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    JUst read over the first 4 pages of your log,thanks for the super detailed feedback.

    Though you've noted you have a strong tolerance to caffiene,I'd be weary of over doing CNS stimulation and the like from dosing MM and Condense at the same time.IME,two fairly strong stims at once lead to burnout/over training symptoms.

    I'd suggest staggering the dosages by a couple hours but if you feel as if you will fare alright with simultaneous dosing,so be it.






    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    MM is the bomb for sure. One of the best 1,3 products I've ever tried. I also forgot to mention I havnt had any huge crash from either product yet. Didn't expect that with Condense but thought I might with MM. Nothing yet tho

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    I feel fine with them dosed at the same time tbh. I nromally stay around 500mg caffeine pre-workout so the extra 200 hasn't bothered me yet. I will defanitley keep an eye on this tho and thank u very much for the words of caution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    I feel fine with them dosed at the same time tbh. I nromally stay around 500mg caffeine pre-workout so the extra 200 hasn't bothered me yet. I will defanitley keep an eye on this tho and thank u very much for the words of caution.
    Probably take mm preworkout and sip on condense through the workout. That way you still get the pump, it last longwood and the stim factor will be in installments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    I feel fine with them dosed at the same time tbh. I nromally stay around 500mg caffeine pre-workout so the extra 200 hasn't bothered me yet. I will defanitley keep an eye on this tho and thank u very much for the words of caution.
    yeah, and he snorts it too
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    I save the snorting for my cuts.

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    So it's been a little over a week on this Muscle Marinade and Condense stack and although I have gone over some of the things I have noticed I thought it was time to do a full review up to this point.

    Initial rating for Energy - 9/10 -- Updated rating for Energy - 9/10

    Even after a week of full doses of both products my energy levels are still well above par. I've lifted 9 of the last 11 days and between MM and Condense my energy levels remain amazing.

    Initial rating for Focus - 7/10 -- Updated rating for Focus - 8-10

    After I tweaked my dose some the jitters subsided and I was able to really concentrate during my sessions. I don't experience a focus like OG Craze but I wasn't expecting too. Overall a very good experience here so far.

    Initial rating for Strength - 9/10 -- Updated rating for Strength - 10/10

    I have hit pr's on two different exercises for weight AND reps as well as setting some pr's for total set weights. The only change has been these two products so I give all credit to the Purus Team

    Initial rating for Endurance - 9/10 -- Updated rating for Endurance 9/10

    Endurance has been up and like I said earlier getting pr's for overall sets weight is the proof.

    Initial rating for Pumps - 6/10 -- Updated rating for Pumps - 8/10

    Pumps have come on big-time the last two days. Muscles are very full and hard as he'll. Vascularity is still a bit low but it has been building up nicely too. Still a home run for me atm tho.

    Initial rating for Overall - 8/10 -- Updated rating for Overall - 9/10

    These products have gone above and beyond my expectations. The pumps are getting better. The strength is still climbing. The focus is spot on. Endurance has never been better and Energy is through the roof. And IMO the best is yet to come.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne42 View Post
    Lovin the log broha!!! Your Killin it!
    You saw my fat finger submit earlier lol. Fixed the post now tho

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    Quick update before I hit the hay. Hit chest and quads today. Great pump throughout the entire session and crazy endurance. Decided to back the weight down on legs and focus on negatives so my knee wouldnt act up on me. Working in negatives to a FST-7 set is absolute torture lol. Powered through and had some nice pains in the ole tree trunks.


    Dumbbell Incline Bench Press
    Set 1: 95.0'sx12
    Set 2: 110.0'sx11
    Set 3: 110.0'sx10
    Set 4: 110.0'sx9

    Barbell Flat Bench Press
    Set 1: 225.0x12
    Set 2: 245.0x10
    Set 3: 255.0x8
    Set 4: 275.0x6

    Machine Incline Chest Press
    Set 1: 230.0x10
    Set 2: 270.0x8
    Set 3: 275.0x8

    Machine Inner Chest Press (Crazy resistance on this thing)
    Set 1: 180.0x12
    Set 2: 180.0x10
    Set 3: 180.0x9

    Cable Cross Over
    Set 1: 100.0x12
    Set 2: 100.0x12
    Set 3: 100.0x12
    Set 4: 100.0x12
    Set 5: 120.0x10
    Set 6: 120.0x9
    Set 7: 120.0x8

    Leg Extensions
    Set 1: 190.0x10
    Set 2: 210.0x9
    Set 3: 230.0x8

    Barbell Squat
    Set 1: 260.0x10
    Set 2: 300.0x9
    Set 3: 340.0x6

    Leg Press
    Set 1: 225.0x10
    Set 2: 225.0x10
    Set 3: 225.0x10
    Set 4: 225.0x10
    Set 5: 225.0x10
    Set 6: 225.0x10
    Set 7: 225.0x10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Quick update before I hit the hay. Hit chest and quads today. Great pump throughout the entire session and crazy endurance. Decided to back the weight down on legs and focus on negatives so my knee wouldnt act up on me. Working in negatives to a FST-7 set is absolute torture lol. Powered through and had some nice pains in the ole tree trunks.

    Dumbbell Incline Bench Press
    Set 1: 95.0'sx12
    Set 2: 110.0'sx11
    Set 3: 110.0'sx10
    Set 4: 110.0'sx9

    Barbell Flat Bench Press
    Set 1: 225.0x12
    Set 2: 245.0x10
    Set 3: 255.0x8
    Set 4: 275.0x6

    Machine Incline Chest Press
    Set 1: 230.0x10
    Set 2: 270.0x8
    Set 3: 275.0x8

    Machine Inner Chest Press (Crazy resistance on this thing)
    Set 1: 180.0x12
    Set 2: 180.0x10
    Set 3: 180.0x9

    Cable Cross Over
    Set 1: 100.0x12
    Set 2: 100.0x12
    Set 3: 100.0x12
    Set 4: 100.0x12
    Set 5: 120.0x10
    Set 6: 120.0x9
    Set 7: 120.0x8

    Leg Extensions
    Set 1: 190.0x10
    Set 2: 210.0x9
    Set 3: 230.0x8

    Barbell Squat
    Set 1: 260.0x10
    Set 2: 300.0x9
    Set 3: 340.0x6

    Leg Press
    Set 1: 225.0x10
    Set 2: 225.0x10
    Set 3: 225.0x10
    Set 4: 225.0x10
    Set 5: 225.0x10
    Set 6: 225.0x10
    Set 7: 225.0x10
    Sick freakin work out. I would be in the bed for days after that, or at the doctors.
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    Lol thanks bud. I used do chest on its own day but I split hams and quads up and chest was 2nd lowest volume day so it got extra. FST7 is an awesome program. Anyone who hasn't given it a shot should.

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    Yeah I am hopping back on mine. But a lower volume version of it, just one main exercise for 5 sets then the FST-7 sets per body part. That will be a good part of it, but I may toss in a GVT type arm day every once in a while or some other rep scheme or plan as needed just for variation. However I do enjoy the pump and pace of FST-7 type lifting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Yeah I am hopping back on mine. But a lower volume version of it, just one main exercise for 5 sets then the FST-7 sets per body part. That will be a good part of it, but I may toss in a GVT type arm day every once in a while or some other rep scheme or plan as needed just for variation. However I do enjoy the pump and pace of FST-7 type lifting.
    Oh the pumps from FST7 are amazing and if you keep the rest to 1-1.5mins max on big lifts and 30 seconds on FST7 sets it keeps the heart rate very high as well. LOVE IT!

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    Well today was a strange workout. My strength was just NOT there when I started. The farther I got into my workout the stronger I got tho and ended up hitting some big weight on shrugs. Pumps were great again and energy was good throughout. Never had a day where I was weak when I started and stronger when I ended I think Colin might have been spot on tho. Maybe some over training the last week. Lifted 11 out of the last 14 days with no consecutive rest days together lifting high volume and loads too. (For me )


    Hammer Strength Shoulder Press (Felt really weak on these)
    Set 1: 200.0 x 12
    Set 2: 230.0 x 8
    Set 3: 230.0 x 7
    Set 4: 180.0 x 10

    Dumbbell Hammer Front Raise
    Set 1: 55.0's x 10
    Set 2: 60.0's x 10
    Set 3: 60.0's x 9
    Set 4: 60.0's x 8

    Barbell Up Right Row
    Set 1: 140.0 x 10
    Set 2: 145.0 x 10
    Set 3: 155.0 x 9
    Set 4: 135.0 x 11

    Dumbbell Lateral Raise
    Set 1: 25.0's x 12
    Set 2: 25.0's x 12
    Set 3: 30.0's x 10
    Set 4: 30.0's x 10
    Set 5: 30.0's x 10
    Set 6: 30.0's x 10
    Set 7: 30.0's x 9

    Dumbbell Bent Over Delt Raise
    Set 1: 40.0's x 10
    Set 2: 40.0's x 10
    Set 3: 40.0's x 10
    Set 4: 40.0's x 10

    Hammer Strength Shrug
    Set 1: 580.0 x 10
    Set 2: 630.0 x 9
    Set 3: 630.0 x 10
    Set 4: 630.0 x 8

    Reverse Machine Flyes
    Set 1: 120.0 x 12
    Set 2: 120.0 x 14
    Set 3: 120.0 x 12
    Set 4: 120.0 x 11
    Set 5: 120.0 x 10
    Set 6: 120.0 x 10
    Set 7: 120.0 x 10

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    Nice work!
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    Awesome thanks guys.... Always a good thing when some share. That will be a good read later. I just read up on carb cycling and I am struggling trying to perfect it with my work/gym schedule. All in due time. I am gearing up for my next log and think it will be tweaking time.


    Still great work up in here you volume is insane. I'd image your there for at least 1.5 hours. 45-60min is my time limit. Then off to work.
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    1.5 is about right. It goes by fast tho.

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    Well I got some questions and maybe one of you fellows could shed some light. I think I've possibly over trained the last three weeks. Been lifting harder then normal lately due to Muscle Marinade and Condense (awesome). On the down side the last three days I've been craving carbs BAD even with refeeds every five days or so. Normal carb days are between 150 and 175 carb up days around 300. Last couple sessions strength has been in the tank at the start of the day but goes up steadily towards the end of my workout. Had a headache today which I assume issue to no morning caffeine because as soon as I took my MM and Condense it went away. Didn't carb up before my workout an even tho I did a light pump arm day pumps were down. Trained 14 out of the last 17 days with no back to back rest days.

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    Wasn't sure which one I liked the most
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    Looks like the GD advertisement!!! Finally!!
    but with your Carb ups, hit it harder. Bread, pretzels, ice cream, whatever. It takes about 4-5 days to deplete glycogen so Carb up and then force more down as a midnight snatch.
    I'm reading the Carb nite solution and he talks alot about this
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    And I said snatch on Purpose .
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    I thought maybe overtraining was caussing the carb cravings due to low energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    I thought maybe overtraining was caussing the carb cravings due to low energy.
    Very possibly yes. But could just be your volume and intensity of training demands more carbs. Think about it...you are "enhanced" and therefore blur your body's natural signs of telling you when to rest/stop/etc.
    You can't necessarily up the demand without upping the supply.
    Just some thoughts. Because I can totally understand the "empty" feeling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne42 View Post
    Lookin thick and vascular brother! Hell yea
    Thanks bud. Any thoughts on my earlier posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post

    Thanks bud. Any thoughts on my earlier posts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Wasn't sure which one I liked the most
    Personally...I'd take any of those.
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    The ones about over training

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    Very well could be. Are you on a low carb?
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    Normaly around 150g a day with a refeed once a week around 300.

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    That's not to bad. I wouldn't think your overtraining. Believe it or not... Overtraining is pretty tough to do I'm finding out
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    Well if AB says I'm good ill be hitting back today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Well if AB says I'm good ill be hitting back today
    Now everyone is different as well as each body part. You just gotta listen to yourself and see where the progress has slowed or where your sore.
    When I.first started powerlifting... They worked me hard... I thought I was overtraining for sure but obviously isn't the case cuz I'm still growing haha
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    Your carb metabolism may be ramping up. Snags used to be pretty carb sensitive and this past 6 months he finds that he goes flat with anything less than 300 grams per day. Try either increasing your refeed by about 200 grams or bump up your regular days about 50grams of carbs. Either way would be a good way to go. You are killing it bro and looking major vascular in those pics. Forearm veins are like ropes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne42 View Post
    Now everyone is different as well as each body part. You just gotta listen to yourself and see where the progress has slowed or where your sore.
    When I.first started powerlifting... They worked me hard... I thought I was overtraining for sure but obviously isn't the case cuz I'm still growing haha
    I think maybe a deload week might be in order possibly. Got any suggestions Kleen?

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    Today was another crap day. Just wasnt feeling it. I think I might be burnt out.

    High Inverted Row
    Set 1: 15
    Set 2: 12
    Set 3: 10

    T Bar Row
    Set 1: 225.0 x 10
    Set 2: 235.0 x 9
    Set 3: 235.0 x 8 Drop 180.0 x 8 Drop 135 x 8


    Hammer Strength One Arm Row
    Set 1: 180.0 x 10
    Set 2: 225.0 x 10
    Set 3: 225.0 x 10 Drop 180 x 10 Drop 135 x 10 Drop 90 x 12

    Low Cable Row (3 second pause on contraction 3 second negative)
    Set 1: 100.0x15
    Set 2: 120.0x13
    Set 3: 120.0x12
    Set 4: 120.0x10

    One Arm Dumbell Row
    Set 1: 150.0's x 9
    Set 2: 150.0's x 8
    Set 3: 150.0's x 8

    Skipped FST7 set and Deadlifts. Swapped some pulldowns for some extra rows cause I could tell from the start it wasnt going to be a very good day.

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    Yeah, if you feel run down at all then take a deload week. It will definitely not hurt your progress. On top of that there are various types of deloads there are complete stops, cardio only, obviously these are when your body really needs to rest and recover, then there are more CNS type deloads where you work hard but not to failure with basically all things being machine based. The machines take a lot of the stress on the CNS out of the equation. Then there are the body weight exercise type deloads, couple sets of chins, push ups and body weight squats for reps. You could do an benefit from any of these methods. For right now I would look at machines and or some body weight calisthenics type thing 3 times a week during the deload. It really depends on what all you feel needs the time to recover. CNS only then do one of the 2 latter ones, if your entire body feels run down then just do some light cardio and stuff a few times during the week and the go back in the next week and smash it.
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    Yeah man if you are just feeling burnt out take a week or a few days minimum to allow yourself to recover. If you do the body weight or machine route push just to the point of working hard then stop. Nothing intense just enough to feel that you worked got blood into the muscle and stopped while you had plenty left in the tank.
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    Awesome thanks for the advice man. I might go with some light cardio for the next few days and scale back the stims. Any Purus Rep gonna object even tho this IS a log about Muscle Marinade and Condense?

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