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    Congrats on the engagement! Killing it every day you are going to run into aches and pains some days. Chalk the leg work up to a bad day. You have had a lot of good ones. Sweet on the 15 lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73
    Congrats on the engagement! Killing it every day you are going to run into aches and pains some days. Chalk the leg work up to a bad day. You have had a lot of good ones. Sweet on the 15 lbs.
    Thanks Kleen, I know I was just not into it that day. But anyway il be sending you a message in a few.
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    When you are getting stronger on stuff like this, you tend to really want to push extra hard and the weight feels lighter but that has to take a toll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    When you are getting stronger on stuff like this, you tend to really want to push extra hard and the weight feels lighter but that has to take a toll.
    I hear ya DW, went and played touch football on Saturday. Let just say I'm toast today lol.
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    Day 35 - 154.3

    Well guys this cycle is going great so far and I am extremely happy. We are nearing the end though, I believe 4 more days left. Went to the gym this morning, everything was pretty sore but figured I'd give it hell anyway. Went a little lighter on shoulders, bi's, and tri's. I did do some strong core work though. Did notice though even though I went lighter the reps are getting really really easy. Had a really nice shoulder pump rocking and the traps were feeling huge. I won't be posting any more pictures till the last day.

    Also I do have my next cycle just about finalized and I'm happy that I am getting prepared ahead of time so il be ready to rock and roll. Looks like its going to be about 90% finaflex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25
    Day 35 - 154.3

    Well guys this cycle is going great so far and I am extremely happy. We are nearing the end though, I believe 4 more days left. Went to the gym this morning, everything was pretty sore but figured I'd give it hell anyway. Went a little lighter on shoulders, bi's, and tri's. I did do some strong core work though. Did notice though even though I went lighter the reps are getting really really easy. Had a really nice shoulder pump rocking and the traps were feeling huge. I won't be posting any more pictures till the last day.

    Also I do have my next cycle just about finalized and I'm happy that I am getting prepared ahead of time so il be ready to rock and roll. Looks like its going to be about 90% finaflex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    Ready to see the final results and what cha gained.
    Looks like ya did a great job!
    Thanks Aaron I'm excited too. If it ended today I would still be pumped. I'm still going to go for gains during pct.
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    good job, yes this is a damn good product... run it with 550 next time and kill the fug out of it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    good job, yes this is a damn good product... run it with 550 next time and kill the fug out of it..
    Could I run 550 with my 30 day alpha and 30 day epi-v cycle il be running? Wouldn't it help with joints.
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    Yah you could .. and yes it will
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    Yah you could .. and yes it will
    Hmm looks like that cycle just got a little more finaflexed. I was excited about this cycle and still am but boy is this next one going to be something killer. Will most definitely be logged.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9FSZJu448&sns=em

    Everyone should check out that video. Truly inspirational.
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    Gym time
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25
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    Day 36 - 154.5

    Seems that my weight has leveled off which might be because of not enough cals. I kinda feel like I am still gaining but am not totally sure. I felt great in the gym this morning. Me and my buddy moved a bunch of weight. I did do standing BB curls starting at 90 degrees and going up. I did 75 for 8 I believe. I know 75 is not a ton after we all watch Mack crush like 135. I think on Friday I am going to give it another go and push for 85 at least. I am starting to do wrist curls everyday to try and strengthen my wrists a little more to help with curls and bench. Now I did to BB curls but today was a leg day which felt good for once but again still kept it lite to avoid screwing up my knees or groin.

    Well to give you all some info on my next cycle it is looking like this. Cycle will be starting in February or march.

    Day 1 - 30 - Finaflex 1-alpha
    Day 31 - 60 - Finaflex Epi-V
    Day 1 - 60 - PNI Thermadex
    Day 1 - 60 - Finaflex 550-xd

    This well all be powered by ignite 2. PCT Rev black with also be run on cycle with super cissus and taurine.
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    lineup looks good, I guess thermadex is a test booster ?

    You could add some crea-trona during PCT I think you will be glad you did... I will hit the Crea-trona hard during pcit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    lineup looks good, I guess thermadex is a test booster ?

    You could add some crea-trona during PCT I think you will be glad you did... I will hit the Crea-trona hard during pcit...
    That would be a nice kick in PCT. I always like creatine there anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    lineup looks good, I guess thermadex is a test booster ?

    You could add some crea-trona during PCT I think you will be glad you did... I will hit the Crea-trona hard during pcit...
    The thermadex is a fat burner. Howwedo could give you more info. I know I'm putting a fat burner on top of epi-v if its to much I can always take it out after alpha as it does not need to be cycled.

    As far as crea-tona is concerned I forgot add that, I have some due to the bogo on epi. I generally run creatine on cycle and pct 5g a day with my first protein shake. Can I just do the same with crea-tona? Also would the dosage be the same at 5g? Perform will also be run during cycle and during PCT to prevent any libido loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    The thermadex is a fat burner. Howwedo could give you more info. I know I'm putting a fat burner on top of epi-v if its to much I can always take it out after alpha as it does not need to be cycled.

    As far as crea-tona is concerned I forgot add that, I have some due to the bogo on epi. I generally run creatine on cycle and pct 5g a day with my first protein shake. Can I just do the same with crea-tona? Also would the dosage be the same at 5g? Perform will also be run during cycle and during PCT to prevent any libido loss.
    Yah 5 grams would be fne...

    No test booster, I would throw in some Pure Test. Libido is only one reason to recover from shutdown you want your test levels back up to maintain gains. Do not cut during PCT, you should be peaking with the Epi-v...
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    I'm the worse at posting stuff DW lol. Just like my pct for this cycle il be using DAA also so there is the test booster. The thermadex won't be run in pct so I don't plan on cutting during pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25
    I'm the worse at posting stuff DW lol. Just like my pct for this cycle il be using DAA also so there is the test booster. The thermadex won't be run in pct so I don't plan on cutting during pct.
    Also DW I was. Going to use ignite 2 as a PWO. However I see it has to be cycled. Seeing what it does should I save it and run it with pct to maintain gains seeing as I have enough going on?
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    Day 37 - 155.0


    Well guys had a pretty damn good work out this morning. Told myself not to do anything but cardio and core work. I'm happy I stuck to it. I'm planning a big bi and tri day on Friday so trying to give everything a rest but my core and legs. So like I said it was a good work out. I'm running out of perform which sucks, I'm still waiting on my NP order to ship out so I can be restocked and there is some stuff for the next cycle in there as well. So far side on this cycle, lower back pumps (solved with 8g of taurine ED split 4/4), back acne (solved with glytone back acne spray), no loss of libido or shut down but i have been on perform the whole cycle. I'd rather prevent something then fix it later. So far so good guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25
    Day 37 - 155.0

    Well guys had a pretty damn good work out this morning. Told myself not to do anything but cardio and core work. I'm happy I stuck to it. I'm planning a big bi and tri day on Friday so trying to give everything a rest but my core and legs. So like I said it was a good work out. I'm running out of perform which sucks, I'm still waiting on my NP order to ship out so I can be restocked and there is some stuff for the next cycle in there as well. So far side on this cycle, lower back pumps (solved with 8g of taurine ED split 4/4), back acne (solved with glytone back acne spray), no loss of libido or shut down but i have been on perform the whole cycle. I'd rather prevent something then fix it later. So far so good guys.
    Day 38 final day. Gym soon update after.
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    Ah all things mist end
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    Ah all things mist end
    Yes but my weight took a move last night which il update on after the gym. Also DW since your here right now. Think I should go ahead and start PCT tonight with the 2 caps of black or hold off till tomorrow night. I am very happy at this time and will post up a review after the gym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    Yes but my weight took a move last night which il update on after the gym. Also DW since your here right now. Think I should go ahead and start PCT tonight with the 2 caps of black or hold off till tomorrow night. I am very happy at this time and will post up a review after the gym.
    Your good either way really...
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    Day 38 - 157.6 (19.6lbs)

    Well guys today is my final day and tomorrow will start PCT. I will be logging my PCT right here for all the people following so you dont have to sub to another thread.

    It was a good day in the gym and I felt great. Andro did a wonderful job as you can see. I gained 19.6lbs and am going to do my best in PCT to keep as much as I can so I can lean out and tighten up in March. Thank you everyone for sticking with me and following this log. You guys keep me motivated to keep going. Pictures will be posted tonight I hope. Maybe tomorrow morning before I eat.
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    Final Review before PCT (Unsponsored)
     
    Starting weight 138, Finishing weight before PCT 157.6 (19.6)

    Strength Increase 7/10... I know you are probably saying "He gained 19.6lbs and he gave it a 7." I gave it a 7 because it was my first cycle so I did account that I may gain more then normal. I will say that this converted very nicely for me though. I know the big thing with 1-andro is conversion. If it converts well then you will make some solid gains. If it does not convert well then you may not.

    Libido 5/10... I give libido a 5 because it did not increase and it did not decrease. Remember though I was taking perform thoughout my entire cycle so I would have to say that helped it not decrease.

    Acne 4/10... So I did in fact have an issue with back acne. Again the acne only showed up on my back and no where else. However once I started using glytone on my back its slowly starting to go away. Be thing is it prevented any further development.
    Back Pumps 6/10... Il be honest the back pumped were awful. I give it a 6 because they were bad but as soon as I got on 8g of taurine and day they were no longer an issue.

    Recovery 7/10... Again I am giving this a 7 because it is my first cycle. I did recover great after my workouts and in between sets. Its like in my mind I said ok rest 90 seconds. 30 seconds later i was doing another set. I just couldnt wait around I just had to do another set.

    Final Review 8/10... In the end guys Finaflex 1-andro was great. I surely enjoyed it and am very happy that I used it as my first cycle over something else. The sides were not bad and the gains were plenty enough to offset any of the sides that I did in fact have. Plus all the sides I was able to control with supporting supplements so sides are deffinetly no problem.
    I would like to give a big shout out to all the guys that followed my log and to all the guys that I sent messages to with questions. The finaflex reps are incredible and anwsered any and all questions that I had for them. Much respect for the company and that is why my next cycle is a finaflex cycle. Thank you guys for a fantastic product.
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    19 lbs! Wow. Lol. That's a huge gain bro. I'll be curious as to how you hold that through PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl
    19 lbs! Wow. Lol. That's a huge gain bro. I'll be curious as to how you hold that through PCT.
    Thanks Rahl like I said I am new and its my first cycle so I did expect a little more then someone who has done a cycle before. I did put on some fat to but I plan on trimming up and tightening a bit in mid February or march.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25

    Thanks Rahl like I said I am new and its my first cycle so I did expect a little more then someone who has done a cycle before. I did put on some fat to but I plan on trimming up and tightening a bit in mid February or march.
    That's cool man. Just don't make the rookie mistake of cutting cals in PCT. and remember overall that you're carrying more mass than before and in order to hold it your maintenance calories are higher now. Don't under eat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl

    That's cool man. Just don't make the rookie mistake of cutting cals in PCT. and remember overall that you're carrying more mass than before and in order to hold it your maintenance calories are higher now. Don't under eat.
    Exactly, I plan on carrying on doing the same I am now and after pct. just keep slamming the food down my throat. I don't plan on dropping cals until mid march when I'm on epi-v and thermadex.
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    For what 1-andro is 19.6 is very good even for a newb.. this is not one of those harsh products that adds a bunch of water weight the gains are very dry. I would never expect anything more with this type of product. Personally for me it's the quality of the gains over the quantity.

    I think the fact that your libido did not go down warrants a higher rating. I know you were taking preform but shutdown is shutdown I can't see where a herbal product like that would make a difference either way. So shutdown was not strong and that is significant or what we would really try to assess in this situation.

    Otherwise great review and thanks ...

    Good call on keeping the cals up for a while...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    For what 1-andro is 19.6 is very good even for a newb.. this is not one of those harsh products that adds a bunch of water weight the gains are very dry. I would never expect anything more with this type of product. Personally for me it's the quality of the gains over the quantity.

    I think the fact that your libido did not go down warrants a higher rating. I know you were taking preform but shutdown is shutdown I can't see where a herbal product like that would make a difference either way. So shutdown was not strong and that is significant or what we would really try to assess in this situation.

    Otherwise great review and thanks ...

    Good call on keeping the cals up for a while...
    Thanks for the kind words DW. I know the rating should have been higher on libido. Tonight I have the final 2 caps of andro and then tomorrow il start pct with formasurge after my shower at the gym. Lets see where pct takes me and how much of this I can keep. I'm just keep the mind set that I'm still on. Which mean gains are still coming. My goal for pct max loss of 5lbs and the extreme goal would be lose none gain some.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9FSZJu448&sns=em

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    WOW Brother thanks for sharing this link! I just put it up on my Facebook I was so moved by it and that was after going to watch the extended cut of it too.

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    Starting weight 138, Finishing weight before PCT 157.6 (19.6)

    Strength Increase 7/10... I know you are probably saying "He gained 19.6lbs and he gave it a 7." I gave it a 7 because it was my first cycle so I did account that I may gain more then normal. I will say that this converted very nicely for me though. I know the big thing with 1-andro is conversion. If it converts well then you will make some solid gains. If it does not convert well then you may not.

    Libido 5/10... I give libido a 5 because it did not increase and it did not decrease. Remember though I was taking perform thoughout my entire cycle so I would have to say that helped it not decrease.

    Acne 4/10... So I did in fact have an issue with back acne. Again the acne only showed up on my back and no where else. However once I started using glytone on my back its slowly starting to go away. Be thing is it prevented any further development.
    Back Pumps 6/10... Il be honest the back pumped were awful. I give it a 6 because they were bad but as soon as I got on 8g of taurine and day they were no longer an issue.

    Recovery 7/10... Again I am giving this a 7 because it is my first cycle. I did recover great after my workouts and in between sets. Its like in my mind I said ok rest 90 seconds. 30 seconds later i was doing another set. I just couldnt wait around I just had to do another set.

    Final Review 8/10... In the end guys Finaflex 1-andro was great. I surely enjoyed it and am very happy that I used it as my first cycle over something else. The sides were not bad and the gains were plenty enough to offset any of the sides that I did in fact have. Plus all the sides I was able to control with supporting supplements so sides are deffinetly no problem.
    I would like to give a big shout out to all the guys that followed my log and to all the guys that I sent messages to with questions. The finaflex reps are incredible and anwsered any and all questions that I had for them. Much respect for the company and that is why my next cycle is a finaflex cycle. Thank you guys for a fantastic product.
    Excellent and fair review! Would you mind copying and pasting this into the actual review area here on AM as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73

    WOW Brother thanks for sharing this link! I just put it up on my Facebook I was so moved by it and that was after going to watch the extended cut of it too.

    Excellent and fair review! Would you mind copying and pasting this into the actual review area here on AM as well?
    Yeah no problem kleen
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    For what 1-andro is 19.6 is very good even for a newb.. this is not one of those harsh products that adds a bunch of water weight the gains are very dry. I would never expect anything more with this type of product. Personally for me it's the quality of the gains over the quantity.

    I think the fact that your libido did not go down warrants a higher rating. I know you were taking preform but shutdown is shutdown I can't see where a herbal product like that would make a difference either way. So shutdown was not strong and that is significant or what we would really try to assess in this situation.

    Otherwise great review and thanks ...

    Good call on keeping the cals up for a while...
    I don't think that there is anything wrong with his libido rating DW. If it did not have any effect one way or another on libido then I think a 5 is a perfect score. 1-Andro is not a androgenic product and most people have no increase or a tiny one at first then a decrease in it towards the end. Also Perform not only has PD5 inhibitors in it but A LOT of things that free up testosterone which is one of it's MOA's. So even if he was slightly shut down it could have kept his libido from dropping due to increasing the free levels of testosterone even when the serum levels were lower than in the beginning. Perform more than likely was a factor in him not losing much of his libido.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73

    I don't think that there is anything wrong with his libido rating DW. If it did not have any effect one way or another on libido then I think a 5 is a perfect score. 1-Andro is not a androgenic product and most people have no increase or a tiny one at first then a decrease in it towards the end. Also Perform not only has PD5 inhibitors in it but A LOT of things that free up testosterone which is one of it's MOA's. So even if he was slightly shut down it could have kept his libido from dropping due to increasing the free levels of testosterone even when the serum levels were lower than in the beginning. Perform more than likely was a factor in him not losing much of his libido.
    Correct I kinda did libido as 1 if it was lost and shut down occurred, 5 being no change, 10 being massive increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73

    I don't think that there is anything wrong with his libido rating DW. If it did not have any effect one way or another on libido then I think a 5 is a perfect score. 1-Andro is not a androgenic product and most people have no increase or a tiny one at first then a decrease in it towards the end. Also Perform not only has PD5 inhibitors in it but A LOT of things that free up testosterone which is one of it's MOA's. So even if he was slightly shut down it could have kept his libido from dropping due to increasing the free levels of testosterone even when the serum levels were lower than in the beginning. Perform more than likely was a factor in him not losing much of his libido.
    I have to agree with Kleen on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    Correct I kinda did libido as 1 if it was lost and shut down occurred, 5 being no change, 10 being massive increase.
    Yah really just perspective...
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    Wholly fug that vid was inspirational going up on my facebook as well...
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