Finaflex 1-andro and PNI prodigy log

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Rahl

    That's cool man. Just don't make the rookie mistake of cutting cals in PCT. and remember overall that you're carrying more mass than before and in order to hold it your maintenance calories are higher now. Don't under eat.
    Exactly, I plan on carrying on doing the same I am now and after pct. just keep slamming the food down my throat. I don't plan on dropping cals until mid march when I'm on epi-v and thermadex.
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  2. For what 1-andro is 19.6 is very good even for a newb.. this is not one of those harsh products that adds a bunch of water weight the gains are very dry. I would never expect anything more with this type of product. Personally for me it's the quality of the gains over the quantity.

    I think the fact that your libido did not go down warrants a higher rating. I know you were taking preform but shutdown is shutdown I can't see where a herbal product like that would make a difference either way. So shutdown was not strong and that is significant or what we would really try to assess in this situation.

    Otherwise great review and thanks ...

    Good call on keeping the cals up for a while...
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    For what 1-andro is 19.6 is very good even for a newb.. this is not one of those harsh products that adds a bunch of water weight the gains are very dry. I would never expect anything more with this type of product. Personally for me it's the quality of the gains over the quantity.

    I think the fact that your libido did not go down warrants a higher rating. I know you were taking preform but shutdown is shutdown I can't see where a herbal product like that would make a difference either way. So shutdown was not strong and that is significant or what we would really try to assess in this situation.

    Otherwise great review and thanks ...

    Good call on keeping the cals up for a while...
    Thanks for the kind words DW. I know the rating should have been higher on libido. Tonight I have the final 2 caps of andro and then tomorrow il start pct with formasurge after my shower at the gym. Lets see where pct takes me and how much of this I can keep. I'm just keep the mind set that I'm still on. Which mean gains are still coming. My goal for pct max loss of 5lbs and the extreme goal would be lose none gain some.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9FSZJu448&sns=em

    Everyone should check out that video. Truly inspirational.
    WOW Brother thanks for sharing this link! I just put it up on my Facebook I was so moved by it and that was after going to watch the extended cut of it too.

    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    Final Review before PCT (Unsponsored)
     
    Starting weight 138, Finishing weight before PCT 157.6 (19.6)

    Strength Increase 7/10... I know you are probably saying "He gained 19.6lbs and he gave it a 7." I gave it a 7 because it was my first cycle so I did account that I may gain more then normal. I will say that this converted very nicely for me though. I know the big thing with 1-andro is conversion. If it converts well then you will make some solid gains. If it does not convert well then you may not.

    Libido 5/10... I give libido a 5 because it did not increase and it did not decrease. Remember though I was taking perform thoughout my entire cycle so I would have to say that helped it not decrease.

    Acne 4/10... So I did in fact have an issue with back acne. Again the acne only showed up on my back and no where else. However once I started using glytone on my back its slowly starting to go away. Be thing is it prevented any further development.
    Back Pumps 6/10... Il be honest the back pumped were awful. I give it a 6 because they were bad but as soon as I got on 8g of taurine and day they were no longer an issue.

    Recovery 7/10... Again I am giving this a 7 because it is my first cycle. I did recover great after my workouts and in between sets. Its like in my mind I said ok rest 90 seconds. 30 seconds later i was doing another set. I just couldnt wait around I just had to do another set.

    Final Review 8/10... In the end guys Finaflex 1-andro was great. I surely enjoyed it and am very happy that I used it as my first cycle over something else. The sides were not bad and the gains were plenty enough to offset any of the sides that I did in fact have. Plus all the sides I was able to control with supporting supplements so sides are deffinetly no problem.
    I would like to give a big shout out to all the guys that followed my log and to all the guys that I sent messages to with questions. The finaflex reps are incredible and anwsered any and all questions that I had for them. Much respect for the company and that is why my next cycle is a finaflex cycle. Thank you guys for a fantastic product.
    Excellent and fair review! Would you mind copying and pasting this into the actual review area here on AM as well?
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73

    WOW Brother thanks for sharing this link! I just put it up on my Facebook I was so moved by it and that was after going to watch the extended cut of it too.

    Excellent and fair review! Would you mind copying and pasting this into the actual review area here on AM as well?
    Yeah no problem kleen
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    For what 1-andro is 19.6 is very good even for a newb.. this is not one of those harsh products that adds a bunch of water weight the gains are very dry. I would never expect anything more with this type of product. Personally for me it's the quality of the gains over the quantity.

    I think the fact that your libido did not go down warrants a higher rating. I know you were taking preform but shutdown is shutdown I can't see where a herbal product like that would make a difference either way. So shutdown was not strong and that is significant or what we would really try to assess in this situation.

    Otherwise great review and thanks ...

    Good call on keeping the cals up for a while...
    I don't think that there is anything wrong with his libido rating DW. If it did not have any effect one way or another on libido then I think a 5 is a perfect score. 1-Andro is not a androgenic product and most people have no increase or a tiny one at first then a decrease in it towards the end. Also Perform not only has PD5 inhibitors in it but A LOT of things that free up testosterone which is one of it's MOA's. So even if he was slightly shut down it could have kept his libido from dropping due to increasing the free levels of testosterone even when the serum levels were lower than in the beginning. Perform more than likely was a factor in him not losing much of his libido.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73

    I don't think that there is anything wrong with his libido rating DW. If it did not have any effect one way or another on libido then I think a 5 is a perfect score. 1-Andro is not a androgenic product and most people have no increase or a tiny one at first then a decrease in it towards the end. Also Perform not only has PD5 inhibitors in it but A LOT of things that free up testosterone which is one of it's MOA's. So even if he was slightly shut down it could have kept his libido from dropping due to increasing the free levels of testosterone even when the serum levels were lower than in the beginning. Perform more than likely was a factor in him not losing much of his libido.
    Correct I kinda did libido as 1 if it was lost and shut down occurred, 5 being no change, 10 being massive increase.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73

    I don't think that there is anything wrong with his libido rating DW. If it did not have any effect one way or another on libido then I think a 5 is a perfect score. 1-Andro is not a androgenic product and most people have no increase or a tiny one at first then a decrease in it towards the end. Also Perform not only has PD5 inhibitors in it but A LOT of things that free up testosterone which is one of it's MOA's. So even if he was slightly shut down it could have kept his libido from dropping due to increasing the free levels of testosterone even when the serum levels were lower than in the beginning. Perform more than likely was a factor in him not losing much of his libido.
    I have to agree with Kleen on this one.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    Correct I kinda did libido as 1 if it was lost and shut down occurred, 5 being no change, 10 being massive increase.
    Yah really just perspective...

  10. Wholly fug that vid was inspirational going up on my facebook as well...
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    Wholly fug that vid was inspirational going up on my facebook as well...
    You got that right, it's crazy.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    You got that right, it's crazy.
    It's wonderful has to be shared...

  13. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

    It's wonderful has to be shared...
    I'm glad you guys are sharing it.

    Also I am having one problem now and I sent a message to DD about it. I have warmed my formasurge in warm to hot water and shook the heck out of it to get it to mix and it still come out clearish with some white chunks. Maybe it is suppose to be kinda thin and kinda clear but the white chunks I have to get out. I'm not sure what color it's suppose to be.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25

    I'm glad you guys are sharing it.

    Also I am having one problem now and I sent a message to DD about it. I have warmed my formasurge in warm to hot water and shook the heck out of it to get it to mix and it still come out clearish with some white chunks. Maybe it is suppose to be kinda thin and kinda clear but the white chunks I have to get out. I'm not sure what color it's suppose to be.
    Never mind got it all sorted out.
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  15. Form will do that heat a shake

  16. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    Form will do that heat a shake
    PCT Day 1 - 157.4

    Had a crazy workout today. Really pushed it hard for the first day of PCT. I wanted to see if I was really gaining some muscle.

    Started out and hit 85 for 5 on standing BB curl going from 90 degrees and up. After that my buddy and I rocked out some warm up sets on flat bench. Then I went ahead and smashed a PR at 165x3. Felt like I could have maybe got 2 more but did not want to push it. All and all it was a fantastic work out. Applied to 2 pumps of formasurge to my forearms and then rubbed it into my abs. It's dries pretty quick. I think the bottle says and hour but I doubt that very much. Il apply 2 more pumps tonight along with my 2 caps of PCT black and 3g of DAA.
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  17. The first week of PCT is usually pretty good, there will be some residual from the cycle so get your momentum going for week 2 ....

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    The first week of PCT is usually pretty good, there will be some residual from the cycle so get your momentum going for week 2 ....
    That's game plan, keep rolling. Trying to kill the gym the next 4 weeks, lets see how much weight I keep. I know the formasurge is going to pull out some water weight and tighten up a bit so I know il lose some there, just need to replace it with muscle.
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  19. You bout to rock them gains!
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Mack411
    You bout to rock them gains!
    They to catch up to you lol. Need to eat extra today, might have burned off some serious calories last night. Have I said that my libido I not shot. And I'm deff. Not shut down. Ran out of perform last night though. 2 bottles will be here tomorrow
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  21. PCT Day 4 - 157.8

    well up .2 pounds since the end of cycle. I'm pretty tight on money the next 2 weeks so I am really hoping to keep the cal intake up but I can only do what my pocket allows. Had a damn good work out this morning. Hit legs and core. I had an idea to try box squats and it was a great idea. Took a ton of stress off my knees which made me happy. Granted I still took it easy at 140. I have to do it on a smith machine which I hate doing squats on a smith. I'm not counting the bar as weight. I think il start hitting legs alittle harder. Nothing to really update on the front of pct. I mean no sides or anything. Acne is almost gone and I have stopped the use of glytone. I couldn't have been happier with that product. So much better then trying to jam a crap ton of B5 down your throat. Going to do a 10 minute warm up cardio tomorrow morning but that's pretty much all the cardio for this week. I'm going to put an end to cardio in pct so I'm not losing gains but burning a **** ton of cals. Vascularity is not up it honestly did not really change on cycle either which I found weird. Well boys lets see where this goes.
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  22. If box squats is a relief for the knees then you might be going too far forward on your regular squats. The purpose of box squats is to prevent you from doing that. You want to mimic the motion on your real squats.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    If box squats is a relief for the knees then you might be going too far forward on your regular squats. The purpose of box squats is to prevent you from doing that. You want to mimic the motion on your real squats.
    I also had a feeling that I might just be going to deep. Again my knees have always bothered me since I was 14 something to do with growing. I also hit the back stretch wall in my race car head on at about 60. Might not seem to fast but concrete does not move. Lets just say I hit my knee pretty hard off of something. They found nothing wrong with it between X-rays and an MRI so it is what it is.
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  24. That's awesome,I hope to keep gaining thru my pct!diet and calories are just as if not more important in pct as on cycle IMO.i love box sweats,they help get regular squats better quicker than anything!
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Mack411
    That's awesome,I hope to keep gaining thru my pct!diet and calories are just as if not more important in pct as on cycle IMO.i love box sweats,they help get regular squats better quicker than anything!
    I'm just happy to have a good leg day for once. Leg days have just been pissing me off. But whatever we will se where my pct goes.
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  26. Don't try to keep the same volume you had during your pct, stick with lower volume but high intensity. That is the best way to keep the muscle mass. Still go heavy so the body knows it needs to keep that muscle just do less sets per exercises or less exercises. Your recovery is not going to allow you to go full tilt with both like when on.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    I'm just happy to have a good leg day for once. Leg days have just been pissing me off. But whatever we will se where my pct goes.
    I'm glad ya did too.i had a terrible leg day today!
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73
    Don't try to keep the same volume you had during your pct, stick with lower volume but high intensity. That is the best way to keep the muscle mass. Still go heavy so the body knows it needs to keep that muscle just do less sets per exercises or less exercises. Your recovery is not going to allow you to go full tilt with both like when on.
    Nice info Kleen, il knock it down to like 3 sets instead of 6. Just get t the heavier weight faster.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by Mack411

    I'm glad ya did too.i had a terrible leg day today!
    I had a bunch of those. Just rebound and kill something else.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348

  30. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Don't try to keep the same volume you had during your pct, stick with lower volume but high intensity. That is the best way to keep the muscle mass. Still go heavy so the body knows it needs to keep that muscle just do less sets per exercises or less exercises. Your recovery is not going to allow you to go full tilt with both like when on.
    Yah that's a good idea...
  

  
 

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