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    Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    What I appreciate about innovation is that it approaches the target with a new MOA and pathway which can at times be better with less adverse and unwanted side. I loved Yohimbine but the sides were unpleasant if not unsafe. Welcome alpha-Yohimbine.

    As much as I enjoyed 1,3 it was unhealthy (for me) as it elevated and sustained my RHR and BP to an unpleasant level. Although the MOA and pathway was effective I am much happier and healthier without it.

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    Originally Posted by fightu35 View Post
    to be honest most stuff is 100% bull****...please tell me 1 product that has no caffeine or stimulants in them and it works? and for the record I never took any so called fat burner to burn fat because no can nor will,not store bought anyway,I used them for the energy to push harder. to be honest the best and cheapest thing I ever used im using now liquid caffeine.simple easy fast acting and only 1 ingredient in it..and Im not jaded I was in the bizz for years and know many inside facts,as I know the owners of many big supplement company's and know what really goes on...
    You seem to believe your own bull**** so don't let me stop you. On the otherhand it is bull**** and most intelligent people here know it.

    When you have something positive to share let us know.

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    Originally Posted by fightu35 View Post
    to be honest most stuff is 100% bull****...please tell me 1 product that has no caffeine or stimulants in them and it works? and for the record I never took any so called fat burner to burn fat because no can nor will,not store bought anyway,I used them for the energy to push harder. to be honest the best and cheapest thing I ever used im using now liquid caffeine.simple easy fast acting and only 1 ingredient in it..and Im not jaded I was in the bizz for years and know many inside facts,as I know the owners of many big supplement company's and know what really goes on...
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    Originally Posted by fightu35
    to be honest most stuff is 100% bull****...please tell me 1 product that has no caffeine or stimulants in them and it works? and for the record I never took any so called fat burner to burn fat because no can nor will,not store bought anyway,I used them for the energy to push harder. to be honest the best and cheapest thing I ever used im using now liquid caffeine.simple easy fast acting and only 1 ingredient in it..and Im not jaded I was in the bizz for years and know many inside facts,as I know the owners of many big supplement company's and know what really goes on...
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    Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    You seem to believe your own bull**** so don't let me stop you. On the otherhand it is bull**** and most intelligent people here know it.

    When you have something positive to share let us know.

    PES Shift, Genomyx DCP...very effective non-stim products (just off the top of my head).
    as I said im all for something that works,ill be the 1st to say how good something is,just for fun what did I say thats bull**** ?

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    So if I'm to the point where the lower body fat is my main objective, ephedrine is potentially counter productive? I am using alpha t2 as well, but if ephedrine is hindering mobilization due to its effects on alpha receptors would I be better off ditching it? I have some DMAA leftover from a while ago, would that be a better option?

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    Would alphamine + alpha t2 be a crazy fat loss stack or is it better to just run it with something like erase pro or c20?

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    Originally Posted by Prraimm View Post
    Would alphamine + alpha t2 be a crazy fat loss stack or is it better to just run it with something like erase pro or c20?
    That would be a bit too much in my opinion.

    Erase Pro or C20 would be much better additions to a leaning stack with Alphamine
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    Originally Posted by kevinhy

    That would be a bit too much in my opinion.

    Erase Pro or C20 would be much better additions to a leaning stack with Alphamine
    The exact stack I advised to him a few days ago lol :-)
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    Originally Posted by kevinhy View Post
    That would be a bit too much in my opinion.

    Erase Pro or C20 would be much better additions to a leaning stack with Alphamine
    I have a feeling....a really good feeling....that Alphamine and Erase Pro will be the most popular stack
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    Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    I have a feeling....a really good feeling....that Alphamine and Erase Pro will be the most popular stack
    You got me itching for some Alphamine now
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    I cannot wait for this release. Few formulators bring the kind of innovation that Josh is capable of.
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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I cannot wait for this release. Few formulators bring the kind of innovation that Josh is capable of.
    Seconded. Plus he has always been generous to us AM'ers.
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    Originally Posted by Wocheezy View Post
    So if I'm to the point where the lower body fat is my main objective, ephedrine is potentially counter productive? I am using alpha t2 as well, but if ephedrine is hindering mobilization due to its effects on alpha receptors would I be better off ditching it? I have some DMAA leftover from a while ago, would that be a better option?
    As an endomorph, my fat deposition tends to predominantly lean towards my love handles, hips and thighs.Candidly, it a female(sque) fat deposition.

    In my experience beta-agonists will only get me so far. As I get leaner I reduce or eliminate beta-agonists (ephedrine) and introduce or increase alpha-agonists (yohimbine/alpha-yohimbine) to target those areas.

    Additionally, in kind with female/endomorphic body fat deposition, I find that the reduction of estrogen helps this a great deal as well. Also what goes hand-in-hand with this is a low GI low carb diet as well as the yohimbine and alpha-yohimbine work best in an insulin free environment.

    BTW - I am by no means an expert on this matter but rather know what works for my body type.

    Here is the thread of which I quoted in my earlier post - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/searc...archid=3826991
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    Awesome. Thanks for the reply I appreciate the insight! I will be trying alphamine very soon, so that will be my stand alone fat burner but this knowledge is very useful

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    Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    As an endomorph, my fat deposition tends to predominantly lean towards my love handles, hips and thighs.Candidly, it a female(sque) fat deposition.

    In my experience beta-agonists will only get me so far. As I get leaner I reduce or eliminate beta-agonists (ephedrine) and introduce or increase alpha-agonists (yohimbine/alpha-yohimbine) to target those areas.

    Additionally, in kind with female/endomorphic body fat deposition, I find that the reduction of estrogen helps this a great deal as well. Also what goes hand-in-hand with this is a low GI low carb diet as well as the yohimbine and alpha-yohimbine work best in an insulin free environment.

    BTW - I am by no means an expert on this matter but rather know what works for my body type.

    Here is the thread of which I quoted in my earlier post - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/searc...archid=3826991
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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Why not continue using EC but add a-yohimbine to the mix?
    I do continue to use the EC but not as my primary. Mostly for the irritability (for me) that come with the stack...it is not entirely side free

    Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    In my experience beta-agonists will only get me so far. As I get leaner I reduce or eliminate beta-agonists (ephedrine) and introduce or increase alpha-agonists (yohimbine/alpha-yohimbine) to target those areas.
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    Originally Posted by fightu35 View Post
    to be honest most stuff is 100% bull****...please tell me 1 product that has no caffeine or stimulants in them and it works? and for the record I never took any so called fat burner to burn fat because no can nor will,not store bought anyway,I used them for the energy to push harder. to be honest the best and cheapest thing I ever used im using now liquid caffeine.simple easy fast acting and only 1 ingredient in it..and Im not jaded I was in the bizz for years and know many inside facts,as I know the owners of many big supplement company's and know what really goes on...
    While I agree with you that most stuff is crap, I would hesitate to pass judgement on something that hasn't been released yet/we have no idea what's in it. The reason people are excited are because PES has a track record of delivering, it's why people get excited when Matt is working on a new formulation even though they don't know what it is in it! Not many (but some) companies/people have track records of delivering innovative, solid products on a consistent basis. Matt's one of them, Natty's another, PA comes to mind, a few others.

    Is Alphamine guaranteed to be a slam dunk amazing supplement? No. We don't know what's in it and we (the consumers) haven't used it yet. But we know the track record of PES. And make no mistake, it's that record that has people excited about this. Wait to see what's in it before writing it off completely. The current hype is just based on an awesome past.
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    Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    I do continue to use the EC but not as my primary. Mostly for the irritability (for me) that come with the stack...it is not entirely side free
    Yeah I understand. Prolonged use of ephedrine really wears me down and gives me a temper.
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