- 08-10-2012, 01:19 PM
- 08-10-2012, 02:02 PM
Caffeine based is a silly term...caffeine is the weakest stimulant in the mixture. Thats why it has to be dosed higher than everything else.
If i ever saw higenamine, yohimbine, or tembamide listed before caffeine on a label I would run
Read the writeup, learn the science.
Attachment 63845After two years of undeniable feedback from Alpha-T2, we sat down to begin our research onto an even greater, more innovative, more powerful fat burner…
ALPHAMINE™ Redefines The Fat Burner Category
We realized all the fat burners on the market hold MAJOR flaws…we set out to create a solution.
Burn FAT Not MUSCLEUntil ALPHAMINE, no products are designed to selectively burn FAT while preserving muscle mass. Crazy…right? So many products based on energy and weight loss…but not FAT loss.
Male or female, no matter how much fat you want to drop nobody wants to lose their precious muscle mass. Hard dieting, heavy stimulants, and extreme cardio all are begging to break down your muscle tissue for energy. Shift the focus to FAT loss.
Alphamine takes physique enhancement a step further. Not only is this formula designed to shed fat and preserve muscle, we have included a potent muscle hardening agent in every serving. A flabby stomach is annoying enough as it is…the last thing you need are flabby muscles! Demand more than just fat loss…demand full physique transformation.
Allow us to present to you the new definition of a fat burner…
Unmatched Formula…The All-Inclusive Physique TransformerAlphamine delivers ingredients acting both independently and synergistically in a formula that takes fat loss to the next level…no…this is beyond the next level. This is an entirely new playing field!
This potent thermogenic powder is built for a fast acting custom serving for every user. As a powdered thermogenic, each and every user can fully customize their serving size and frequency if they choose. No more being stuck with only 1 or 2 capsules… enjoy fully customizable dosing anytime, anywhere. Find YOUR sweet spot.
Alphamine mixes quick and easy with a spoon and tastes like something you’d only drink on your cheat days…no medicine mouth here! Two small scoops with 10 oz. of water and you can be on your way…
Extreme Thermogenic. Selective Synergistic Stimulants. Novel Extracts.Fat Igniting TechnologyBeta-Agonist Blend
Higenamine and tembamide are two novel and unique beta-agonist compounds formulated in Alphamine to drive the foundation of fat loss and thermogenesis. Higenamine is a highly researched compound for its potent beta-agonistic action. It’s been the key ingredient in Alpha-T2 for its fat loss and thermogenic effects, and we deliver it here with an even more complete blend of ingredients and synergy.
Beta-agonists have shined for decades for their ability to consistently shed fat…PES is staying on the forefront of supplement science with the novel beta-agonists in Alphamine.
Back in the day yohimbine was the new kid on the block…since then science has prevailed and discovered newer, cleaner, more selective forms of yohimbine such as rauwolscine. But it CAN get better. Using a unique extract, PES has gone even further after experimenting with numerous specialized extracts to developSA2-A™, the cleanest, most thermogenic and appetite suppressing extract to date. The Pausinystalia bark holds as many as 8 alkaloid molecules that have gone unnoticed…we knew there was more to take advantage of.
Pausinystalia alkaloids are known as “Selective Alpha-2 adrenergic antagonists" within the body. These compounds are the KEY to targeting fat loss in those stubborn regions. The alpha adrenoceptors are prevalent in certain fatty areas of the body such as the stomach, love-handles, chest, and lower back. When these receptors are “on” they are activating fat storing mechanisms. SA2-A™ has the ability to turn the receptors OFF and allow targeted fat loss in those stubborn areas.
Caffeine finds its way into Alphamine for its specific synergy with the beta-agonists through its ability to inhibit phosphodiesterase activity and interact with the adenosine receptor. With this synergy beta-agonists like higenamine become more potent while tolerance is developed much slower. These three systems are the trifecta of the clean thermogenic energy Alphamine delivers in every serving.
One of the most underrated ingredients today, oleuropein extracted from olive leaves holds numerous fat loss activating properties. Extracts from olive leaf are some of the most thyrogenic ingredients available at a very small dose. In an animal study, olive leaf extract raised thyroid hormone T3 2.5 times above baseline!
In another unrelated animal study, oleuropein increased noradrenaline and adrenaline secretions, as well as uncoupling protein 1 levels in brown adipose tissue, leading to increased thermogenesis. What a perfect fit for this already thermogenic formula, oleuropein takes it even higher adding new mechanisms and a potent thyrogenic appeal.
Eucommia Ulmoides – 98% Chlorogenic Acid Extract
Chlorogenic acid, commonly found in green coffee beans, is becoming popular for its strong scientific evidence for fat loss in humans…but we needed something more pure. Instead we went to Eucommia, an herb with high content of chlorogenic acid and scientific data on fatty acid oxidation. Numerous studies on chlorogenic acid have shown its ability to assist humans in fat loss, partially through altering the absorption and utilization of glucose in the body.
Eucommia Ulmoides itself has shown to stimulant lipolysis and thermogenesis while simultaneously suppressing appetite in the animal model. Consider thisthe most superior source of chlorogenic acid.
We could write an entire article on the importance and biological functions of choline in the body, but we will strictly focus on why it found its way into Alphamine. First and foremost, when choline was added to this mixture the overall feel of each serving changed significantly. The formula became much smoother and longer lasting with the addition of choline.
The reason choline was considered here, is choline supplementation has shown to accelerate lipid oxidation through increasing the uptake of fatty acids and increasing plasma beta-hydroxybutyrate in elite male triathletes. One more pathway to fat loss in Alphamine…
Lean Hard Muscle Mass PreservationN-Coumaroyldopamine (NCD)
NCD is one of the most selective beta-2 agonist compounds in nature. It has a unique ability to be so selective that cardiac stimulation is greatly avoided, making it very useful towards beta-agonists other promising properties. Anecdotally, beta-agonists with selectivity like NCD shine in the muscle sparing and muscle hardening aspects. If we had to choose a phrase to describe this ingredient…we would use Flex Appeal.
NCD has been the rave for getting dense firm muscle tissue, and we suspect ultra-selective beta-2 agonists such as NCD may be the future of leaning and hardening agents in the industry. We delivery it here in its purest form.
Alpha-Hydroxy-Isocaproic Acid (Leucic Acid)
Leucic Acid is a metabolite of the well-known branched chain amino acid Leucine. BCAA users know that Leucine is the star amino acid because it’s a muscle preserving, anti-catabolic, lean mass promoting agent. Its abilities have been heavily researched and proven time and time again. The only drawback with Leucine is the high doses needed…enter Leucic Acid.
Leucic acid on the other hand can be used at a much lower daily dose. When leucine metabolites are present in high concentrations in muscle cells, it tells the muscle it needs to kick its anti-catabolic (muscle preserving) actions into gear.
mTOR, a mechanism in the body that has gone widely unnoticed, drives protein synthesis to preserve muscle tissue even under catabolic conditions!
Enjoy The Revolution….More To Come From PES
08-10-2012, 02:04 PM
08-10-2012, 02:08 PM
08-10-2012, 02:10 PM
Originally Posted by fightu35I'm no scientist but I do know that pes is legit and only formulates the best and most effective products possible.. Whatever they're selling, I'm buying at this point until they prove otherwise unworthy of that trust.Originally Posted by nattydisaster
08-10-2012, 02:11 PM
2 pumps am, 1 pump pm? Do not exceed one bottle per day for the sandiest of va..Originally Posted by BoneDaddy
08-10-2012, 02:17 PM
08-10-2012, 02:18 PM
Congrats on two of your 14 posts... Liquid caffeine? AKA coffee? Cmon man.. Stop spouting, it Looks foolish.Originally Posted by fightu35
08-10-2012, 02:19 PM
08-10-2012, 02:22 PM
08-10-2012, 02:24 PM
Buy something from you? Um, no.. And I'm done feeding the trolls..Originally Posted by fightu35
Im pretty pumped to stack this with shift and test powder in the fall..
08-10-2012, 02:30 PM
08-10-2012, 02:37 PM
Yet fight's super secret supplement company will be coming out with AlphaScream soon... only change will be the Higenamine will be replace with Raspberry Ketones.
The Historic PES Legend
08-10-2012, 02:39 PM
Serious? Only ask bc of the copy cat issue lol so anything is possibleOriginally Posted by DAdams91982
08-10-2012, 02:47 PM
08-10-2012, 02:52 PM
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08-10-2012, 03:09 PM
08-10-2012, 03:19 PM
08-10-2012, 03:26 PM
I don't really understand an argument saying the serving size is light therefore it doesn't work. Stuff by the gram is always more expensive than stuff sold by the pound lol.
On a serious note. Fightu35 if you would like to discuss anything to do with the product please feel free to PM me. I understand your intention was not to derail this thread. At the moment that is what is happening so if you would like to continue talking I am more than happy to talk to you personally.
Please let the talk about the product continue. We have heard your side and a lot of people would like to be able to discuss their own opinions as well.
08-10-2012, 03:36 PM
08-10-2012, 03:42 PM
In this instance caffeine is highest in the second part of the label. Please trust me when I say that you do not want any of the other ingredients in the same quantities that caffeine is studied in. Taking that much higenamine or yohimbine would not be safe. This does not mean that caffeine is the main ingredient in the formula in terms of efficacy. It simply means it is in larger quantities than the more potent ingredients (on a mg for mg basis).
08-10-2012, 04:21 PM
08-10-2012, 04:50 PM
Day by Day, we get better and better! Tillí we canít be beat Ė Wonít Be Beat!
08-10-2012, 04:59 PM
So why are you here?Originally Posted by fightu35
...::: Olympus Labs Athlete & Representative :::...Crossfit - DEMIGOD -
08-10-2012, 05:30 PM
I am the "author" of every one of my posts. That does not make me a Bill Shakespeare now does it?
08-10-2012, 05:33 PM
I have a blog as well!
08-10-2012, 05:41 PM
Almost pulled the trigger on my first neg ever on this guy lolOriginally Posted by BoneDaddy
PEScience Representativehttp://pescience.com/insider http://facebook.com/pescience
08-10-2012, 05:51 PM
Musssssstttttttt resistOriginally Posted by LiveToLift
...::: Olympus Labs Athlete & Representative :::...Crossfit - DEMIGOD -
08-10-2012, 05:54 PM
Same here, but I see someone already has. It's time to put this troll to bed so we can get back to the topic at hand. It really pisses me off that a company like PES has to deal with guys like this, ESPECIALLY during the reveal of an actual novel supp.Originally Posted by LiveToLift