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  1. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Yesterday was the day we normally play ball at the church, but they have VBS this week. We were gonna get together and play outside somewhere else, but there just wasn't enough people. So, I took the night off. I'd normally do some cardio, instead, but my legs were still shot from Sunday's session. They're a bit sore, still, but much better, today.

    I'll be hitting chest this afternoon. I'm not sure what style the workout will be, yet.

    Shoutout to Makaveli for hooking me up with some great reading in regards to my thyroid issue. I feel like I'm learning what I need to, now, and hope to get some resolution, soon (for those interested, the links are now in the official hypothyroidism thread on AM).
    you betchya bro. We'll get everything figured out one way or another.

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    I've started a bottle of it as well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    you betchya bro. We'll get everything figured out one way or another.
    We work too hard and care too much not to, bro. Wouldn't rather be battling this thing with anyone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I've started a bottle of it as well...
    When did you start? and are you logging at all? I'm very interested to hear / follow results from someone with a functional thyroid lol
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteConny View Post
    I recently ran a bottle myself. Imo it suppressed my appetite and made me warm. And I like it a lot. No cramps either
    I'm on week 2 of my run...dosing now up to 3 caps all preWO (to 'syergize' with XFA/ArA per Coops suggestion)...definatley feeling warmer, no cramps...sweat 'a lot' when working out...now that you mentioned appetite...it has been more in check the last 2 weeks....hmmmm

    Glad to see you're doing well with it Beast!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    When did you start? and are you logging at all? I'm very interested to hear / follow results from someone with a functional thyroid lol
    I started monday, just logging in general in my thiomucase log. I'm taking it along with a dose of vapo XT, HEAT and post cycle support 3-4x a day, with the last dose prebed without the vapo xt.
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    oh and just to add, calling my thyroid functional is sort of iffy...

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  7. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Yesterday was the day we normally play ball at the church, but they have VBS this week. We were gonna get together and play outside somewhere else, but there just wasn't enough people. So, I took the night off. I'd normally do some cardio, instead, but my legs were still shot from Sunday's session. They're a bit sore, still, but much better, today.

    I'll be hitting chest this afternoon. I'm not sure what style the workout will be, yet.

    Shoutout to Makaveli for hooking me up with some great reading in regards to my thyroid issue. I feel like I'm learning what I need to, now, and hope to get some resolution, soon (for those interested, the links are now in the official hypothyroidism thread on AM).

    changing up as much as you do w your routine is more of what I have been doing lately!
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    Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    I'm on week 2 of my run...dosing now up to 3 caps all preWO (to 'syergize' with XFA/ArA per Coops suggestion)...definatley feeling warmer, no cramps...sweat 'a lot' when working out...now that you mentioned appetite...it has been more in check the last 2 weeks....hmmmm

    Glad to see you're doing well with it Beast!
    Sounds like it's working well for you!

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I started monday, just logging in general in my thiomucase log. I'm taking it along with a dose of vapo XT, HEAT and post cycle support 3-4x a day, with the last dose prebed without the vapo xt.
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    oh and just to add, calling my thyroid functional is sort of iffy...

    That's no fun, man. Thyroid issues, suck.

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    changing up as much as you do w your routine is more of what I have been doing lately!
    I'm normally a big fan of using a routine that works well until it stops producing results, but getting in there without stims pre-workout is not fun lol. This helps a little bit.
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    6/15/11 - Chest

    Bench Press: 135x20/185x15/225x12/255x10/255x7/225x10
    Incline Bench Press: 135x15/185x10/205x7/205x8/185x10
    DB Flys (low incline): 40's x 20 / 55's x 12
    Dips: BWx8 *(only felt in tri's and not chest at all)



    Well, the numbers are less than impressive. The incline bench was taken, so I started off on flat bench. Last Summer I was doing 365x6 at my best, so the above is frustrating lol. I definitely had an insane chest pump, though. The motivation and drive are still lacking a bit as I'm off stims.




    I spent most of the afternoon today in the city at the doc's office. They went over my labs of being on T4 at 112mcg now (up from 50) for 6 weeks. My TSH is down to 1.8 (from the original 5.67) and I can't remember FT4, but it's in range, too. They said that's when they'd normally tell me to come back in 3 months for more labs, but she (it was a nurse practitioner as my endo was out sick) was very receptive to listening to me, knowing that I did a lot of research and took this very seriously. I ended up having blood drawn right there to check: cortisol, reverse T3 to Free T3, B12, thyroid antibodies (to rule out or confirm Hashimoto's thyroiditis), and a full iron panel. I felt good about the visit and we'll see what those tests turn up in about a week.

    I ended up being there for way too long, and it had been 6 hours since I'd last eaten by the time I got home. Factor that in with the 6 vials of blood I had taken from me and I decided to push Back to tomorrow and not have a piss-poor workout tonight.

    By the way, weight yesterday morning upon rising was 240 lbs and today was 236.8 lbs. I'll be keeping an eye on that and fingers crossed we'll actually see a steady decline for a change instead of this normal up and down garbage that has been my life the last 8 months or more.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    6/15/11 - Chest

    Bench Press: 135x20/185x15/225x12/255x10/255x7/225x10
    Incline Bench Press: 135x15/185x10/205x7/205x8/185x10
    DB Flys (low incline): 40's x 20 / 55's x 12
    Dips: BWx8 *(only felt in tri's and not chest at all)



    Well, the numbers are less than impressive. The incline bench was taken, so I started off on flat bench. Last Summer I was doing 365x6 at my best, so the above is frustrating lol. I definitely had an insane chest pump, though. The motivation and drive are still lacking a bit as I'm off stims.




    I spent most of the afternoon today in the city at the doc's office. They went over my labs of being on T4 at 112mcg now (up from 50) for 6 weeks. My TSH is down to 1.8 (from the original 5.67) and I can't remember FT4, but it's in range, too. They said that's when they'd normally tell me to come back in 3 months for more labs, but she (it was a nurse practitioner as my endo was out sick) was very receptive to listening to me, knowing that I did a lot of research and took this very seriously. I ended up having blood drawn right there to check: cortisol, reverse T3 to Free T3, B12, thyroid antibodies (to rule out or confirm Hashimoto's thyroiditis), and a full iron panel. I felt good about the visit and we'll see what those tests turn up in about a week.

    I ended up being there for way too long, and it had been 6 hours since I'd last eaten by the time I got home. Factor that in with the 6 vials of blood I had taken from me and I decided to push Back to tomorrow and not have a piss-poor workout tonight.

    By the way, weight yesterday morning upon rising was 240 lbs and today was 236.8 lbs. I'll be keeping an eye on that and fingers crossed we'll actually see a steady decline for a change instead of this normal up and down garbage that has been my life the last 8 months or more.
    Sounds like you had a productive dr's visit bro. I'm glad to know you got all those tests done, that should most certainly be VITAL info in getting to the bottom of things and getting it all straightened out. I'm especially curious to here your iron levels and reverse t3.

    Your battle is my battle man, you know I'm right there with ya with getting back on track. Let me know how those tests come out.
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  11. Nice log man. Keep up the battle. I'm not looking forward to my upcoming stim break...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    Sounds like you had a productive dr's visit bro. I'm glad to know you got all those tests done, that should most certainly be VITAL info in getting to the bottom of things and getting it all straightened out. I'm especially curious to here your iron levels and reverse t3.

    Your battle is my battle man, you know I'm right there with ya with getting back on track. Let me know how those tests come out.
    Thanks, bro. It was definitely a great visit. The only endo in my town was booked til mid June when I called back in April. So, I decided to try one in the city. He happened to be the first one listed in network, so I called and they got me in on April 20th -- 2 months sooner lol. I ended up reading some reviews on him online a day or two before going up and they were very negative. Not even one good one to counter-balance it. However, I felt like I needed to still go and he turned out to be an awesome guy and was even looking at my test being part of the issue -- nice to find someone who doesn't just say in-range is acceptable.

    Anyway, he was out, so I met with a nurse practitioner. Again, I was a bit worried, but she turned out to be awesome. She seemed very willing to listen to me and work with me knowing that I'd done so much research. I should have tried to get her to sign off on test, too, to see what it would read with no test boosters or anything having been used in like a month lol.

    I told her about knowing a guy who had the reverse T3 issue and how our stories were like mirror images. I told her even if this is to just rule it out, then it would put my mind at ease, but I'd kick myself if I waited and never checked. We've got this thing, man. I'll definitely post what I find out whenever the results come in, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Nice log man. Keep up the battle. I'm not looking forward to my upcoming stim break...
    Thanks, bud! And yeah, the stim break blows. I've done a 4-weeker and 5-weeker so far (April of last year and sometime around last Summer or Fall). I hadn't taken a real break from stims in several years, though, since starting pre-workouts that are jam-packed with them. One of my main worries was adrenal fatigue (sensitivity levels are definitely shot; no doubt about that) and how that may have cortisol levels working against my thyroid and the T4. I plan on going at least 12 weeks without stims. We'll see what I find out and if I have to, I'll stay off longer. Workouts suck without my normal pre-workouts so far, though.
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  13. Coming off stims totally suck. I recently came off ECA and 1,3Dimeth and I felt like sh!t after that. Started dosing 1 scoop Focus XT per day after that and I am good again (I don't count caffeine as a stim, I drink too much coffee every day either way )
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteConny View Post
    Coming off stims totally suck. I recently came off ECA and 1,3Dimeth and I felt like sh!t after that. Started dosing 1 scoop Focus XT per day after that and I am good again (I don't count caffeine as a stim, I drink too much coffee every day either way )
    Yeah, man, it blows.

    I would rather not count caffeine, but I'd ran E/C twice, so I was taking in 600mg caffeine/day right there, on top of whatever was in the pre-workout of choice at the time. Nothing just felt the way it used to and I had probably gone close to 3 years or more of not adhering to labels (can't say I ever read the 8 weeks on, 4 weeks off portion of any product). 4 weeks off and 5 weeks off did nothing, so here's to seeing if 12 does it. And if it doesn't, based on 1 scoop of a pre-workout, I'll just keep breaking.
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  15. 600mg of caffeine daily But regarding your past I'd say a break is much needed to let your CNS rest - good call
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteConny View Post
    600mg of caffeine daily But regarding your past I'd say a break is much needed to let your CNS rest - good call
    lol 200mg caffeine + 25mg ephedrine 3x/day +400-500mg EGCg 2x/day

    The first time I ran it, I shredded up pretty good without even having proper nutrition back then; just ate clean and much less.

    However, tried it again (after one of my stim breaks) and with much more nutritional knowledge and got squat from it.

    I always laugh whenever someone (namely women at my office or my mother) talks about how a soda or coffee keeps them up at night or wired for a whole day and I say "I wish."
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    I always laugh whenever someone (namely women at my office or my mother) talks about how a soda or coffee keeps them up at night or wired for a whole day and I say "I wish."
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    I can drink a cappuccino and go right to bed after. Just for laughs, progress using tta so far has been 4 to 5 pounds lost since Monday. The prior week I was on vacation and had gained around 7 pounds, ans its almost gone already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I can drink a cappuccino and go right to bed after. Just for laughs, progress using tta so far has been 4 to 5 pounds lost since Monday. The prior week I was on vacation and had gained around 7 pounds, ans its almost gone already.
    lol I'm in the same boat as you (except I hate coffee lol). My weight the past 3 days has gone from 240->236.8->238. We'll see how it goes for the long haul. According to labs, my body should be in perfect condition to function properly, now, but I'll feel more confident when I get labs back next week to rule out other things.
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  20. man you got me wanting to throw some things in just to see if it would do any good at all. I have a huge stash of supps I need to use up eventually. Stuff like heat and dcp etc.. But I'm torn, I dont know whether to try some of them and see if I can get a tiny bit of benefit out of them while trying to fix things, or if that is just a waste and I should wait until my thyroid problems are fixed and THEN use them up to get the real benefit.

    Maybe I'll wait a bit and see if you manage to get anything out of TTA. And I hope you do man.
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    well, with or without thyroid issues, TTA still increases lipolysis. its a much more direct mechanism of action on the fat cells from what I recall, rather than a thyroid mediated effect. I could be misremembering, it was like 3-4 years ago I researched it heavily
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    man you got me wanting to throw some things in just to see if it would do any good at all. I have a huge stash of supps I need to use up eventually. Stuff like heat and dcp etc.. But I'm torn, I dont know whether to try some of them and see if I can get a tiny bit of benefit out of them while trying to fix things, or if that is just a waste and I should wait until my thyroid problems are fixed and THEN use them up to get the real benefit.

    Maybe I'll wait a bit and see if you manage to get anything out of TTA. And I hope you do man.
    Wait. It's incredibly hard to restrain yourself, but do lol. You have no idea how badly I want to run all the things I have. But, why waste good product when it's not going to work to its full potential? It's disappointing enough to think back to how much we wasted beforehand when we didn't know we had thyroid problems. I hope TTA proves to live up to the cult following, as well.

    I'll run this log for the duration and I'll also soon be running Titanium+Adamantium for Athletix, too. My bloodwork that is currently still out will determine what I'll do next. If it's reverse T3, then I'll stay the course and halt anything else until that's resolved. If indeed, the current dose of T4 is working and it just took this long to build up, then I'll likely dive into that bin of goodies and go balls out.

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    well, with or without thyroid issues, TTA still increases lipolysis. its a much more direct mechanism of action on the fat cells from what I recall, rather than a thyroid mediated effect. I could be misremembering, it was like 3-4 years ago I researched it heavily
    I like the sound of that. Thanks for that, Easy.
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  23. Time for me to catch up.
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    Time for me to catch up.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Wait. It's incredibly hard to restrain yourself, but do lol. You have no idea how badly I want to run all the things I have. But, why waste good product when it's not going to work to its full potential? It's disappointing enough to think back to how much we wasted beforehand when we didn't know we had thyroid problems. I hope TTA proves to live up to the cult following, as well.

    I'll run this log for the duration and I'll also soon be running Titanium+Adamantium for Athletix, too. My bloodwork that is currently still out will determine what I'll do next. If it's reverse T3, then I'll stay the course and halt anything else until that's resolved. If indeed, the current dose of T4 is working and it just took this long to build up, then I'll likely dive into that bin of goodies and go balls out.



    I like the sound of that. Thanks for that, Easy.
    Yah, it's especially hard to restrain from a pre workout, argh! But it will make it all that much sweeter when we are comfortable adding stuff back in. I think you said your most current tsh came back close to 2?

    I know it's all pretty subjective, but do you think you have gotten worse (as in symptoms ie, weight gain etc..) since you started the T4? If high reverse t3 is your problem like me, then the T4 would of, or could have actually made it worse, since it would have all gotten converted into reverse t3.

    That's kind of how I discovered my problem, I was on T3 for about a week and my temps went up and started feeling a bit better, so I tried to add in some T4 instead, and lower the T3 dose, and I immediately got worse, within a day or two.

    Waiting for labs is torture man I know. Hopefully you get some helpful news one way or another. I'm sure you will, I got a good feeling about it bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    Yah, it's especially hard to restrain from a pre workout, argh! But it will make it all that much sweeter when we are comfortable adding stuff back in. I think you said your most current tsh came back close to 2?

    I know it's all pretty subjective, but do you think you have gotten worse (as in symptoms ie, weight gain etc..) since you started the T4? If high reverse t3 is your problem like me, then the T4 would of, or could have actually made it worse, since it would have all gotten converted into reverse t3.

    That's kind of how I discovered my problem, I was on T3 for about a week and my temps went up and started feeling a bit better, so I tried to add in some T4 instead, and lower the T3 dose, and I immediately got worse, within a day or two.

    Waiting for labs is torture man I know. Hopefully you get some helpful news one way or another. I'm sure you will, I got a good feeling about it bro
    I hear you, bro. It's weird to think how reliant we are on the pre-workouts. It's hard for me to remember working out without one back in the day. Yeah, my new TSH panel shows me at 1.8, so if it's legit, it's good.

    I don't know if I'd say I've gotten worse since starting or not. I know I haven't gotten better by any means. My weight has essentially been the same (right around 240) the entire 4+ months I've been on T4. What I can say, though, is that recently I've started to have slightly better energy levels. However, that could very likely be due to my stim break nearing the one-month mark and that balancing itself out (while taking Revamp for adrenal function and NOW's Thyroid Energy to help with getting more vitamins/minerals in for thyroid function). I've also been using that iodine you told me about since last Tuesday (so like 10 days, now). I was going to stop it, since it would make RT3 even worse, but until I know if that's it, I figure I'll keep it, because maybe if I don't have RT3, it's just what I need to help trigger everything.

    Since I haven't used T3 at all, I don't have a comparison point; I almost am tempted to, but we'll leave that for whenever I find out on the lab work rather than mess with anything at the moment. I'm actually not worried about waiting for the labs this time. In fact, I've been relaxed a bit more lately (which I actually attribute more than anything else to the girl I'm talking to). I've been stressed out for like 4 straight months about this alone (not to mention other things), so that's obviously not conducive to fat-loss by any means.

    I've got a good feeling as well. Not sure if it's about finding out that I have RT3 or that what I'm on is actually going to work. But, I have a sense of peace about it, finally (for the moment lol). Getting to talk with you about it has certainly helped that significantly.
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    6/17/11 - Back


    Pullups: x15/x15/x15/x10+5
    Bent-over BB Rows: 145x15/x12/x10/x8
    T-Bar Rows: 135x15/140x12/x10/x8
    Solo DB Rows: 70x15/x12/x10/x8
    Reverse Grip Lat Pulldowns: 140x15/x12/x10
    Lat Pulldowns: 140x15/x12/x10


    Total Workout Time: 58 minutes


    The workout felt good, tonight. I ended up going in late, again, which was nice -- less people to worry about and more able to focus. I took 4g LCLT and a sample of Ragnok caffeine-free. I was very pleased with it. I was planning on doing the stim-break pre-workouts with just a variety of bulk products, but I may have to break down and purchase something. It was much more focused tonight.

    I'm still not pleased with the numbers compared to what I normally put up. However, I increased weight on all lifts except for the pulldowns (both variations). My game plan is to add the minimal amount of weight each week while maintaining strict form. That is the big key on this. My right lat comes down a little bit lower than my left and my left shoulder is rolled a bit forward -- I'm trying to fix all of this. I may see a chiropractor soon, too.

    I'm slowly starting to get the gym swagger back, which is great. When this song came on, tonight, it was lights out:



    Around the 1:20 mark; when it comes on, I just go nuts and want to beat my chest like I'm a gorilla. Love getting that amped up.

    It's not great, since I shot it myself and couldn't pose as well as I'd like, but here's a shot of my back after the workout:

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  28. Looking good bro. I hope you get the answers you're looking for.

  29. lookin swole man. You put me to shame, lol. Just think how sweet you'll look when you get everything straightened out and are able to cut up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Looking good bro. I hope you get the answers you're looking for.
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    lookin swole man. You put me to shame, lol. Just think how sweet you'll look when you get everything straightened out and are able to cut up.
    Thanks, guys. Got to find the positives wherever I can.

    And Makaveli, you say I put you to shame? Says the dude repping out 405 when I can barely push 250 on bench at the moment lol!
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