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    mkretz on the comback trail with HGHpro!


    alright guys first of all id like to say thanks so much to AI sports for hookin me up and allowing me to log this product. and also throwing in a sick T shirt and some nice samples.

    got a long story behind me but gonna try to sum it up......was playing college football when I got real sick and lost about 60 lbs and ended up in teh hospital. Been fighting on and off for a while now but have been cleared to lift again after a few months off and I am more motivated than eer to get back to where I used to be...(bout 170 5% bf) right now im sittin at only aout 140-145 still very low bf but i assure you I am as dedicated as it gets and work my ass off, and you will see this in my log. So I plan to make some nice gains with hgh up's help.

    I really like the recovery abilities that hgh up will help me with and I will be logging its effects on my sleep as well as my recovery.

    I woudl love to hear ANY feedback that anyone has throughout the log whether it be good bad or just ideas to throw into my owrkout or nutrition.

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    to start off my nutritiona s of right now is with lean gains. I know it seems wierd becasue I am looking to bulk up but my job (trainer and fitness class instructor) requires me to be up at 5 and teaching classes 35 min away at 6 and then going to school its jsut more conveinient to fast and then eat a big meal. I tend to workout around 1130-12 - 130-2 (including warm up) cals are at 3100 right now, they were at 3000 but didnt gain so i upped it 100. I eat about 55% cals after I workout then the emainder throughout the day usually in 2 meals till about 930 then fast again. I was wondering how often otehrs weight themselves but im tryin to hold off to once a weeek although its hard lol.

    Last week I jut freelanced in teh gym with no real "program" but this week I plan to start writing downa ll my workouts and weights like i used to and will post them on here.
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    yest. was my first dosing of the hgh up....i usually have trouble sleeping but didnt have too much difficulty once i fell asleep ( i tend to think too much when I lay in bed) I had run 5 miles that day (jsut wanna see if i can do it cuz im running the turkey trot on thanksgiving, i really dont like running though s o i try to avoid it lol) my legs were not sore at all today, so that is my initial notice of recovery, dunno if its the hgh up or just the fact that the run wasnt too txing on my body like thouhgt it would be.

    Today however will test hghups abilities....LEG DAY (going off memory)

    Explosive squats - 10 sets of 3 - 135 short rest intervals
    - Squats
    185X8
    185X8
    185X8
    115X20 (no pauses)
    125X20 (no pauses) - these were pretty rough

    Hack Squats
    90X10
    110X10
    140X4 RP X 3 RP X 3
    90X 13

    Glute bridge
    185X10
    185X10
    185X10 - these really killed my hams actually kept constant tension on the muscles instead of letting the weight hit the ground between reps

    Lunges
    30X 15 (each leg)
    50X 15
    60 X 15
    60 X 15

    Romanian DL DB
    80X10
    80X8
    80X10
    50X15

    seated leg curl
    100*15
    115X10
    115X10

    leg ext
    115X15
    115X12
    115X12 drop to 70 X 10 - good squeezes, burned like hell

    lying leg curl - hams were fried!

    50X12
    50X12


    like i said....hghups recovery ablity will be put to the test tonight, with that said, popped the pills about 25 min ago, feeling sleepy goodnight!
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    anyone ever dose hghup differently than jsut 4 caps before bed? like pre w.o? thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    anyone ever dose hghup differently than jsut 4 caps before bed? like pre w.o? thanks
    I've read a lot of people take 5 to make it effective for them. A lot of them split it up across 2 different times.
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    do you mean HGHpro? HGHup is made by AppNut, not AI
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    and if it is HGHup, I like to take all 5 caps at bedtime for best sleep benefits. I look at it this way...your body grows when you are sleeping. why not have your test and GH at its highest while your sleeping
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    wow im an idiot it is hgh pro im so sorry, wow, i was def out of it yest, sorry is there a way to change the name of the thread?
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    Hell yeah man awesome workout and subbin yo!
    I hope everybody thinks i'm crazy, because you cannot be a sane person and go through the type of pain i am willing to put myself through to be where i want to be, Once I completely win the war between my mind and body, my reign will begin. ~Me
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    LOL its all good. was just making sure. and no, u cant change the title of the thread but u can start a new one if you wanted to and delete this one. it doesnt really matter
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    gonna just keep this one.....for everyone out tehre, i meant hgh pro which i just popped about 30 min ago...feelin sleepy but im behind on meals so im eating now, hopefullyy it had time to absorb and can still do its job....killed chest today, I will post the workout tomorrow and let ya know how the legs are feeling
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    gonna just keep this one.....for everyone out tehre, i meant hgh pro which i just popped about 30 min ago...feelin sleepy but im behind on meals so im eating now, hopefullyy it had time to absorb and can still do its job....killed chest today, I will post the workout tomorrow and let ya know how the legs are feeling
    Bro you should follow my log. We are similar sizes and are doing almost the same stuff. Both doing HGHPro. I'm doing Lean Gains with it for now. I think I've seen you pop your head in the thread a few times. Let me know if you have any questions bro.

    Here is my log: Starting weight 140lbs. HGH-Pro time!


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    Im def. in bro...lets kill it haha

    Quote Originally Posted by mxer657 View Post
    Bro you should follow my log. We are similar sizes and are doing almost the same stuff. Both doing HGHPro. I'm doing Lean Gains with it for now. I think I've seen you pop your head in the thread a few times. Let me know if you have any questions bro.

    Here is my log: Starting weight 140lbs. HGH-Pro time!


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    Alright heres yesterdays workout - 11/6 - Chest/Tris

    Barbell Incline -
    115 x 15
    135x 7
    135 x 6
    135 x 6 + 3 forced reps......felt great to have a spotter and to get some good forced reps! been a while

    DB flat bench
    50x15
    55x12
    60x6
    60x7 + 3 forced
    then did a set with the 70s jsut cuz my training partner wanted to go real heavy so i said sure y not lol
    70x4 + 2

    Incline Hammer Strength
    90x15
    100x12
    90 x (Yates set) - = 10 reps, rest 10s, 10 reps, rest 10s, 4 10 sec negatives, rest 10s, 4 10 sec negatives.......WOW ! literally felt like my chest was torn after this.

    Decline DB 55x10
    55x10
    60x7+3 forced

    BW Dips
    x20
    x13
    x15

    FST-7 cable flys - (7 sets 12-15 30 sec rest) s queezed and strentched btetween sets for maximum pump

    Only did one Tri exercise cuz we were pressed for time (went to the bills game) :-( and had done alot for chest. I live in buffalo btw haha

    E-Z Bar overhead ext.
    45x15
    50x12
    50x15
    60x6+3

    ss w/ one arm band ext. x 15

    Legs are sore but its more of an achy sore rather than an omg i cant walk sore.... I look at this as good recovery because normally this comes after the painful sore but we will see in the next couple days cuz sometimes it dont hit me right away. My chest is not too sore today but tomorrow will be the real test, but so far it seems like the recovery is goin pretty good for how much im doing.
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    what is your dry weight and bf% at right now?

    We should trade measurements. I'll send you mine later today. It'll be cool to see what you do for your lifts


    How are you liking HGHPro so far? Any noticeable sleep differences? Personally, I feel like my growth rate has gone up on it. Repair times are quicker and the repaired muscle seems to be, not sure how to say this quickly, but larger than normal. I've seen some solid growth
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    11/7/11 - Back/ Bis

    BW Pull up - unfortunately this shows my weakness since im barely over 140lbs and can't do many of these....even though i dont like doing them ( cuz im bad at them) I will be focusing on these because i know how important they are.

    x7
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    x5
    x4

    T - Bar Row (weights are amt. of weight on the end of the bar)
    180x 15
    205x 12
    225x 10 (bad form, I was heaving it not gonna lie, but sometimes u jsut wanna move weight)
    225X10
    180x 15 Drop 135X12
    115X12 perfect form with squeeze then repped it out to 25 reps

    Lat pull over machine (pre exhaust for bent over row)
    90x15
    120x10
    120x10 drop 90x15

    Bent over row - went heavy and kinda threw teh weight but tried to control the negative to still get some decent work in then light with better form
    185X15 8 decent reps
    225X10 bad form lol
    235 x 4 rrest pause X 3 RP X 3 these sets the bar was coming right up my legs to below my belly button
    135X15
    135X12 + about 10 with "bad" form - these two sets were pullled up to above belly button

    Higher grip close grip cable row - the gym at my school has a weird set up where its liek a normal able row put u put ur feet up higher and the cable is higher so u lean back and pull a little more down to ur body ratehr than right into ur belly....kinda cool

    120X12
    135x12
    165x10 got sloppy after 6
    105X10 perfect form with squeeze

    Hammer strength rev. grip unilateral low row
    55(per side)x15
    80x12
    90x10 bad form
    45x15 good squeeze both sides

    My left side seemed to be dominating all of these exercises so i decided to do a couple unilateral moves this last one and also.....

    One arm lat pull down
    30x10
    30x12
    30x12

    E-Z bar cable curls - rev. dropset
    30,40,50 each 15 reps - 2 sets close grip, 2 sets wide grip.....rough haha

    incline curl

    15x15 drop 10x13
    last set was the same set up but i was in the zone and jsut kept going, dunno how many reps but more than teh first set and damn did that burn!!!!
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    btw the bills game was a "white out" so i made sure to rep my awsoem AI sports T tehy sent me, thanks again guys!
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    also im grubbin down on my pwo/fast breaking meal as i write this....1700 cals 170 protein 170 carb 38 fat 40/40/20 macro breakdown
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    wow im an idiot it is hgh pro im so sorry, wow, i was def out of it yest, sorry is there a way to change the name of the thread?
    PM a Mod and maybe they can fix it for you.

    These two supps get confused ALL the time

    HGHpro is also supposed to be taken all at once, before bed. You're also not supposed to ingest any carbs at least two hours before taking the HGHpro. I actually only use three caps and still get great sleep this way. I've talked to others that do the same. You'll have to play with the dosing and see what works the best for you, though.
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    Im about 140, dunno bf, but its low..... I cant say i eally notce anything significant after only 3 days, but i havent been crazy sore which is good cuz I am going pretty hard in the gym.
    Quote Originally Posted by mxer657 View Post
    what is your dry weight and bf% at right now?

    We should trade measurements. I'll send you mine later today. It'll be cool to see what you do for your lifts


    How are you liking HGHPro so far? Any noticeable sleep differences? Personally, I feel like my growth rate has gone up on it. Repair times are quicker and the repaired muscle seems to be, not sure how to say this quickly, but larger than normal. I've seen some solid growth
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    Well with the way my meals tend to go during the week i gotta throw them together in a small window towards the night so i usually have a meal with around 30 g carbs or so, some from veggies aroudn 7-73- then pop the hghpro round 845 ish then eat another meal that will have veggies but thats it, otherwise is protein and fat around wel...right now haha 915-930ish.... uu thinkt hat this will mess up my gains? any suggestions?
    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    PM a Mod and maybe they can fix it for you.

    These two supps get confused ALL the time

    HGHpro is also supposed to be taken all at once, before bed. You're also not supposed to ingest any carbs at least two hours before taking the HGHpro. I actually only use three caps and still get great sleep this way. I've talked to others that do the same. You'll have to play with the dosing and see what works the best for you, though.
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    I'm just taking it an hour after my last meal bro. I don't really wait to go to bed unless it's convenient
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    Since my weight is a lil low compared to what teh product was probably intended i am going to try and do jsut 3 caps fo a a couple days and see how i feel.....

    with that said, last night I took the hgh pro with some ZMA (which i had been forgetting to do) and slept great, I woke up to pee a few tiems like always but the sleep really was excellent, normally i take a lil nyquil before i go to sleep and i didnt miss it at all last night, felt great
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    11/8 Shoulders/traps/calves

    Cleans - 115x5
    115x5
    135x3
    135x3 - rested alil between reps for this one :-( made sure to set the bar down between each rep in order to be as explosive as possible though for each set

    Barbell OH Press
    75x12
    80x10
    80x8+2 with legs
    85x5+4 Drop 65x5+5

    DB Shoulder Press
    50x5 :-(
    45x10
    45x8
    45x8
    35x13

    DB Lateral raises
    15x15
    20x12+3
    20x11+4
    20x10+5
    superset
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    105x10
    110x8
    115x4 DS 85x11

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    70x15
    80x12+2
    90x10+2
    100x8+2 DS 70X8+4

    Cable unilateral front raise
    20x12+3
    20x8+3
    20x10+3 neg. DS 10lb DB X12 +3

    Rope face pulls
    100x15
    110x13
    120x10
    120x10 DS 90X12

    One arm smith shrugs
    95x15
    115x12
    115x12
    125x10+3

    Standing Calf raises smith machine
    175x25 + 20 burn reps
    185x 17 + 20 burn reps
    185X19 + 20 burn reps
    205 X 12 DS 155 X 12
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    What do the pluses indicate in your sets? Do you drop weight and squeeze out a few more reps?

    Oh, and I PMd a mod and asked him to correct your title
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    What do the pluses indicate in your sets? Do you drop weight and squeeze out a few more reps?

    Oh, and I PMd a mod and asked him to correct your title
    the uulse reps on my calf raises are just more like bouncing, less ROM not a real squeeze either just burning out the muscle......

    thanks alot i noticed the new title and like it alot better haha sorry again about that!
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    No worries.

    I was just wondering about the pluses. I actually keep track of my reps and use the plus sign as a denotation in the same manner you use it.
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    oo usaid pluses i thought u said pulses....the pluses are actuallly like extra reps that werent with great form type of thing ya knwo when ur swining the weight or something like that to get some extra reps in on the calf raises i do pulses after i cant do any more strict reps to really burn it out
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    just a quick question on your math. You state you got "sick" and lost 60 lbs. Then state you are about 140 right now(though your avatar says 150), and then state you want to get back to where you were at 170. So when were you 200 plus? Were you a fat 200?
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    yea ive been through a couple different stages.....the most i ever weighed was suring high school football at about 174 id say about 8% bf....then when i graduated and was gonna play college football i was about 165 5% bf, then i got sick, was in teh hospital, dropped down to about 110 ....slowly got back up to about 150 (in my avatar) then was taken off of some meds and lost a little and went back down to about 135, got back up to around 140 and i am now currently sitting at 141.2 as of this morning which is up about 2 lbs as of a weekand a half ago sooo going in the right direction
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    11/9 - was supposed to be an arm day but my bis were killin me from back day..... so me and a buddy did chest/tris cuz they were both feelin good. Was a little worried cuz i did shoulders yest. but felt pretty good. My back is pretty sore today and also my traps, im guessing mostly from the back workout 2 days ago, went pretty heavy.....feels good though

    Barbell bench
    135x12
    140x11
    150x7
    175x1+3 forced
    175x1+2 forced
    burn set - 115x15+3

    Rev. Grip Bench
    95 x 12
    105 x 8
    105 x 8
    85 x 15

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    10x11
    25x3 Rest pause x 2 RPx2

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    115x12
    115x11
    125x8+2 forced
    125x5+2 forced

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    55x15
    65x10
    65x10+1 forced
    75x6+2 forced DS 55x9+3 forced

    then we did a tricep superset for 4 sets which was jsut rope pushdowns supersetted with one arm cable pushdowns. Don't remember the weights, jsut goin for a pump, sets were back to back no rest.

    -I felt ok today but for some reason i jsut feel liek my weights werent where tehy should be, i mean i know im weaker from taking a break but I dunno felt liek i shoudlve been a littel stronger Energy was def. up in the beginning but I felt liek i was in the gym forever today, I did have to try to shut my buddy up alilttle more than usual haha.

    the sleep last night was very good on only 3 caps of hgh pro as well as some ZMA, I woudl say i didnt fall asleep as quick or feel extrmemly sleepy but my sleep once i was asleep was very good and i woke up with more energy than usual today as well. Leg day tomorrow!!!! Usually my legs are still sore form the previous leg workout at least al ittle but not at all even today so my recovery is def. up, can't wait to see how the worout goes tomrorow!
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    Nice job. I'm on 3 a day. Actually had a similar workout experience today
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    dosed 3 pills again last ngiht along with ZMA and once agian i didnt get the omg im so sleepy feeling or anythign liek that but i slept great, but for some reason this morning i jsut didnt wanna get out of bed, maybe my body jsut needs more rest, im really only sleepin about 7 hours a night if im lucky. Tooday was a killer leg day and will probably only do some abs tomorrow with saturday being a complete off day. The plan is to do about 2800 cals tomorrow with lower carbs since its only abs and maybe calves and about 2400-2500 on saturday with only carbs coming from veggies
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    Have you tried four caps yet? A regular dose is actually four capsules.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
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    yea i did 4 caps the first two nights....only difference i noticed was got more tired.....actual aleep has been the same with three...i jsut figured that since i am aliltle smaller maybe i could get away with only using 3 at a time to get the bottle to last longer.....no?
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    That's not uncommon. I've had a few guys tell me that three works just as well as four.
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    11/10 LEGS!!!!

    epic workout for sure...sooo focused.....btw i havent mentioned it but ive been upsing APPNUT's LIT UP which i am absolutely loving! the taste is amazing (peach tea_ and the focus i get from it is incredible...that is myfav thin about a good preworkout is the tunnel vision and this one delivers big time!

    Decided to go heavier today, just wanted to still getting good depth though, def. below parallel.

    Squats
    205x8
    215x8
    225x6
    235x3 RPx2 RPx1
    135x15
    145x15
    155x15

    Explosive squats
    7 sets of 3 w/135

    Leg Press
    410x8
    410x8
    430x4 RPx3 RPx3
    360x12 DS 270x23 DS 180x25

    Glute Bridge
    185x10
    185x10
    195x10
    205x8+4 resting on ground between reps

    RDL
    185x8
    195x8
    195x7
    135 - str8 leg on box so i could get a good stretch at teh bottom x 12

    Lunges
    60x15 (per leg)
    60x15
    70x15
    70x16 DS BW x 15

    Seated leg curl FST-7 Squeezing and stretching between each set - 85lbs

    Seated leg Ext. FST - 7 Squeezing and stretching between each set - 70 lbs crazy burn on both of these


    killer workout prolly wont be walking normal for a while - before hgh pro a workout like this woudl probably have me sore for a week, so this shoudl be interesting to see how quickly i recover
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    yeha im jsut gonna stick with 3 for now then to have it last longer... actualyl i think ill do four tonight because of the hard workout i had so i will porbably do 3 every night except on leg days.
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    That's not uncommon. I've had a few guys tell me that three works just as well as four.
  

  
 

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