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    Quote Originally Posted by borobulker View Post
    Thanks bud... just keep the flying arm bars to yourself, ok!

    I'll try.....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    Cool, definitely interesting stuff!!
    Most certainly... Pretty promising...
    Thanks for the comments!
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    Can't wait to see how this stack works out, looks solid. Think that I will definitely give it a whirl, since it pretty much has everything in it that I currently take, which would be: Nocturnabol, GABA, ZMA and macuna pruriens. Haven't ever really tried a sleep supp that I didn't like. I kinda cut the same way you do, but my endurance is what goes first, strength to some degree as well, main difference is that I'm not a powerlifer. My reccovery has always been better after adding a dose of Macuna Pruriens, I notice it kicking in after I've been on it a few days. Good luck with it boss!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    Can't wait to see how this stack works out, looks solid. Think that I will definitely give it a whirl, since it pretty much has everything in it that I currently take, which would be: Nocturnabol, GABA, ZMA and macuna pruriens. Haven't ever really tried a sleep supp that I didn't like. I kinda cut the same way you do, but my endurance is what goes first, strength to some degree as well, main difference is that I'm not a powerlifer. My reccovery has always been better after adding a dose of Macuna Pruriens, I notice it kicking in after I've been on it a few days. Good luck with it boss!!

    Thanks again for the comments buddy!
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    Just got done dragging the sled... Going to work with the foam roller now...

    Hope to post sometime tonight...
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    500th post...
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    BONUS POST: SELF MYOFASCIAL RELEASE


    My personal stash of recovery goodness.
    1 - AXIS Foam Roller (12")
    1 - AXIS Foam Roller (12", cut in half)
    1 - Tennis Ball

    I need to formally thank PMiller for opening my eyes to SMFR work. I wanted to post some links for the folks that are not incorporating it into their training/life.

    Myofascial Release is a form of bodywork (complementary medicine) which includes, but is not limited to structural assessments (where a formal diagnosis is not necessarily given) and manual massage techniques for stretching the fascia and releasing bonds between fascia, integument, muscles, and bones are mainly applied; with the goal of eliminating pain, increasing range of motion and balancing the body.
    YouTube - Self Myofascial Release

    Must See Links

    Wikipedia | Online Encyclopedia

    T-Nation.com | Feel better for Ten Bucks

    Elite Fitness Systems | Rehab Tools

    Sports Fitness Advisor| SMFR Exercises

    Coach Nick Tumminello | Hamstring Flexibility Secrect w/ SMFR Video

    Coach Nick Tumminello | Secrets of Self Myofascial Release DVD

    Self-Myofascial Release Techniques | Micheal Clark, MS,PT,PES,CSCS

    Elite Fitness Systems | Rehabilitation Exercise Index

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    They do it; why don't you?
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    Date: 07/05/2008

    Quality of Prior Nights Sleep: Last night was my second dose of the GHSR use. I waited 65-70 minutes after consuming my last meal (tuna and spinich) and dosed my GHSR stack. I followed "Dosing suggestion #3" as outlined by Millennium Sport Technologies in their testing sheet i received with my products.

    The third (recommended for fastest action) method is sublingual dosing where the 6 gram serving (you may do a half (3 grams X 2) at a time for ease) is held under the tongue until dissolved. For those who arn't comfortable with dry powder in their mouth check into suggestion number 2.
    It dissolved with no issues. It wasn't weird or uncomfortable or anything. This will probably be my method of administration for now on.

    I cannot give you the minute by minute coverage i did with my last post, due to some "extra activity" i took part in. :chick:

    Anyway, afterwords i was out cold.

    Once again, i woke up BEFORE MY ALARM!!! This is so great. I cannot wait to utilize these products during school, when i am really pressed for time.

    I did not have any dreams that i remember but i am still waiting to experience the vivid dreams that some have promised. All in all, another great nights sleep.

    Morning Energy: Great pep. i was very hungry once again, so i ran downstairs to start making breakfast. No complaints in the energy department.

    Diet: Today was a "Low" day.

    Low Day (2 per week, No training on these days, cardio/GPP work preferred)
    The calorie amounts are set up so that you can change foods anytime you want. You only count the protein in the protein foods, the carbs in the carb foods, and the fat in the fat foods.

    So, if you have steak as a meal, and you're supposed to add 7g of fat....you only count the protein in the steak, not the fat. The 7g of fat will come from the fat sources. And if you have oatmeal in a meal and it has 8g of protein, you don't count that towards your protein.

    Meal Plan
    Meal 1 (60g Pro, 35 Carb,7g Fat)

    Meal 2 (60g Pro, 35 Carb,7g Fat)

    Meal 3 (60g Pro, 35 Carb,7g Fat)

    Meal 4 (60g pro, 0 Carb, 14g Fat)

    Meal 5 (60g pro, 0 Carb, 14g Fat)

    Meal 6 (60g pro, 0 Carb, 14g Fat)

    Meal N (2 scoops MM)

    Protein List:
    Lean Ground Beef
    Chicken Breast
    Turkey Breast
    Egg Whites
    Protein Drinks

    Carb List:
    brown rice
    potatoes
    oats
    yams
    Plain or lightly salted rice cakes
    white rice
    sugar free quaker oat packets
    lower sugar quaker oat packets (on high day)
    ezekiel bread

    Fat List:
    borage oil
    evening primrose oil
    fish oil
    cashews
    almonds
    natural peanut butter
    almond butter
    macadamia nut butter
    olive oil

    Supplementation:
    7:45am - 1 USP Labs Recreate, 1 USP Labs Anabolic Pump, 1 RPN Gut Health, 2 NP Fish Oil Caps
    12:30am - 1 Serving of MST Somnidren GH, 1 Serving MST ZMK

    Training: NONE

    Cardio/GPP Work: 30 mins of sled dragging (see pic above), approximately 2500ft w/ ~130lbs. 10 mins of various ab work and SMFR work, post GPP.

    Mood: Great mood. I worked all day and besides one minor emergency, the fitness center was just fine.

    BREAKING NEWS: Read the links i posted about SMFR... Do it...

    Thanks for watching!!!
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    I always take my doses sublingually. Not only do I feel it works faster and better, but it keeps less liquid going in at once since I take the 4 zmk with water. I usually drink some bcaa's maybe 20-30 mins beforehand...so with that much liquid I damn near piss myself in the morning on the way to the bathroom, haha.

    Did you experience any enhanced..."pleasure" right as you finished your extra cirricular activity post bed? I have noticed anytime I dose and then have some fun afterwards before sleep....the ending always seem to have more fireworks than any other night.
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    So if you are taking the sublingual dose, should we take the ZMK at the exact same time? Is there any wait btwn administration of doses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Monk View Post
    So if you are taking the sublingual dose, should we take the ZMK at the exact same time? Is there any wait btwn administration of doses?
    No wait period necessary. I take my zmk first with water and then immediately after, I take my somnidren under the tongue.
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    Sublingual Somnidren FTW!

    Boro, very NICE job on the log brother. I need to give ZMK a try with the Somnidren now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Sublingual Somnidren FTW!

    Boro, very NICE job on the log brother. I need to give ZMK a try with the Somnidren now.
    I think you'd enjoy the benefits bro. Speaking of benefits...have I mentioned how awesome DCP is treating me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    I think you'd enjoy the benefits bro. Speaking of benefits...have I mentioned how awesome DCP is treating me?
    It's good stuff eh?

    Glad you're enjoying it my friend. I'm going to pick up some ZMK and utilize it shortly.

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    Excellent log so far Boro, especially the SMFR links. Been doing it for awhile now, as well as chiropractics among other things. Highly recommend it, as well as a good massage after a very hard workout, always works wonders for me. Go get 'em man!! Nice pick of the sled by the way, awesome!!
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    I'm getting my ZMK soon. What do you guys think is the best time to take it from your experience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    It's good stuff eh?

    Glad you're enjoying it my friend. I'm going to pick up some ZMK and utilize it shortly.
    Let me know how it treats ya homie
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    Quote Originally Posted by planetfuzz View Post
    I'm getting my ZMK soon. What do you guys think is the best time to take it from your experience?
    Before bed on an empty stomach. Make sure you haven't had any calcium in at least 2 hours prior to taking ZMK and you're golden!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    Let me know how it treats ya homie
    Will do.

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    This is good stuff Boro, I just started my log, but I took first does last night!

    Did you get that tingle with somnidren? I loved it lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    I always take my doses sublingually. Not only do I feel it works faster and better, but it keeps less liquid going in at once since I take the 4 zmk with water. I usually drink some bcaa's maybe 20-30 mins beforehand...so with that much liquid I damn near piss myself in the morning on the way to the bathroom, haha.

    Did you experience any enhanced..."pleasure" right as you finished your extra cirricular activity post bed? I have noticed anytime I dose and then have some fun afterwards before sleep....the ending always seem to have more fireworks than any other night.
    I was hoping for some extra fireworks but nothing to note. I will try this "experiment" again. Strictly for research purposes. I dosed about 30 seconds pre-fun, ill stagger it out a few minutes next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Monk View Post
    So if you are taking the sublingual dose, should we take the ZMK at the exact same time? Is there any wait btwn administration of doses?
    I have been taking my Somnidren first, then I have been chewing my ZMK, they are very loosely packed. I only wait about 15 seconds, if that. I figure there will be enough absorption/digestion lag with the methods of administration.

    Goes down well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Sublingual Somnidren FTW!

    Boro, very NICE job on the log brother. I need to give ZMK a try with the Somnidren now.
    Thanks buddy... I have used ZMK as a standalone before and i did notice pronounced differences in sleep quality and depth, as well as recovery. The two together are pretty damn serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    Excellent log so far Boro, especially the SMFR links. Been doing it for awhile now, as well as chiropractics among other things. Highly recommend it, as well as a good massage after a very hard workout, always works wonders for me. Go get 'em man!! Nice pick of the sled by the way, awesome!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    This is good stuff Boro, I just started my log, but I took first does last night!

    Did you get that tingle with somnidren? I loved it lol.

    Yeah, as i wrote before, i got like a "fluffy", mild tingle feeling which started in my extremities and moved proximally. Great to here you like it as much as i do...

    Ill be over to check your thread after work... thanks for stopping in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by borobulker View Post
    I have been taking my Somnidren first, then I have been chewing my ZMK, they are very loosely packed. I only wait about 15 seconds, if that. I figure there will be enough absorption/digestion lag with the methods of administration.

    Goes down well...

    Same mate.... I have been basically eating the zmk, they fall apart real easy. Personally I really like it. Since i fight to swallow pills(i can just takes a minute) its nice that they basically crumble in your mouth, and they dont tase bad either! Kinda like those zinc tablets I used to suck on as a kid, anyone else ever use those? But I have been taking ZMK, then somnidren but I plan to toss things around a bit to see if anything matters about order.
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    Date: 07/07/2008

    Quality of Prior Nights Sleep: Another great nights sleep, i slept hard. I didnt work today, so i slept in. My girl had to come in and shake me and tell me it was time to get my lazy ass up. Great sleep, hopefully i can dose a little earlier tonight.

    Morning Energy: Decent energy. I was kind of groggy, not hungover but i was a little groggy feeling. I think this was due to late dosing and sleeping in.

    Diet: Today was a "moderate day" as outlined earlier in the log. I did however have a semi-cheat meal at Panera Bread. I had the chipotle chicken, the food seems to be much higher quality than that of other "fast food" options.


    Meal #6 ~10:00pm
    7oz Extra Lean Ground Beef
    Sliced Squash
    1oz Almonds
    ~Red Beans

    Supplementation:
    11:00am - 2 USP Labs Recreate, 1 USP Labs Anabolic Pump, 1 RPN Gut Health, 1 NP Fish Oil, 1 Bayer Multi Vitamin
    3:30pm - 1 USP Labs Recreate, 1 USP Labs Anabolic Pump
    5:30pm - 3 Get Diesel Ready4War
    6:00pm - 6 Scoops Scivation Xtend, 1 Scoop Isopure WPI
    8:00pm - 1 Scoop Isopure WPI
    11:30am - 1 Serving of MST Somnidren GH, 1 Serving MST ZMK

    Training: DYNAMIC EFFORT, UPPER BODY I use a basic, slightly modified Westside Barbell powerlifting template.

    a. Speed Bench Press, 145lbs+Black Bands (Monster Mini's) 3 different grips = Wide x 3 , Conventional x 4, Close x 3.
    b. Floor DB Tricep Extensions (RK Krushers), ~60 Reps = 55x8, 50x10, 50x8, 45x8, 45x8, 40x9, 40x8.
    c. Cable Rear Delt Flyes = 40x12, 40x14, 40x15.
    d. Standing DB Front Raises = 35x10, 35x11.
    e. Seated Cable Rows = 255x10, 255x10, 225x10.
    f. DB Press, 50lbs = 1 min max, 36 reps.
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    20 min dog walk, post workout while sipping on shake

    Cardio/GPP Work: 20 min dog walk, post workout while sipping on shake

    Mood: Great mood, day was busy and went quick.

    BREAKING NEWS: My bicep tendon did not hurt nearly as bad as it did last week. This is great. Also, quick workout tonight, it only took us about 80 mins. I was drenched in sweat. I cannot wait to train tomorrow to see how my strength has changed.

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    Man you can sure log, mine I feel inadaquet, I mean you even take pictures of your food! lol. Tommorow will be my first WO, BI/Back, cant wait to see how I feel. I hope you continue to enjoy yourself Boro!
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    I too have been enjoying the sleep from this stack. How have you been dosing your GH? I've been taking it on training days only since it says to take it 5 on and 2 off. Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    Man you can sure log, mine I feel inadaquet, I mean you even take pictures of your food! lol. Tommorow will be my first WO, BI/Back, cant wait to see how I feel. I hope you continue to enjoy yourself Boro!
    Thanks for the kind words buddy! Ill be watching your log... make me proud!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebo View Post
    I too have been enjoying the sleep from this stack. How have you been dosing your GH? I've been taking it on training days only since it says to take it 5 on and 2 off. Just curious.
    Sublingual administration.

    I am taking the next two nights off, i didnt feel quite the rush of relaxation i normally do last night. Hopefully these two nights will help that.

    I did however have some of the wildest dreams i have ever had last night.
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    Nice, keep it up Boss!! Oh, and thanks for the food pick, now I have to go eat.....again!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    Nice, keep it up Boss!! Oh, and thanks for the food pick, now I have to go eat.....again!!

    haha at least i am inspiring you in positive ways!
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    Date: 07/08/2008

    Quality of Prior Nights Sleep: I could not get to sleep quite as easily as i had been. I am taking two full nights off of the GHSR stack to see if i can get feeling back. Ill keep you updated.

    Morning Energy: Decent energy. I slept in again, nothing too different.

    Diet: Today was a "High Day". I had a lot of carbs. My girlfriends family had a big dinner planned (grilled chicken breasts and salt potatoes) so i got yoked when i got home from the gym! Lots 'o food.

    Supplementation:
    11:00am - 2 USP Labs Recreate, 1 USP Labs Anabolic Pump, 1 RPN Gut Health, 1 NP Fish Oil, 1 Bayer Multi Vitamin
    3:30pm - 1 USP Labs Recreate, 1 USP Labs Anabolic Pump
    5:30pm - 3 Get Diesel Ready4War
    6:00pm - 6 Scoops Scivation Xtend, 1 Scoop Isopure WPI
    8:00pm - 1 Scoop Isopure WPI
    11:30am - No night time supps.

    Training: MAX EFFORT, LOWER BODY

    a. Box Squats (14"), Average Bands + Light Bands + Monster Mini Bands = 225x3, 275x2, 295x1, 315(~500 at the top) x1 (i had to call it quits because of my bicep tendon)
    b. Machine Hamstring Curls = 60x10, 60x8, 60x8, 70x7
    c. Mock Rev Hypers (Hanging over hyper machine), + red band = 15, 12, 14
    d. DB Rows = 120x10, 120x11, 120x8
    e. Light Hammer Curls = 35x20, 35x15, 35x10
    f. Standing Ab work

    Cardio/GPP Work: None.

    Mood: Not feeling the best, it was 95 degrees out, so this may have had something to do with it.

    BREAKING NEWS: I am hungry.

    Thanks for watching!!!
    Last edited by borobulker; 07-12-2008 at 06:11 PM.
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    Nice!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    Nice!!
    thanks bud
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    Great log, see that your even posting pics of your food lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrasslin116 View Post
    Great log, see that your even posting pics of your food lol.

    thanks, yeah i post pics of my food all of the time. check out my other logs. they are pretty detailed.

    thanks again
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    I took the night off because I didnt get to eat untl 15 minutes ago.... friggin dumb. Just ZMK for me tonight. BTW i noticed I didnt get my fuzzy feeling last night.... this I take it is why the 2 days off is good then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    I took the night off because I didnt get to eat untl 15 minutes ago.... friggin dumb. Just ZMK for me tonight. BTW i noticed I didnt get my fuzzy feeling last night.... this I take it is why the 2 days off is good then?
    right, i am doing the same thing.

    for the rest of the log, i will be taking it only sun/mon off then wed/thur nights...

    fri/sat off.
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