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  2. Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    USPlabsReperson should be on to Chief Chef Bob for populating interest addressing on here tell me, what you think.
    "To your wife you should kiss try today"-Touey

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    USPlabsReperson should be on to Chief Chef Bob for populating interest addressing on here tell me, what you think.
    Never drink Whey alone (unless you have a casein allergy) ESPECIALLY after a workout or in the Mornings (or anytime you are supplementing protein powder for food) and NEVER drink only Casien before bed combine it with Whey...

    It shouldn't be a debate....Protein is the single most important substance for muscle building, recovery and immunity, we should listen to the science..

  4. Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    Never drink Whey alone (unless you have a casein allergy) ESPECIALLY after a workout or in the Mornings (or anytime you are supplementing protein powder for food) and NEVER drink only Casien before bed combine it with Whey...

    It shouldn't be a debate....Protein is the single most important substance for muscle building, recovery and immunity, we should listen to the science..
    Noone will disagree in this day that is the proper protocol am always taking both plus feeling better digestion in the combination.
    "To your wife you should kiss try today"-Touey

    Brotato's bark brings shakes to the pups in the yard

  5. There will be a Coop's corner on this in the near future when I have the time. I'll link back to this thread for further reading.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    There will be a Coop's corner on this in the near future when I have the time. I'll link back to this thread for further reading.
    cooper's corner...drugs or prostitution?

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    "To your wife you should kiss try today"-Touey

    Brotato's bark brings shakes to the pups in the yard

  8. Is it really that important?. How much of a miniscule difference is it going to make, when considering a persons diet as a whole?.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
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    It's not a picture, its a link to download a pdf file.

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    It's not a picture, its a link to download a pdf file.
    Ahh iPhone won't grab it fml

  12. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Is it really that important?. How much of a miniscule difference is it going to make, when considering a persons diet as a whole?.
    How many shakes do you have a day? If it's 2-4 shakes (supplying 50-100g of dietary protein), the difference is considerable.

    If you're having 1 shake a day, you won't notice changes overnight...but let's say you have 1 shake a day, 365 days a year. That's over 6,500 grams of protein that could have been from a superior source
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    USPlabsReperson should be on to Chief Chef Bob for populating interest addressing on here tell me, what you think.
    Thats why i mix whey with yogurt Best of both worlds for protein sludge/pudding.
    Dont be hating i add greek yogurt in most of my recipes. Way ahead of you there son
    Alan Aragon dropped the hammer on this about 3-4 years ago.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    How many shakes do you have a day? If it's 2-4 shakes (supplying 50-100g of dietary protein), the difference is considerable.

    If you're having 1 shake a day, you won't notice changes overnight...but let's say you have 1 shake a day, 365 days a year. That's over 6,500 grams of protein that could have been from a superior source

    I don't often supplement with protein. When I do I have 1 to 2 protein drinks a day. Normally, I'll eat something else within 30-45 minutes after the protein drink though. I never use it replace a meal, it's always in addition to a meal. Sometimes as a "dessert" to combat boredom of lower carb eating. For instance, after working out, I'll come home have a protein drink, relax a bit on the computer, take a shower and then have some eggs or steak. As far as superior, how much difference is that going to make in the grand scheme of things?. Maybe things like this are more important to say professional bodybuilders, or other competitive athletes but I'm just trying to stay healthy as I age. So I just may have a different perspective as to what is considerable and what is negligible.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I don't often supplement with protein. When I do I have 1 to 2 protein drinks a day. Normally, I'll eat something else within 30-45 minutes after the protein drink though. I never use it replace a meal, it's always in addition to a meal. Sometimes as a "dessert" to combat boredom of lower carb eating. For instance, after working out, I'll come home have a protein drink, relax a bit on the computer, take a shower and then have some eggs or steak. As far as superior, how much difference is that going to make in the grand scheme of things?. Maybe things like this are more important to say professional bodybuilders, or other competitive athletes but I'm just trying to stay healthy as I age. So I just may have a different perspective as to what is considerable and what is negligible.
    It's not about whether or not you use it for a meal replacement. Regardless of when you consume it (or with what), it's contributing to your daily protein intake

  16. I can't understand why Whey is being crucified, I have used natural HWPI for the past year and my results have been nothing short of impressive. I must admit though my training and nutrition have been on point 95% of the time.

    Perhaps science proves a blend is optimal, it just doesn't seem as though the difference will be noticeable especially when considering one's diet.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Philosophy View Post
    I can't understand why Whey is being crucified, I have used natural HWPI for the past year and my results have been nothing short of impressive. I must admit though my training and nutrition have been on point 95% of the time.

    Perhaps science proves a blend is optimal, it just doesn't seem as though the difference will be noticeable especially when considering one's diet.


    That is what I guess I'm confused about. How much of a difference is it really going to make?. I mean as long as you meet your protein requirements with food and some protein supplementation...They type of protein you eat shouldn't make any negligible difference in "results". I'd be more concerned with the amount.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Philosophy View Post
    I can't understand why Whey is being crucified, I have used natural HWPI for the past year and my results have been nothing short of impressive. I must admit though my training and nutrition have been on point 95% of the time.

    Perhaps science proves a blend is optimal, it just doesn't seem as though the difference will be noticeable especially when considering one's diet.
    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    That is what I guess I'm confused about. How much of a difference is it really going to make?. I mean as long as you meet your protein requirements with food and some protein supplementation...They type of protein you eat shouldn't make any negligible difference in "results". I'd be more concerned with the amount.
    Whey rocks, no one is crucifying it. It's just crazy that every muscle mag boasts about absorption speeds when the study in OP demonstrates that it has zero relevance to anabolism.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Whey rocks, no one is crucifying it. It's just crazy that every muscle mag boasts about absorption speeds when the study in OP demonstrates that it has zero relevance to anabolism.
    That due to it all going to same spot portal circulation into amino acid pool and we use what we need???

  20. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    That due to it all going to same spot portal circulation into amino acid pool and we use what we need???
    I can't understand this post lol

  21. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    I can't understand this post lol
    I tend to do that haha.

    Blended or not doesn't all protein go into the amino acid pool. And the body use what is necessary which is why it doesn't matter if its blended protein or not?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    I tend to do that haha.

    Blended or not doesn't all protein go into the amino acid pool. And the body use what is necessary which is why it doesn't matter if its blended protein or not?
    Now we're getting into "coop's corner" material, but no, it's not so simple. There is a ceiling to protein synthesis, as is there a threshold for significant levels of gluconeogenesis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Now we're getting into "coop's corner" material, but no, it's not so simple. There is a ceiling to protein synthesis, as is there a threshold for significant levels of gluconeogenesis.
    Which many do not understand, and some people still abide by that stupid ass muscle and fitness i must throw down a shake and eat a meal 45-60 minutes later when in reality that has no proper benefits to MPS or allowing protein levels to reach their refractory stages at all. Hence Layne's MPS Research regarding less meals and BCAA useage.

    Some people just dont get it and think every 2-3 hours is a must when in reality there is no benefit towards protein synthesis due to the constant overlap of food .
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    That due to it all going to same spot portal circulation into amino acid pool and we use what we need???
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I can't understand this post lol
    Do not worry EBF I understand just fine plus now know how it vexing to me some time
    "To your wife you should kiss try today"-Touey

    Brotato's bark brings shakes to the pups in the yard

  25. Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Which many do not understand, and some people still abide by that stupid ass muscle and fitness i must throw down a shake and eat a meal 45-60 minutes later when in reality that has no proper benefits to MPS or allowing protein levels to reach their refractory stages at all. Hence Layne's MPS Research regarding less meals and BCAA useage.

    Some people just dont get it and think every 2-3 hours is a must when in reality there is no benefit towards protein synthesis due to the constant overlap of food .
    So then you would just make your meals larger in order to hit macros and utilize BCAAs between those meals? How many meals? 3-4?
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