Rated PH-17.

**superbeast668** · 10-04-2012 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by AaronJP1

http://www.askmen.com/sports/foodcou...t-fasting.html

Here is a good article on IF.

What is your standard diet like?

I don't drink milk (I did sometimes in the past) & I cut cheese out.

6-7 meals a day right now 2400cals 325pro 200 carbs 30 fats. One cheat day a week.

**AZMIDLYF** · 10-04-2012 05:04 PM

What about just grinding up some oats and mixing it with a casein shake post workout. That will feed you all night.

**AaronJP1** · 10-04-2012 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by superbeast668

6-7 meals a day right now 2400cals 325pro 200 carbs 30 fats. One cheat day a week.

Yeah cals in vs. cals out. IF helps me control my cals better or so it seems so far.

**AaronJP1** · 10-04-2012 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF

What about just grinding up some oats and mixing it with a casein shake post workout. That will feed you all night.

That's a great idea, although I'm usually hungry & I'm trying to avoid dairy.

**Piston Honda** · 10-04-2012 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by AaronJP1

I may try that. I'm still playing around with it for sure. Another thing is I'm eliminating dairy.

I figure my window may actually extend an hour or 2 like you said.

I was gonna recommend Greek yogurt, granola, blueberries, peanut butter, protein powder, but you're eliminating dairy. That's my "dessert," especially late at night.

**Dragon93** · 10-04-2012 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Piston Honda

I was gonna recommend Greek yogurt, granola, blueberries, peanut butter, protein powder, but you're eliminating dairy. That's my "dessert," especially late at night.

That sounds good. I will have to go shopping.

**AaronJP1** · 10-04-2012 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Piston Honda

I was gonna recommend Greek yogurt, granola, blueberries, peanut butter, protein powder, but you're eliminating dairy. That's my "dessert," especially late at night.

Before I was doing a banana with p butter, raisins, & granola with a shake. My IF window falls during my work hours though. I may just go traditional, but I wanted to give IF a shot.

**JoHNnyNuTZ** · 10-04-2012 06:15 PM

YO Aaron. Hows this stuff treating you??? Im pretty sure this product is the birth chilld of Taurus' stuff heading over to LG. If i remember correctly, pumps will be awesome and your muscles should feel full after about a week a week and a half. AND...I would take a dose(2ml) about 30-45 minutes before workout. Just my .02!!

**AaronJP1** · 10-04-2012 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ

YO Aaron. Hows this stuff treating you??? Im pretty sure this product is the birth chilld of Taurus' stuff heading over to LG. If i remember correctly, pumps will be awesome and your muscles should feel full after about a week a week and a half. AND...I would take a dose(2ml) about 30-45 minutes before workout. Just my .02!!

Yeah I guess LG made PH-19 (for mass) & this PH-17 (cutter). Which Taurus product would you compare it too?

I'd love to up the dose, I'm in talks with LG about getting a few more bottles on the way but only time will tell.

I'm only on Day 3 & I've noticed head aches more often other than that not too much as of yet.

**MrMarc** · 10-04-2012 06:37 PM

Subbed... Finally found it....

**stubbs481** · 10-04-2012 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by LizKing531

Any way to shift the window around that would work?

I aim for 8hr window but realistically it draws out more often closer to 9

I lift early am (5:30) then I start eating at 10-11 then end after dinner.

So just a quik question after u wrk r u taking in any protein? Or not until ur eating window

**xR1pp3Rx** · 10-04-2012 06:42 PM

check pms.

**JoHNnyNuTZ** · 10-04-2012 06:53 PM

Hmmm...well, I think( I dont have my supp fact chart in front of me) That they may be like M1P and 5AoHP...Dont quote me but im pretty sure

**jev871** · 10-04-2012 07:00 PM

I have been eyeing this for a while..I will be following along...

**AaronJP1** · 10-04-2012 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by jev871

I have been eyeing this for a while..I will be following along...

Thx for watching.

**AaronJP1** · 10-04-2012 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ

Hmmm...well, I think( I dont have my supp fact chart in front of me) That they may be like M1P and 5AoHP...Dont quote me but im pretty sure

You would suggest bumping this to 6-8ml as we spoke about correct?

**Dewey99** · 10-04-2012 08:34 PM

Super late to the party, but I'm in!

**supermanjow** · 10-04-2012 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by AaronJP1

Thx for watching.

**AaronJP1** · 10-05-2012 09:28 AM

Day 4:

Product Updates:
So got some interesting updates thus far. I am bumping up the dosage to 3ml 4 times a day, basically doubling up the dosage. I spoke with a couple people & this was recommended. One thing to point out is that headaches have been (or one constant headache) seems to be with me quite often through out the day. Could be a slight rise in BP so I may add in a support sup. Other than that all is well.

Diet:
I have not been meeting my protein & cal requirements to my liking doing IF the last day or so. I'm back to getting my macros in through out the day. I'm sure IF works great, but with my up & down schedule & making it to the gym at different times I can't stick to the window. Also I am bumping cals up on lifting days, just a a bit.

Lifting:
Doing a 12 hour shift today. I'll see if I can make it in after work tonight, if not I'll update tomorrow.

**Piston Honda** · 10-05-2012 09:37 AM

Did you preload any cycle support products? Running anything during?

Rated PH-17.

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