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Old 09-03-2008, 09:09 AM   #1
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Usplabs Super Cissus RX or MyProtein's Mega Cissus ?

Hi there guys,

Anybody have any idea which is better. The Mega Cissus from MyProtein has 50% Ketosterone and is priced at £18.95. While Usplabs Super Cissus RX is stated to only have 10% Ketosterone and is priced at £24.99.

Going from this it seems MyProteins Mega Cissus is the better deal/product.

Or am I missing something ?
 
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:19 AM   #2
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I have had great results with the bulk USP labs stuff and I cap it myself. I have better results with cissus when it is a lower extract percentage.
 
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Super Cissus is the only cissus to use.
 



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I read on MD and flex articles on cissus where they stated that the higher the ketosterones the better(even for joint aid), and if you ask me I agree , I use the 40% keto primaforce and my joints improved better than with lower extracts, if my protein has 50% it should be the best out there
 
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:48 PM   #5
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USP BULK SUPER is a good value... The best capped cissus I've used to date is Primaforce Cissus.
 
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:34 PM   #6
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USP BULK SUPER is a good value... The best capped cissus I've used to date is Primaforce Cissus.
another vote to primaforce, very good cissus
 



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I vote USP all the way but in all honesty just taking cissus period pputs you a step ahead of the game. Id look into bulk powders liscensed through USPL though as their extraction process is unique and can be found at a very economical price if you know where to look.
 
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Somewhere on this board or bb.com Jacob and some others stated that at above 10% extraction the joint support behavior starts to degrade. 10% is the sweet spot. The Ketosterones are just a part of what causes the many benefits of Cissus. I would use a lower extraction to get the broad spectrum of benefits.
 
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Somewhere on this board or bb.com Jacob and some others stated that at above 10% extraction the joint support behavior starts to degrade. 10% is the sweet spot. The Ketosterones are just a part of what causes the many benefits of Cissus. I would use a lower extraction to get the broad spectrum of benefits.
yeah, right, show me the studies that prove that...
I also saw the MD and FLEX articles where they said the higher the ketos the best, of course that companies that sell lower extracts wouldn't say that , for me the Jacob statement don't make any sense but if you prove me with studies I`ll change my mind...
 



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undoubtedly the entire cissus plant has a theraputic action, what was stated was that the ketosterones have more of an anabolic efffect more then anything and in order to get the best of both worlds one would want to have alot of the whole plant in there and only so much of the concentrated Ketos.

Now wether or not this is really factual or not I dont know. But it does go to say that the ketos are not the only thing that are benififting you and at the price you can find supercissus in bulk I dont see why one wouldnt just buy it that way and then mega dose the difference in the percentage of ketos

(ie 100mg of 50% = 50mg of keto and only 50mg of the rest
while 500mg of 10% = 50mg of keto and 450mg of the rest)

100g of 10% is 12 bucks while
100g 0f 50% is 29 bucks

now I know its a fifth the mgs of ketos for a third the price but like I said the effects of the whole plant arent completely negligable.... so Im certian its still the better deal.
 
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undoubtedly the entire cissus plant has a theraputic action, what was stated was that the ketosterones have more of an anabolic efffect more then anything and in order to get the best of both worlds one would want to have alot of the whole plant in there and only so much of the concentrated Ketos.

Now wether or not this is really factual or not I dont know. But it does go to say that the ketos are not the only thing that are benififting you and at the price you can find supercissus in bulk I dont see why one wouldnt just buy it that way and then mega dose the difference in the percentage of ketos

(ie 100mg of 50% = 50mg of keto and only 50mg of the rest
while 500mg of 10% = 50mg of keto and 450mg of the rest)

100g of 10% is 12 bucks while
100g 0f 50% is 29 bucks

now I know its a fifth the mgs of ketos for a third the price but like I said the effects of the whole plant arent completely negligable.... so Im certian its still the better deal.
I personally wont change the brand I use(primaforce), I tried both and I prefer the 40%extract and the price its basically the same, but I understand that some people may chose usp, I just don't like to see commercial claims without a scientific back up, as I said before only after I see them is possible to me to change my mind , until then I think that by my personal experience the higher the ketos the best
 



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What does put me off abit from buying USPlabs Products is the hype they use for there products along with them not being clear whats in some of there products i.e PowerFULL, also the company is relatively new.
 
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Hi there guys,

Anybody have any idea which is better. The Mega Cissus from MyProtein has 50% Ketosterone and is priced at £18.95. While Usplabs Super Cissus RX is stated to only have 10% Ketosterone and is priced at £24.99.

Going from this it seems MyProteins Mega Cissus is the better deal/product.

Or am I missing something ?
Id be very suprised if anyone took both of these supps for a few months and noticed the difference between the two.

Go the cheaper option.
 



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Im on USP SuperCissus right now.

When I finish up I will run Primaforce again for comparison.

Right now I am making solid gains while healing a few nagging injuries.
 
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Im on USP SuperCissus right now.

When I finish up I will run Primaforce again for comparison.

Right now I am making solid gains while healing a few nagging injuries.
Would you say that the pain killing/anti-inflammatory effects of Cissus are simiular to those of Ibuprofen as claimed ?
 
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