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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Interesting that you had that response.
    Was almost like too much of a good thing worked in reverse to start with. Might have been a bit of a mental game too though..
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    Yeah that's lot of g8 lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Yeah that's lot of g8 lol
    Was a total accident. Busy talking to my daughter and had prepped a protein shake, bcaas for the morning (with heaping scoops of course) and well followed suit.. realized as i dumped it in.
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    The Great G8 Mistake

    sounds like a good title for a book
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    The Great G8 Mistake

    sounds like a good title for a book
    Has a good ring to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    The Great G8 Mistake

    sounds like a good title for a book
    I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1ifeblood View Post
    Dude... you're a fūckin OX brotha. You've got great strength which is nothing to sneeze at (where the hell does that phrase even come from). Anyway, be proud of what you've accomplished. Because honestly, would you rather have the loose skin or have it stretched taught by the stuff that USED to be there? You're our bro, we love you, now put up some fūckin NOODZ!
    Ask and you shal recieve...

    “To sneeze at” something or someone is a colloquial usage, first appearing in the early 19th century, meaning “to regard as of little worth; to disparage, disregard or despise” (“It’s a sort of thing a young fellow of my expectations ought to sneeze at,” 1806). This sense may seem odd, since demonstrating contempt is a deliberate act and sneezing usually isn’t, but it’s helpful to note that the original sense of the verb included “snorting” as well as sneezing, so “to sneeze at” something or someone is rhetorically equivalent to snorting in derision or distaste. The use of “sneeze at” today is almost always in the negative “nothing to sneeze at” or similar forms, meaning that the thing under consideration may appear modest or trivial but is actually at least somewhat important or impressive (“As I am situated, £300 or £400 a-year is not to be sneezed at,” 1813).

    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    I did this with G8 as well. Had reverse effect... took me forever to fall asleep, was very restless. But once out, I was out.
    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Interesting that you had that response.
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    Was almost like too much of a good thing worked in reverse to start with. Might have been a bit of a mental game too though..
    Some of the ingredients in most GH producing products if taken to high a dose go from being relaxing to causing anxiety due to overstimulation of the brain when crossing the barrier. I think the big one is GABA but it has been a very long time since I read the study. Yes it is pretty common for people to cause themselves anxiety with a large dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Ask and you shal recieve...

    “To sneeze at” something or someone is a colloquial usage, first appearing in the early 19th century, meaning “to regard as of little worth; to disparage, disregard or despise” (“It’s a sort of thing a young fellow of my expectations ought to sneeze at,” 1806). This sense may seem odd, since demonstrating contempt is a deliberate act and sneezing usually isn’t, but it’s helpful to note that the original sense of the verb included “snorting” as well as sneezing, so “to sneeze at” something or someone is rhetorically equivalent to snorting in derision or distaste. The use of “sneeze at” today is almost always in the negative “nothing to sneeze at” or similar forms, meaning that the thing under consideration may appear modest or trivial but is actually at least somewhat important or impressive (“As I am situated, £300 or £400 a-year is not to be sneezed at,” 1813).






    Some of the ingredients in most GH producing products if taken to high a dose go from being relaxing to causing anxiety due to overstimulation of the brain when crossing the barrier. I think the big one is GABA but it has been a very long time since I read the study. Yes it is pretty common for people to cause themselves anxiety with a large dose.
    ....hey weren't you the guy on Cheers!? Actually that was kinda interesting Chris.

    Figured that was likely the reason too much G8 was not as effective as the sweet spot for dosing.
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    10/25/2013 cont'd

    Day 1: Chest, Back Thickness - Tempo 40X0

    Superset 1

    Flat Bench Press
    165x10x10

    - Added 20lbs to the bar as I felt last week was just not enough. These 10 sets were definitely tougher, in fact I did have to pause a couple of times to finish on the last 2 sets. I will still kick it up another 10 lbs next week though.

    Bent Over Barbell Rows
    125x10x10


    Superset 2

    Machine Flies
    90x4x15

    Deadlifts
    160x4x12

    - Really focusing on form here. The last thing I want to do is tweak my back which I tend to do when going heavy on Deads, as well as Stiff Leg Deadlifts.

    Superset 3 - went for total burn out here today and added another set of exercises. Will probably do this on all days when I have the time/energy.

    Incline Dumbbell Bench - Hammer Grip
    50x3x10

    Seated Cable Rows
    90x3x10


    Bodyweight Crunches
    4 x 25

    - Big rounded scoop of Stimul8 taken 20 minutes prior. To say I was jacked is an understatement. Energy was very high, focus about the same. No negative feelings at all. The only thing I did notice was I did not have the normal appetite suppression effect. I was ready to scarf back my post workout meal 30 minutes later.

    - Upon reflection I can honestly say that 3/4 to 1 level scoop is just as effective. And the extra is certainly not needed.
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    holy smokes man, great session
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    I second this^^^^^, killin it bro!!
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    I've used that rounded scoop a few times and I haven't noticed difference in energy but did get more thermo effects. Definitely don't need that much for most guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 804 View Post
    holy smokes man, great session
    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    I second this^^^^^, killin it bro!!
    Thanks guys

    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    I've used that rounded scoop a few times and I haven't noticed difference in energy but did get more thermo effects. Definitely don't need that much for most guys.
    I used 3/4 today and was just as effective. And funny enough the appetite suppression was back (mind you that might have just been a one off yesterday). But I love how you can really stretch out a tub of this stuff - great on the wallet.
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    10/26/2013

    This morning go up and did a 5km (fasted with bcaasaa - in the pouring rain - chilled to the bone when I got back).

    Had to drive my daughter to work when I got back - so dosed my stimul8 (3/4 scoop) and was back and in the garage 25 minutes later - great session.

    Day 2: Legs

    Squats (ATG)
    185x10x10

    - used the 402 tempo, will be upping the way next week.

    Lying Legs Curls
    60x10x10


    Leg Extensions
    100x4x15

    Stiffleg Deadlifts
    135x4x10

    - rebooting these and starting light, actually got a fantastic stretch in hams (as with deadlifts working more on the form.)

    Standing Barbell Calf Raises
    165x4x15

    Ab Rollouts
    3x10


    - Stimul8 at 3/4 scoop was a great ride. Focused, energetic and locked in. Legs will be sore tomorrow
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    That's some great weight for gvt it looks like. Awesome session buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    That's some great weight for gvt it looks like. Awesome session buddy
    Thanks man.
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    Ripped it up man, that is a lot of sets.
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    10/27/2013

    Had a very busy day for a Sunday yesterday and did not get a chance to get online. Did get a great run and workout in, then had a few errands to do, before heading out of town to my parents for dinner and the evening.

    Morning started with a 6km run (fasted with exception of .75 scoop of Stimul8 - end of run was fantastic (smooth/fast))


    Shoulders and Back Width

    Seated Barbell Press:
    120x10x10

    -tempo was 40X0

    Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns:
    190x10x10

    -tempo was 40X0

    Face Pulls:
    90x4x15

    D-Grip Lat Pulldowns:
    160x4x15

    Shrugs:
    60x3x10

    Stretchers:
    120x3x10

    - Stimul8 once more providing killer focus, drive and energy.


    10/28/2013

    Today is a planned day off. I have had 8 runs in a row, so took a day off there as well. But I might do arms tonight if time permits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Ripped it up man, that is a lot of sets.
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    Man, I envy your shoulder presses. Nice work Wasme!
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    10/29/13

    Dosed a full scoop of Stimul8 on my way out the door this morning for a 5km run. I really enjoy that boost of energy about 15 minutes after my run starts.


    Arms


    SuperSet 1

    Close Grip Bench Press:
    130x10
    130x10
    130x10
    130x10
    130x10
    130x10
    130x9
    130x9
    130x8
    130x7

    Ez Bar Curls:
    85x10
    85x10
    85x10
    85x10
    85x10
    85x8
    85x10
    85x7
    85x8
    85x9

    - arms were pumped like crazy after this superset.


    Superset 2

    Vbar Tricep Pushdown:
    120x15
    120x15
    120x15
    120x13

    Preacher Curls:
    80x10
    80x10
    80x10
    80x10


    Superset 3

    Overhead Tricep Extensions:
    100x10
    100x10
    100x10

    Alternating Dumbbell Curls:
    35x10
    35x10
    35x10

    - (5L/5R/5L/5R for each set)

    Arms were pumped and very vascular after todays session. Mind/muscle connection was solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    Man, I envy your shoulder presses. Nice work Wasme!
    Thanks Thomas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Mind/muscle connection was solid.
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    Gooooood stuff homie! Making me look weak over here :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Gooooood stuff homie! Making me look weak over here :P
    Hardly! and thanks man
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    10/29/13

    Dosed a full scoop of Stimul8 on my way out the door this morning for a 5km run. I really enjoy that boost of energy about 15 minutes after my run starts.


    Arms


    SuperSet 1

    Close Grip Bench Press:
    130x10
    130x10
    130x10
    130x10
    130x10
    130x10
    130x9
    130x9
    130x8
    130x7

    Ez Bar Curls:
    85x10
    85x10
    85x10
    85x10
    85x10
    85x8
    85x10
    85x7
    85x8
    85x9

    - arms were pumped like crazy after this superset.


    Superset 2

    Vbar Tricep Pushdown:
    120x15
    120x15
    120x15
    120x13

    Preacher Curls:
    80x10
    80x10
    80x10
    80x10


    Superset 3

    Overhead Tricep Extensions:
    100x10
    100x10
    100x10

    Alternating Dumbbell Curls:
    35x10
    35x10
    35x10

    - (5L/5R/5L/5R for each set)

    Arms were pumped and very vascular after todays session. Mind/muscle connection was solid.
    Was this using the 60% of 10 rep max, seems it is the first time you started failing mid sets which is great. How did you like it with slightly the heavier weights? The hard work takes some of the monotony out of it, or did to me just because of the intensity in the latter sets.
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    Awesome updates!!! If it's one thing I know is I can always check in here to see my brother smacking the weights like they were pillows!!! Keep killing it brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Was this using the 60% of 10 rep max, seems it is the first time you started failing mid sets which is great. How did you like it with slightly the heavier weights? The hard work takes some of the monotony out of it, or did to me just because of the intensity in the latter sets.
    Yes or close to it anyway. I do find it a bit more engaging with slightly more weight and trying to keep that 4x tempo (which I find way harder to do the further I get into the sets). 10 sets is a lot though. As I tick each one off on my log sheet, I'm thinking f*ck me! lol And just turn the music louder.

    Quote Originally Posted by packers6211 View Post
    Awesome updates!!! If it's one thing I know is I can always check in here to see my brother smacking the weights like they were pillows!!! Keep killing it brother.
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    You are KILLING it big boy! I wish I could move the weight like you do!
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    10/30/13

    Went with 3/4 of a scoop of Stimul8 on my way out the door this morning for a 5km run.

    Once back mixed up some more BcAASAA's and into the garage.

    Day 1: Chest, Back Thickness - Tempo 40X0

    Superset 1

    Flat Bench Press
    165x10
    165x10
    165x10
    165x10
    165x10
    165x9
    165x9
    165x8
    165x7
    165x8

    - Last week I got this weight up 10x10. Really focused on the tempo this morning (focus was great through my entire session today). Perhaps my tempo was not on point last week.

    Bent Over Barbell Rows
    125x10
    125x10
    125x10
    125x10
    125x10
    125x10
    125x10
    125x10
    125x10
    125x10



    Superset 2

    Machine Flies
    90x15
    90x15
    90x15
    90x15

    Deadlifts
    160x10
    160x10
    160x9
    160x10


    Superset 3

    Incline Dumbbell Bench - Twist and press style
    50x10
    50x10
    50x8

    - found the twist and press style a little easier on my shoulder which is still nagging me.

    Seated Cable Rows
    110x10
    110x10
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1ifeblood View Post
    You are KILLING it big boy! I wish I could move the weight like you do!
    Thanks man... you aren't far behind.
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    Are you making up for the reps that you fail to complete? I don't remember off the top of my head, but I believe that you're supposed to make up for them somehow. I'll look it up.
    Either way, you're killing it and I'm glad you're enjoying the stimul8. Sessions are looking brutal, as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    Are you making up for the reps that you fail to complete? I don't remember off the top of my head, but I believe that you're supposed to make up for them somehow. I'll look it up.
    Either way, you're killing it and I'm glad you're enjoying the stimul8. Sessions are looking brutal, as usual.
    No, didn't know I was suppose to? So I would add an 11th set with the ones I have missed? And thanks. The energy and focus I am getting from Stimul8 is definitely working for me with GVT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    No, didn't know I was suppose to? So I would add an 11th set with the ones I have missed? And thanks. The energy and focus I am getting from Stimul8 is definitely working for me with GVT.
    I'm gonna look it up for you, as I don't remember off the top of my head. I know there are different versions of GVT so we'll see. Give me a few to do some reading.
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    Don't think you make them up. Next session you try to beat previous reps so you 10x10 then add weight.

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    Nah you don't make them up. You don't go to failure. You don't use negatives beyond the normal tempo. When you hit all sets and reps you up the weight by five percent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Nah you don't make them up. You don't go to failure. You don't use negatives beyond the normal tempo. When you hit all sets and reps you up the weight by five percent.
    Word. My bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Nah you don't make them up. You don't go to failure. You don't use negatives beyond the normal tempo. When you hit all sets and reps you up the weight by five percent.
    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    Word. My bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post

    Thanks guys
    Don't thank him. He is lost to us with his kipping and toe touches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Don't thank him. He is lost to us with his kipping and toe touches
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