3-AD: Putting "thesinner" back in "synergy"

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  1. Oh, and here's a pretty picture of the bottle.


    And to stress this point (as I've gotten a few PM's and emails),
    THIS IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COMPOUND THAN 11-OXO!!
    I think that should make it pretty clear. And just to reitterate,
    THIS IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COMPOUND THAN 11-OXO!!


  2. so..........this and 11-oxo are completely different?
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  3. Is 3-AD still not available to the general public?

    Is that the reason you cannot divulge its contents? That seems really silly to me.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MacTech View Post
    Is 3-AD still not available to the general public?

    Is that the reason you cannot divulge its contents? That seems really silly to me.
    It is merely a process of Innovation Protection (IP).

    If we gave out info on the ingredients before it was released, what's stopping Johnny Generic from sourcing the raws from Black China, and selling it for half the cost because they didn't have to spend any money researching the stuff. Due to the laws of Economics, that's gonna take a huge chunk out of our sales. In other words, making the ingredient profile of this product public before it's initial release is just throwing away sales. That pretty much negates the whole point of even doing anticipatory alpha-tester logs, doesn't it?

    In all truthfulness, any IP process seems somewhat asinine; however, they can be very effective in keeping sensitive information away from competators. You should look up the IP procedures for Krispy Kreme Donuts. (very famous IP procedure)

    I used to work for an autoparts supplier, and we used a lenthly set of different coding systems for the ingredients for our parts. In other words, if you had the recipe from our china plant, you would have to go through several additional decoding processes just to figure out that ingredient "0050891 A" was Zinc Oxide (for example). Even at this degree of detail, we still lost a few million dollars (annually) due to conterfeit sales. (In other people were buying bunk parts made by nobody, instead of our real deal stuff).

  5. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    It is merely a process of Innovation Protection (IP).

    If we gave out info on the ingredients before it was released, what's stopping Johnny Generic from sourcing the raws from Black China, and selling it for half the cost because they didn't have to spend any money researching the stuff. Due to the laws of Economics, that's gonna take a huge chunk out of our sales. In other words, making the ingredient profile of this product public before it's initial release is just throwing away sales. That pretty much negates the whole point of even doing anticipatory alpha-tester logs, doesn't it?

    In all truthfulness, any IP process seems somewhat asinine; however, they can be very effective in keeping sensitive information away from competators. You should look up the IP procedures for Krispy Kreme Donuts. (very famous IP procedure)

    I used to work for an autoparts supplier, and we used a lenthly set of different coding systems for the ingredients for our parts. In other words, if you had the recipe from our china plant, you would have to go through several additional decoding processes just to figure out that ingredient "0050891 A" was Zinc Oxide (for example). Even at this degree of detail, we still lost a few million dollars (annually) due to conterfeit sales. (In other people were buying bunk parts made by nobody, instead of our real deal stuff).

    I saw that question and just thought to myself "cover our asses from wannabes." Your answer works well though too lol
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  6. I do understand fully about IP being a software developer. Due to not enough coffee, my statement was incomplete about being silly. It should say if it is being sold now, then that seems rather silly.

    If the product is still not being sold, then I completely understand. I thought it would be by now, as it was supposedly going to be available last year.

    Good luck and I look forward to someday trying it.

  7. How could I miss this log!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by MacTech View Post
    I do understand fully about IP being a software developer. Due to not enough coffee, my statement was incomplete about being silly. It should say if it is being sold now, then that seems rather silly.

    If the product is still not being sold, then I completely understand. I thought it would be by now, as it was supposedly going to be available last year.

    Good luck and I look forward to someday trying it.
    Yes yes, this is actually the alpha-test (i.e. test of a pilot run to see if 3-AD is good enough for a production run). The higher ups were so confident of this new formula (we've improved upon what we had last year to make this worth the wait) that we're having the alpha-tests public.

  9. Hey guys.

    about 20 minutes after my last post, let's just say I was feeling my first dose a little too much.

    Instead of taking the suggested 2 caps every 8 hours, I will be cutting down to 1 cap every 4 hours, in attempt to minizime spikes in serum concentration of this particular ingredient.

  10. subd sexy Robot pirate monkey
    Last edited by Zombie; 03-24-2008 at 06:11 PM. Reason: fixed

  11. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    that's ROBOT pirate monkey, thank you very much!!
    Fixed, and good luck, sinner Rock with your 3-ad out

  12. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Hey guys.

    about 20 minutes after my last post, let's just say I was feeling my first dose a little too much.
    Whoa! You can feel it after just 1 dose?! What was it that you were feeling?

  13. I assume you are taking this with 15-20g of fat right?
    NSCA-CSCS and CPT - Doctor of Physical Therapy

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Bionic View Post
    Whoa! You can feel it after just 1 dose?! What was it that you were feeling?
    one of the ingredients.......

  15. OK, I found a new 3-ad log....give it hell for goats everywhere!
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  16. no ADD when it comes to 3-AD!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by haiz69 View Post
    I assume you are taking this with 15-20g of fat right?
    yeppers. a lot of fat is needed to ensure optimal absoption

    Whoa! You can feel it after just 1 dose?! What was it that you were feeling?
    3-AD has a few synergysts in it. The one in question, I am abnormally sensitive to. It was a strange feeling, I can't really describe it.

    It is not a stimulant. (In case anyone is wondering).

  18. First workout since, 3-AD has coursed this robot pirate monkey's veins. I must say, I made significant improvements since my last 1B workout. I either went up in weight, or went up by 2 reps. (I have 6 workouts I am doing: 1A Legs/Shoulders, 2A Chest/Tris, 3A Back/Bis, 1B Legs/Shoulders, 2B Chest/Tris, 3B Back/Bis.)

    ATG Front Squat: 185*15
    Walking Lunges: 55*20
    DB Military Press: 75*14
    DB Side Laterals: 30*9
    Seated Calf Raise: 190*10
    Walkouts: 17

    Other notes:
    -Hunger has been up. On the meals I take 3-AD (even with all that extra fat, which usually sits in my stomach and leaves me full), I'm hungry like a half hour later.
    -I had trouble getting to sleep last night, but also took my last cap at 8pm (and like to go to bed ~9:30-10:00). I'm gonna try to take my last dose at 6pm, as to let the stuff clear, and hopefully get to sleep a li'l better.

  19. Awesome that your doing a DC training style while using 3-AD, seems like that would be one of the if not he best way to gauge tangible increases in the gym.

  20. Just to update on the "effect", since I started taking it once every 3-4hrs, I haven't had a problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    Awesome that your doing a DC training style while using 3-AD, seems like that would be one of the if not he best way to gauge tangible increases in the gym.
    I take a lot of aspects from DC, Max OT, and HST to incorporate into my training.

    I don't do the same frequency as DC, though. I'm workin' out Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, and rotating between the 6.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Just to update on the "effect", since I started taking it once every 3-4hrs, I haven't had a problem.


    I take a lot of aspects from DC, Max OT, and HST to incorporate into my training.

    I don't do the same frequency as DC, though. I'm workin' out Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, and rotating between the 6.
    cool training split, all solid principles. How long have you been doing it this way? Has it been for some time and your body is use to it or recent switch that may help with gains?

  22. I've been training under these guidelines for a while, about a year now.

    I had recently shuffled together Leg and Shoulders day about a month ago. So instead of the old 1,2,3,4 A&B I've cut it down to 1,2,3 A&B.

    I don't change my routines for "maximizing gains" while on cycle, however. I strongly believe this idea doesn't pan out in real life and is a possible contribution to "post cycle losses".
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