First Log! Androhard + Dermacrine

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    I've been taking my BP first thing in the morning and it is still pretty reasonable. Also late afternoon is slightly higher but still not horrible, especially considering the stims I take throughout the day (coffee, tea, leviathan reloaded in the morning, etc).

    So I'm enjoying it so far. I will continue to keep track of my BP, I haven't seen anything on hair loss to be honest but I put some rogaine up there from time to time just to make sure since I have thin hair. But I haven't experienced much, at least no "Witches" scene where all my hair is coming down! (Props to those who get the reference! One horrible movie! haha)

    So I may bump it up a little. I'm currently at 5ml at 7AM, 5ml at 7PM, will toss in another 2ml on each gradually and see how I react to it. I may start phasing back nearing the end of the cycle so that PCT is not a major blow in my face.
    Here are some logs:
    Primordial Performance Fat Loss Stack + Androhard (Sponsored) Log - OUFINNY Style
    Bludevil's FatLoss Stack + AndroHard (sponsored by PP)
    Gettin' Hard! with PP's Androhard and 1-T LV Log
    Superdrone+Androhard+Dermacrin Cycle LOG



  2. I'm gonna bump my later dose today with an extra 1ML and will do that until I reach 2 7.5ml doses thorugh the day and see how that goes.

    Would just OTC PCT still work even at higher dosages though? I have my SERM but would prefer against using it if I can. I will try to get bloodwork nearing hte end of hte cycle to see overall shutdown and evaluate.
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    I'm gonna bump my later dose today with an extra 1ML and will do that until I reach 2 7.5ml doses thorugh the day and see how that goes.

    Would just OTC PCT still work even at higher dosages though? I have my SERM but would prefer against using it if I can. I will try to get bloodwork nearing hte end of hte cycle to see overall shutdown and evaluate.
    What is your PCT again?
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  4. I'd say your current PCT scheme will still suffice. AHv1 is not very suppressive and would have to be dosed very, very high to cause some major shutdown.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  5. Sounds good, will continue with it then and up it until I reach about 15 - 20 ml a day.

    My PCT right now is the TRS from Primordial Performance, my staples and I'm considering if I should toss in some Erase or something else in there too. I also have some leftover Anabolic Edge, but that would just be an overall supp and not really a PCT material per say.

    Serm is still at hand in case I notice anything else.
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html
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  6. If it gives you peace of mind, then use a low dose SERM throughout PCT. Roughly a half dose scheme would be more than enough.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  7. I was dropped to page 2... That must mean I am slacking, big time!

    I will continue as planned, sitting at 14ml/day today, Aiming to get to 18ml/day and keep it there until the end of the cycle; by my calculations that will pretty much run both bottles dry.

    Dermacrine is the one I'm afraid will be running out before the end, how problematic would that be? Will I have to put in an express order on this? I have even bumped it down to about 3 pumps a day, don't even know if that would even be effective Or if I should go at 5 pumps and just let it be once it runs out.

    Anyways, to the fun part, workout:

    Underhand Pulldown: 16 bars (I'm not quite sure the weight on each...): 14 reps
    Hammer Machine Row: 90lbs, 16 reps
    Machine Incline Bench Press: 140lb, 13 reps (this one was cut short not on exhausting but my right shoulder was feeling it a little much, I may need to rethink this and go to free weights)
    Barbell Shoulder Press: 45lbs, 22 reps. Again, I'm very iffy about my shoulders so I rather take it a little slower than bust it again...
    Triceps Pushdown V-Bar with back support: 9 bars, 15 reps.

    Today I was even considering a spin class, but I feel like that could take too much away from my legs in order for me to work them out well tomorrow so I will maybe just go with my usual jump rope, eliptical, swim routine.
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html

  8. Keep the Derm at 5 pumps, you will be fine if you have to carry on with the AH solo.


  9. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Today I was even considering a spin class, but I feel like that could take too much away from my legs in order for me to work them out well tomorrow so I will maybe just go with my usual jump rope, eliptical, swim routine.
    Yeah, I have considered doing one of these classes once just to force me into cardio I hardly do, however, Im too paranoid that the over exertion common in those class would be counter productive to my muscle gains.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Yeah, I have considered doing one of these classes once just to force me into cardio I hardly do, however, Im too paranoid that the over exertion common in those class would be counter productive to my muscle gains.
    I have the same thoughts, " is this goin to blunt growth and recovery? ". Only one way to find out is to try it for a while and see what happens.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Yeah, I have considered doing one of these classes once just to force me into cardio I hardly do, however, Im too paranoid that the over exertion common in those class would be counter productive to my muscle gains.
    Here's my take on this, take it for whatever

    I skipped the spin class yesterday, and what I'm going to do is wait until I only do one set of legs on the week (aka, next week) and THEN do the spin either on Thursday and just fight through the pain or Monday / Thursday.

    My main concern wasn't the overload or the fatigue, I think I have pretty good recovery from what I've gathered so far, main problem was being a little sore and because of that slacking on today's workout.

    So I just jumped some ropes (I actually have a jump rope "split". I jump rope for 3 mins as hard as I can, drop down and do 3 sets of Abs - one for top, one for bottom, one for obliques - and then get back up and do another 3 mins hardcore, repeat 4 times. This ends up being about half hour long usually), just did about 20 mins of eliptical after that.
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html

  12. ^^ I hate it when my stomach muscles cramp up after much neglect and deciding to do them (abs )again.
    Primordial Performance
    ( at heart )

  13. Just eat and sleep more Of course the older you get this no longer works the same, lol.


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  15. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Just eat and sleep more Of course the older you get this no longer works the same, lol.
    This.

    In only 3 years, I've already noticed a huge change in my recovery time from when I was training 25-30 hours a week for MMA to now. I attempt to do maybe 15 hours a week and I'm shot within a month.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  16. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    This.

    In only 3 years, I've already noticed a huge change in my recovery time from when I was training 25-30 hours a week for MMA to now. I attempt to do maybe 15 hours a week and I'm shot within a month.
    Ya, if you are performing at a high level it is really noticeable even by your mid 20's, and when you hit 30 it's downright depressing.


  17. Improving and improving...

    This was last one of this set:

    Widegrip Pulldown: 130lbs, 10, 5, 3.
    T-Bar Row: 150lbs, 10, 5, 3.
    Dumbbell Bench Press: 70lb each arm, 11, 6, 4.
    Machine Lateral Raise: 100lbs, 11, 7, 5.
    Cable Triceps Pushdown: 150lbs, 9, 6, 3.

    This was today:
    Widegrip Lat Pulldown: 190lb, 16 reps
    T-Bar Row: 170lbs, 16 reps
    Dumbbell Bench Press: 75lbs, 16 reps
    Dumbbell Lateral Raise: 30lbs, 18 reps
    Cable Triceps Pushdown: 160lbs, 18 reps

    Overall good workout, then did my split with the jump ropes again, am beat up right now and ready for bedtime.
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html

  18. Still got a couple more weeks of cycle but am planning on perhaps adding a thing or two to my PCT.

    I wanted a fat burner, figured ECA stack was a little much considering BP, I do enjoy some stim though so Erase and the other one from same producer came into mind.

    Thoughts on that? ECA would be an overkill right?
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html

  19. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Still got a couple more weeks of cycle but am planning on perhaps adding a thing or two to my PCT.

    I wanted a fat burner, figured ECA stack was a little much considering BP, I do enjoy some stim though so Erase and the other one from same producer came into mind.

    Thoughts on that? ECA would be an overkill right?
    I dunno man... in PCT I think carrying on with maintenance at least for calories is going to do you a world of good. Derma + Androhard isn't very suppressive but I'd wait till after PCT to continue with the shredding
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  20. Ok, needing advice on something...

    I am travelling, for work, in the near future, and will be out not for long but will be out for about 4 days in one trip and only overnight on another.

    I am travelling with a couple of other people and my main goal was to not check my bag, but I am guessing I will not be allowed in the plane with Dermacrine and Androhard in my carry on.

    Will I really have to check a bag? It's gonna hurt to have to pay the $100 bucks... Besides forcing everyone to wait for my bag claim with me. I'm guessing I can get away on the overnight by just taking it early in the morning a double dose and then the next evening the same double dose (besides it would look ridiculous I think to check a bag for a one day trip...) but I don't think I can get away with the 4 day one.

    Thoughts?
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html

  21. ouch man, i can't really help ya but there has been a lot of discussion about traveling with supps in this tread: Supplements on a Plane?

  22. Yeah, FML, I think I'm going to be forced to bring a suitcase, for a one day trip, it sucks majorly...

    I may, on the one day trip, only take a double dose on the morning and then another the next afternoon. Perhaps put it on a little shampoo bottle container or something like that so that it is plane size allowed.
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html

  23. Overnight it to the hotel you are staying at, and vise versa. Not sure if that would be cost prohibitive (I rarely ship things)> If not, try pre measured smaller containers.
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  24. Another workout today and the improvements seem to keep going on well.

    Last time:
    Barbell Curls: 20lb, 14 reps
    Hammer Curls: 35lbs, 16 Reps total
    Leg Press Machine: 270lbs, 14 reps. For widowmaker set I went with 250, also was able to get to 25 so I am going to have to review this one.
    Standing Leg Curl: 40lbs, 22 reps.
    Calf Press on Legpress Machine: 230lbs, 10 reps

    This time:
    Barbell Curl: I actually managed to up the weight, 50lbs this time around, 15 reps. Didn't think I was going to be able to last go around, but hey, upped weight and reps.

    Hammer Curls: 40lbs, 17 reps.

    Leg Press: 330lbs, 15 reps. So, I upped the weights by 60lbs and managed to do one more rep... Something wrong there. Will go up more next time. Widowmaker I got 300lbs and went to 25. Needless to say, tired after that.

    Standing Leg Curl: 40lbs, 15 reps.

    Calf on the leg press: 270lbs, 10 reps. I absolutely hate these calve exercises, wow... They hurt like a mofo. But what you gonna do! Gotta get big son!

    Anyways, again I was very much so pleased with the workout, even on the exercises I thought I had a good weight going I still upped both weight AND reps, so it's def going pretty damn well if you ask me.

    Still don't know what to do about traveling, I may buy some sort of mouthwash container and stack it in there on the small plane safe container.
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html

  25. So I upped the weight be 60 lbs... wait wut lol nice man! glad this is working out so well for you
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    This.

    In only 3 years, I've already noticed a huge change in my recovery time from when I was training 25-30 hours a week for MMA to now. I attempt to do maybe 15 hours a week and I'm shot within a month.
    Rodja, not to get off topic, but is Randy Cotoure really Natural?
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    So I upped the weight be 60 lbs... wait wut lol nice man! glad this is working out so well for you
    I know right? Talk about a great shocker... Granted, it was the "first time" I did leg press on the machine for quite a while and it was my first series doing the DC training on that, but as I was doing it the first time around I felt it was "light", went all the way to 14 instead of the desired 10, so I figured, hell, I'll add about 15% - 20% more weight and that should drop me right around 10. My mistake I guess!

    I'm gunning to get at least 380lbs out of my next run and get to 10, that I'm sure will make my widowmaker quite a bizatch.
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html

  28. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    I know right? Talk about a great shocker... Granted, it was the "first time" I did leg press on the machine for quite a while and it was my first series doing the DC training on that, but as I was doing it the first time around I felt it was "light", went all the way to 14 instead of the desired 10, so I figured, hell, I'll add about 15% - 20% more weight and that should drop me right around 10. My mistake I guess!

    I'm gunning to get at least 380lbs out of my next run and get to 10, that I'm sure will make my widowmaker quite a bizatch.
    Love the go kill it attitude.
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  29. Today I just went for some cardio and relaxation.

    40 minutes of eliptical, 20 minutes of swimming, just a nice little cardio day.

    Probably gonna up the cardio more this week, want to shed some extra lbs.

    Going to be interesting with the whole travel thing, really hope I am not stopped due to a scope little bottle, filled with Androhard. So I will let know how that works out for me!
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html

  30. After boosting up my dosage of androhard I have noticed a little decrease in sleep quality... I feel like I don't get as much rest, that I wake up a lot more often during the night...

    Also, I have been feeling a little nauseated sometimes, I feel like my throat is full often, kinda weird feeling.

    Anyone else has ever experienced anything like this?
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html
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