AK's Lit-Up/E-bol/Recompadrol log unsponsored
- 10-04-2011, 04:08 AM
AK's Lit-Up/E-bol/Recompadrol log unsponsored
here starts my log on the new stack.
A sort of "body, you need to shut up and do what I tell you to do!"
Odd combination maybe but you know I'm not new at
running somewhat odd stacks and/or supplements in a weird way.
So, I'm putting together two of the products that increased my strength more than any other:
Lit-Up (prewo) and E-bol (adaptogen/ecdy) and a nutrient partitioner Recompadrol (finally I got it)
Now recompadrol will be in my hands in a coupla days, meantime we start with the first two
to see how they work together, I'll add Recompadrol as soon as I get it.
Lit-Up has a great forumla, sodium DAA based prewo,
E-bol ecdy based sup with also a killer formula.
Recompadrol, nutrient partitioner that a lot of people point out
as the best, this is the first time for me with this one.
I found nutrient partitioners to work very well on me
despite I'm a low carber, my previous combo with Glycobol
simply gave me I think my best shape ever, vascularity is crazy
and strength was still up (vascularity on the last E-bol run was
crazy too, so this is gonna be fun..)
Lit-Up will be run at 2 scoops a day, prewo
for E-bol I'll follow the blueprint timing and take 2cps 1hour prewo with fish oil, and 2cps
pwo with my whey shaker.
Other sups: whey, fish oil, beta alanine, creapure, multivit, BCAA
Hardcore low carber (30gr a day on days on, traces on days off).
I do IF, stop eating at midnight, workout fasted (just BCAA + prewo, details later)
and my first meal is around 5 or 6 pm.
I'll start Recompadrol 1cps a day with my first or my last meal
it depends in which one I have the carbs, most likely the first one.
Cals are about 1500/1700 a day, lower on day off, higher on refeed day.
I usually don't carb up for the refeed (just a mixed meal to boost cals),
but I will try to once I have recompadrol
I eat *clean*, no cheats, ever, as clean as it gets.
age 34, weight 171lbs, 4/5% BF, high 174cm
6 days on, 1 day off, sessions are very long, and *very* high intensity
The week looks approximately like this:
Day1: Deadlift, Squats (light), Abs
Day2: Chest, tri
Day4: usually arms and abs, but I use this day to train the muscle group I feel it needs it
Day7: Rest (we'll call this *sh#t day)
keeping BF as low as it is while increasing strength and hopefully do lil lean gains.
Pictures before the stack can be found here (up to date, just few days ago)
Yesterday was chest day, my fav, DOMS are crazy good today,
about to get the goodies and hit the gym in 30min.
Let's see what happens
- 10-04-2011, 05:25 AM
10-04-2011, 07:53 AM
10-04-2011, 09:20 AM
10-04-2011, 09:29 AM
10-04-2011, 09:39 AM
I`m in bud
30g of carbs daily of…veggies, rice, oatmeal…or?
Once you start with Recompadrol NOT SCARE if repently your HUNGRY increase and you have a uncontrollable desire of sugary things this means (your body has low sugar levels). I run 3 bottles in a row and never fail me is simply amazing Stuff.
10-04-2011, 09:43 AM
10-04-2011, 03:29 PM
My first DAA product but the whole formula seems to work so well on me, I can spot what it does so well
Training is simply not the same without it for me, see, training in a fasted state take time to get used to,
and even when you are used, and the prewo product plays a more important place with this protocol.
The energy is never jittery with Lit-Up (i use stims, but I still get jittery if I abuse them and while that might
trick you in thinking you have more energy is not true).
I work out to failure on 5 of the 6 days, when on Lit-Up failure - maintaining the same routines - doesn't feel
the same then without it. I still have to experience that totally broken omg-i-can't-take-a-step-more pwo
feeling which is a problem sometimes since I have the whole day ahead.
Meaning, the energy *lasts*
It's steady thru all the workout and it just feels good. Also the nootropic effect of it is most def one of the thing
I like the most, for me concentration is everything, is what makes or waste a wo. Lit-Up gives me the right
amount, I'm sensitive to nootropics and some ingredients makes me focus yes, ON EVERYTHING!
On random things, which end up distracting me from the wo. Lit-Up doesn't, i'm there, all the time.
The only thing I've noticed with this run is that it seems to take a bit more to kick in, but that could be
easily my state, not a big deal, I'm just waiting few minutes more before really push it.
(i eat quite some of it, approximately I counted 5gr of carbs from it)
I'm not scared maybe I should but I don't just control hunger, I master it lol
Really I can control it pretty well.
As for the sweets - which I like - I have my ways to satisfy them. Protein rools, fat free greek yogurt w/choc whey, and
my home made protein bars, which are made with whey, z-sweet (zero cal, zero glycemic impact, zero carbs/sugar sweetener),
inulin (fiber, the only sugar alcohol with almost no cals at all, no impact on insulin, no stomach discomfort etc..) and egg whites.
I make a whole oven once a week and snack on 'em one bite at the time, they are ridiculously filling, no carbs/sugar, no fats.
Technically dried whey and egg whites.
First day impressions:
this will sound like a sponsored log but is not, broke another PR on bb shrug
Energy was crazy good and while it was only very first day, I think I can state (knowing well
what Lit-Up does) where E-bol came into play was a noticeable enhanced recovery,
more energy, both mental and physical, felt a great synergy with Lit-Up
Even if it was just a placebo (first day, could be) it worked at giving me a great wo day
Usually when you workout with this intensity you feel the energy somewhat going down
during the process, well, today the difference could be described as follows:
I was feeling the trained muscles getting stretched and burning and all the usual,
but not my body. Not that overwhelming heaviness that slowly but unavoidably
comes with hours of training. My mind was clear, my body simply felt *good* but
the trained muscles (you know especially traps - which i like to literally devastate - and delts
are small muscles, the burning is different from large muscles, is very concentrated..) were so sore.
This is gon' be tricky to describe.
I don't get DOMS easily, really, and I like them so I do my best,
to get them
Usually I get them the next day - when I do - never after few hours, well
while the pain is indeed different (as in not so sharp and fatiguing) the trained
muscles feel *heavy*, like there's something in me that keeps a big part of the pain
away but they feel like they would hurt like mofos if that "something" wasn't there.
I guess is the adaptogen.. or maybe I'm just imagining things I don't know.
I know that I had a bit more energy during the rest of the day, and that's unusual
Not that I didn't push it (new PR), actually something to be noticed about my training habits
I make sure I *always* add 1 more rep somewhere, one more lbs, whatever.. one more.
I am able to count on two hands the times I fail at this in one year.
One thing for sure, I have a very pronounced alpha feeling and my mood is great
(you can probably tell
from my excitement in the log lol).
To be noticed: vascularity was pretty crazy the whole day which for me
means looking gross to most people lol
You'd think you wouldn't get pumps when in low carb, well my body might be used
but I do get them and today were nice, very nice with Glycobol (absolutely *obivous* effect
of that, love it, that's where I wanna compare Recompadrol..)
Pre/pwo food 'n' sups looked like this:
* 1hour before wo: E-bol 2cps with 2gr of Fish Oil (blueprint, diary fats enhance half life of it)
* 30 min before wo:
Black Coffee, 10gr of bulk BCAA, 3.2gr of Beta Ala, 2,5gr Creapure, 3 tabs of Anavite,
2 scoops of Lit-Up, I skipped the caffeine today (forgot to take is, usually is 200mg) and didn't notice it
* Intra 10gr of bulk BCAA, 1 scoop of Xtend, 1gr of Vitamin C
* PWO 2cps of E-bol w/whey shaker containing 20gr of whey, 8/10gr of Oats.
* First meal 7pm with chicken sandwich (10gr of whole wheat bread), chicken, fat free cottage cheese,
fat free greek yogurt with roughly 40gr of whey, multivit, 2gr fish oil. A bite of my home made bar.
*There's gonna be a snack later and my last meal, pretty much the same stuff without the bread.
When Recompadrol gets in I will use it at first on refeed day (Day 1 or day 2 it depends how I feel)
see the effect and then try to integrated it in the workout days somehow, as usual, experimenting.
Going into details about the wo is tricky as I switch exercises on the fly
and I forget unless I write 'em down right away but it was something on the line:
* Warm up was something like BB shrugs 30reps, 10+10+10 from narrow to wider grip
again with front grip.
* BB shrugs 5 sets, 12/10/8/6 heavy, + last one new PR, 2 reps
3x seated weighted dips (
2 light/fast supersets with isometric at the end
* DB shrugs, 3 sets, heavy
vertical bb row superset, to failure
seated weighted dips superset, to failure
* 3 x seated bb shrug isometric (30sec, drop 2 plates, 30sec.. etc..)
* DB shoulder press 4 sets, heavy, added weights to all the sets
Side DB lateral raises superset (stiff arm), to failure
Front DB raises superset (alternate arms), to failure
Concentration bb vertical row (mid weight, very slow)
* Weighted dips 3 sets 12/10/8 (last one was forced, almost passed out lol)
One arm cable lateral raises 3 or 4 sets, don't remember
Barebell shoulder press (behind the neck), weird set, started as fast n light, ended heavy and slow
that was pretty much it I think, and sorry if I ****ed up some exercise name,
you know I'm improvising here. I might miss something, like I said,
I go with the flow, every single time so I forget wtf I do, I just know that I stop
only when I there's nothing left reallly.
Great first day! These three are gonna be fun to run together
10-04-2011, 04:01 PM
10-04-2011, 04:11 PM
10-04-2011, 04:12 PM
In to get lit up!!
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
10-04-2011, 05:01 PM
10-04-2011, 05:01 PM
but anyway i don't dose them together, did I write it somewhere?
My protein intake is quite high, even higher now on e-bol, whether they are
whey or/and BCAA, it happens that I dose them one next to the other on wo days,
I don't really pay much attention to the dosing of the two, I keep BCAAs
around my wo (morning) and my meals after 5/6pm, the only whey i get
before that are the 20gr pwo
10-04-2011, 05:37 PM
Holy detail and holy shreddedness! Im definitely in man
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10-04-2011, 06:27 PM
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10-04-2011, 08:10 PM
I handle stims quite well, actually I start to handle them too well, especially caffeine..
But there's no prewo that hits me in less than 25, that's usually my sweet spot,
I'm noticing this time it takes lil more, but also I do wo very first thing in the morning
so sometimes really depends on how I did I sleep and how I wake up and such.
Sorry for the long ass details, I have time on my hands these days, work will get
crazy soon, I'm taking advantage of a calm period now
I'll keep the next posts shorter
10-04-2011, 10:36 PM
Don't cut the details, I find them interesting - also, Litup usually hits me in 15-20Originally Posted by AutoKal47
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10-05-2011, 05:52 AM
Quick side note but worth mentioning: I'm very rarely hungry,
and the few times I do I control hunger very well. Yesterday I was definitely
hungry and since these last three days I've been kicking my own a$$ like no tomorrow
I had some more cottage cheese and whey-ed yogurt before going to bed, not that
I couldn't control it, I just didn't want to.
This morning, i woke up hungry again, for me that's a first! I do not recall
last time I've been hungry in the morning, even the smell of anything but coffee
makes me wanna puke in the morning, but not today, I'd eat a cow right now..
Now I wasn't about to change anything in my diet if not taking in some more
protein because of E-bol, but the reason because I'm running this specific stack
is because I've been thinking that at the condition I am now I will more likely
hit a plateau soon, and I am a very instinctive person with both diet and wo.
and I do feel like my body requires more nutrients right now, I'll listen to it.
So I am probably going to up the cals a bit, keeping IF protocol tho'
So far, no other stack or product raised my hunger, it might be just yesterday
and today but, i doubt it, it feels different, it's not feeling snacky - which happens sometimes -
I do want real food.. I think it's a good thing, we'll see
10-05-2011, 10:38 AM
10-05-2011, 11:38 AM
10-05-2011, 02:52 PM
I ran E-bol two times, two bottles both times and this is my third,
and this is the first time I experience this. Again, it's nice, I do consider this
new for me effect pleasant because, A) is telling me that is working, B) maybe due to the
mood enhancing effect, I don't feel bad about it (which is what usually happens) because
more than hunger is really my body demanding nutrients, is not annoying and it doesn't
put me into a state of mind of "omg I wanna eat but I can't", as a matter of fact,
today I was busy and I eat at 7.40pm, almost two hours later than I usually do
which when you've been fasting for 14/16 hours already is quite some time,
and yet I wasn't really feeling it, I just took in more protein in my meal and I feel good.
The fact that I'm experiencing this only now makes me think that is most likely
the different timing/dosing protocol? Or maybe my body in this particular condition/moment
reacts this way but, def dosing it 2cps x 3 times a day as suggested against
how I'm doing it now (blueprint, so morning wo: 2cps 1h prewo, 2cps pwo and two cps before last meal)
*does* make a difference.
Today's report, day 2
Again, the most noticeable effect was pwo.
I had way more energy thru the rest of the day after my wo,
great mood, and I'm noticing fullness and vascularity after a meal,
pretty noticeable. Is more than pump, hard to describe.
Similar to Glycobol effect but this one comes in conjunction of some sort
of tingly feeling, close to the beta ala tingling but not that strong.
Feels nice for sure.
was the same as yesterday 'cept for about 25gr more of protein at my first
meal which is the only one I had at the time I'm writing this today.
I'm only raising daily protein intake of about 40gr a day up until
Sunday or Monday, which ever is gonna be the refeed day (Sunday is Day 1, see first post)
I always decide which one is refeed day based on how much I push on day 1,
if I'm not entirely satisfied with Sunday wo I always know I can count on Day 2, chest day,
that *never* goes bad. This way my refeed is whether the first or the second of three heavy days,
Anyways, next refeed day is gonna be my first dose of Recompadrol (checked the tracking, it'll be here on
Fri), and that's gonna be the day i will try to carb up a bit.
with 40/50gr of protein added are raised of about 220/240 cals,
for the first carb-based refeef I will swap those 200ish calories from the added protein
with clean carbs, potatoes or brown rice, or fat free oatmeals pancakes, we'll see, split in two
meals. The reason is I want to see how my body react to carbs (if I feel bloated as usual or not)
and if I feel better and like Recompadrol effect, I'll try to raise the calories a bit more, maybe +350 or something like that.
As stated before, it seems the right time to try to push the gains a bit and if there's one moment
I think I can do it while keeping the BF this low, is now. Lit-Up gives me drive and strength, E-bol better recovery,
sense of well being and great mood, more energy and better protein breakdown and synthesis,
and I wanna believe I am lean enough to be able to boost cals/carbs without adding fat, especially
considering the intensity of my training, which I most def don't count correctly when calculating
daily calories usage.
Today was Day 4, so an odd day.
It used to be my day off, but for several reasons it became
a day on. I don't wanna say I take it easy on day 4 but, kind of.
I use this day for biceps and a totally different abs routine (different from the
heavy weighted other two abs days in the week, Day1 and 5) and to train whatever muscle group I feel like I didn't train
properly, or well enough during the week before.
I still have DOMS on my chest from freakin' monday and still feeling last sunday's deadlifts,
shoulders and traps were yesterday and even moving the wheel while driving today was
"nice" as in, slightly painful.
So, really no muscle seemed to be needing additional work, hence, it was biceps and abs.
Biceps was pretty classic exercise, ez-bar, curls, cable preacher curls, various other cable
exercises for supersets and burn..
This day usually presents no problem, it's the day I workout with my mind at ease you know?
Not obsessing about weight, but really concentrating on the form, no ego (i usually don't have any anyway but still..)
I don't think about the "omfg I'm gonna break my PR today", so it's enjoyable and the great mood made things even better.
But! I was feeling very energetic and I did push way more than I usually do, but lifting was easy, I had great pumps
my chest was all vascular while doing arms and well, that's it.. It was good.
Then I switched to abs, like I said different routine and different exercises from the other two days,
slower, with less weight, paying attention again to concentration and contraction, different speeds,
different rest times. It went good, but at some point I literally "SNAPPED" for no real reason..
A cable got stuck and distracted me for what it seemed too long,
making me loose stamina and rhythm, and my reaction was waaay over the top
It's not due to the sups tho',
I use to have anger issues and well, sometimes something pops out.
Fortunately I know how to deal with it and I just put the anger at some use,
loading weight and training hard and heavy.
Again, this is when Lit-Up always surprise me, you reach for the energy at the end
of your wo day and you freakin' find it there, same for the concentration
So overall report, again, great mood, energy that lasts, both for the wo (lit-up)
and for the following hours (e-bol), with mental alertness and clarity,
good kind of hunger and feeling when eating.
10-05-2011, 02:55 PM
idk where you saw im sensitive to stims. i hardly take a pre workout, but it takes alot to hit me (for some products). like jack3d, 4 scoops does nothing for me. but Lit Up, Meso, Launch = 1-2 scoops
10-05-2011, 02:58 PM
10-05-2011, 03:06 PM
Did you have noticed this with the use of E-bol?
Increased weight gain (NOT FAT),super nitrogen retention (you feel and see bigger)
10-05-2011, 03:57 PM
I reported these effects in my past runs of E-bol yes, and actually wrote it in other posts about ecdy.
Especially the very first time I ran it the effects were so very noticeable, I remember getting
one bottle just to try and half way thru getting a second bottle because the effects were pretty great.
I did increase weight, absolutely no fat actually the opposite, I was more vascular and if the
weight wasn't that much more (due to my diet) size and muscle fullness were definitely obvious and,
it looked like I did gain much more weight than it actually was.
So yes to all of the above + strength increase. That's why I decided to stack it with Lit-Up,
the 2 products that gave me the most noticeable strength increase.
Altho' while Lit-up does that from day 1 of use, E-bol I recall taking a bit more to show that particular effect.
You know what the funny thing is? I've been having here these two unopened bottles of E-bol for some
months now, the new run has been postponed because I kept trying new products, which - in the same field
of E-bol, other great sups out there for different things - were all pretty much ineffective, very disappointing.
They made me reconsider how noticeable and good were the effects of E-bol.
10-05-2011, 05:27 PM
ill be following along.
side note: if you are sensitive to stimulants increase your antioxidents. That can be why. Added Vit E and C can help
And extra co q 10 before a workout can aid fat loss./
10-05-2011, 05:29 PM
Man AK I wanted to comment on your hungry post but my phone screwed up and erased it lol.
Very interesting on the ecdy. When I ran the iforce stacked with the LG version I was able to increase my overall protein intake and muscle synthesis level I feel.
I never thought it increased protein breakdown as well though. Even though I know the body has balance I would think protein breakdown would be stable on ecdy. Interesting indeed.
Ebol had the best extracts of ecdy I hear so I might run it in November if I can get the funds around.
10-05-2011, 05:30 PM
10-05-2011, 06:16 PM
(once I'm in the right shape, I'm still kinda self conscious about my body lol)
Speaking of which, I'm noticing my veins are sticking out a tad more,
they look like wo time, only I wo 12 hours ago.. Whole body not like
arms and the abs (today's wo), legs I think look ever more obvious,
I can't wait to add Recompadrol
10-05-2011, 06:34 PM
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