 be a good addition? Always looking for that edge closer to exam time
    Since the citocholine appears to be a secondary ingredient relative to the aegeline, it probably wouldn't be the best way to use it, but you could try Versa-1 + Focus XT + a racetam
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Would the stack be beneficial for a study session? Often I find Focus XT to be enough in of itself but would Versa 1 be a good addition? Always looking for that edge closer to exam time
    That's one serious study session!focus xt is more than enough for me when I need the mental boost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Since the citocholine appears to be a secondary ingredient relative to the aegeline, it probably wouldn't be the best way to use it, but you could try Versa-1 + Focus XT + a racetam
    I'll give that combo a trial run in the coming weeks. Thanks for the heads up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack411 View Post
    That's one serious study session!focus xt is more than enough for me when I need the mental boost.
    Yeah, Focus Xt does me well during the semester but closer to exam time when you need to pull all-nighters WITH mental clairty (often a hard combo in a sleep deprived state) I need all the help I can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    Same here. Focus XT on off days and added ALCAR on training days.
    Sounds like a nice way to utilize the two. I got a tub of caff free focus Xt sitting on my fridge.. I gotta remember to try this out.

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    Going to run a non sponsored log of Versa 1 as soon as it arrives. Only other supplements i will be using is Powerful at bedtime and Epharm pumpspray preworkout..sj

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    Going to run a non sponsored log of Versa 1 as soon as it arrives. Only other supplements i will be using is Powerful at bedtime and Epharm pumpspray preworkout..sj
    Pump spray would confound your results tremendously
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    Going to run a non sponsored log of Versa 1 as soon as it arrives. Only other supplements i will be using is Powerful at bedtime and Epharm pumpspray preworkout..sj
    Please link me! I'd love to follow along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Please link me! I'd love to follow along.
    I will. Started pumpspray yesterday at 70 sprays preworkout and Powerful at bedtime. As soon as the Versa1 arrives I will make a non sponsored log here. Very excited to give this ago. SJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Pump spray would confound your results tremendously
    Confound or compound? Not familiar with pump spray at all. I don't know what's even in it (never looked at it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Confound or compound? Not familiar with pump spray at all. I don't know what's even in it (never looked at it)
    Confound, as in he will not be able to isolate which product created the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Confound, as in he will not be able to isolate which product created the results.
    Ah, I see. Makes sense.....didn't know if it was an auto-correct from a smart phone. My fat fingers do that to me a good bit :-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    I will. Started pumpspray yesterday at 70 sprays preworkout and Powerful at bedtime. As soon as the Versa1 arrives I will make a non sponsored log here. Very excited to give this ago. SJ
    Have you used the other products (PumpSpray and PowerFULL) before? If yes, then you might be better positioned to identify the incremental effects of another variable, such as Versa-1. Do you have a log already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Versa-1 + Focus XT + AnaBeta Elite = supplement junkies ultimate mind and muscle stack?
    We should do it at Nutraplanet.

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    On our ic orders,will we get a tracking #? I did see it said on the initial page we should,but I have not received anything.i just want to make sure it doesn't get left in rain or stolen like in the past!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Versa-1 + Focus XT + AnaBeta Elite = supplement junkies ultimate mind and muscle stack?
    Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    We should do it at Nutraplanet.

    I'm in. Natty you in? Coop?
    I like the sound of that stack...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster
    Versa-1 + Focus XT + AnaBeta Elite = supplement junkies ultimate mind and muscle stack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    We should do it at Nutraplanet.

    I'm in. Natty you in? Coop?
    Let's do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Have you used the other products (PumpSpray and PowerFULL) before? If yes, then you might be better positioned to identify the incremental effects of another variable, such as Versa-1. Do you have a log already?
    hey bro, sorry for the delay. Yes, I have used them both before. Powerful several times and 4 weeks on of pumpspray. I was off pumpspray and just started it again 3 days ago..SJSJ


    btw I have not started log was waiting for Versa to get here

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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Versa-1 + Focus XT + AnaBeta Elite = supplement junkies ultimate mind and muscle stack?
    haha if you are referring to me I do have Anabeta both regular and elite and have used them quite a bit. Never used focus xt though. I was planning on Versa1 with the pumpspray and powerful but I do have Anabeta to throw in if need be. I think people would like to see primarily just versa1 and nit stacked with Anabeta but hey I am game for the majority vote..SJSJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Let's do it.
    This just brightened up my day. That combo will be legendary.
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    I'm getting back in the gym next week after a year break (car accident rehab) and have anabeta on hand with versa-1 on the way. Should be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcalvert86 View Post
    I'm getting back in the gym next week after a year break (car accident rehab) and have anabeta on hand with versa-1 on the way. Should be interesting.
    quite the stack to hop back in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Versa-1 + Focus XT + AnaBeta Elite = supplement junkies ultimate mind and muscle stack?
    I've got focus xt coming, def want to do this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    I've got focus xt coming, def want to do this!
    I used Versa-1 with Focus XT today; workout was awesome. I'm currently running the 2 with C20 and SS Forskolin-95, but will definitely try it with ABE in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcalvert86 View Post
    I'm getting back in the gym next week after a year break (car accident rehab) and have anabeta on hand with versa-1 on the way. Should be interesting.
    Good luck man! Hit it hard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    I used Versa-1 with Focus XT today; workout was awesome. I'm currently running the 2 with C20 and SS Forskolin-95, but will definitely try it with ABE in the future.
    That Versa-1/Compound 20 combo is like music to my ears man... nice work
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    Quote Originally Posted by borobulker View Post
    That Versa-1/Compound 20 combo is like music to my ears man... nice work
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