First Log! Androhard + Dermacrine

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Starting to get a hang on this DC stuff... Once I run all the 3 different sets for the first time I will be able to develop a lot better but I have been feeling it pretty well.
    Are you doing the stretches like Dante recommends?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by bikeswimlive View Post
    Are you doing the stretches like Dante recommends?
    Painfully, yes.

    At least 45 seconds for each body part, usually when I can no longer hold a grip and am forced to let go.

    I will order myself some Cissus and whatnot, realized that there could be some joint pain just thought I could counter it with some more, guess I'll spend more time stretching / using my chiatsu massager.
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  3. in for the win

  4. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Painfully, yes.

    At least 45 seconds for each body part, usually when I can no longer hold a grip and am forced to let go.

    I will order myself some Cissus and whatnot, realized that there could be some joint pain just thought I could counter it with some more, guess I'll spend more time stretching / using my chiatsu massager.
    I may have to grab some cissus as well.

  5. I got my blood work back;

    Results were great pre everything. Got my readings back on Testosterone too, I may run another work at either the end of PCT or end of the cycle to see where i'm at. Numbers were pretty good, I was happy with it, free test was up there, test number was on the upper range so it made me happy.

    Got my measurements on arms, chest, stomach, legs, will do a before / after on those once everything is said and done and compare. Got my BF% as well so will make sure to add those.

    I have been pretty happy utilizing an android app for my phone, it has made REALLY easy to keep up with the DC training, called JEFIT, I highly recommend for anyone who's got an android phone. Able to set 1A, 1B, 1C and 2A, 2B, 2C with every workout in it and also record my last set as well as personal bests and all. I have been extremelly pleased with this and have been able to keep a very close log book without having to cary a book around, plus, I can record dates I did each and so get the most out of it.

    Anyways, I'm done with advertising that app as I don't get a dime from it, but I was pretty impressed, I know DC is hard to keep track of what to do on what day so this has helped my disorganized ass to keep very close track of everything including weights and reps done.

    Doing some light cardio tonight, eliptical and swimming for 1 hour total.
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  6. Awesome will be interesting to see the blood work...


  7. The Hormonal results:

    Testosterone, Total: 656 (175 - 781)
    Sex Hormone: 37.9 (13.3 - 89.5)
    Free Androgen Index: 60.1 (24.3 - 110.2)
    Calc Free Testo: 13.3 (3.2 - 19.0)
    Calc Bioav Testo: 313 (80 - 446)

    Will run again at the end and hopefully be somewhat back to these bad boys.

  8. reps for blood work.

    I'd be very interested in seeing bloods at the end of the cycle before PCT to see how much suppression you really experienced with this cycle consisting of basically DHEA and DHT. I guess this would also tell you how far you need to take your PCT depending on the level of hormone suppression.

  9. Damn, today I forgot to take my Androhard in the morning... Just took my 6PM dose just now but I guess today I will be left with only one dose.

    Out to workout now and we'll see how it goes.

    For future notice, if I do miss out a dose, should I just go for one dose that day or maybe cram the two in a smaller time frame or perhaps just double down on the second?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Damn, today I forgot to take my Androhard in the morning... Just took my 6PM dose just now but I guess today I will be left with only one dose.

    Out to workout now and we'll see how it goes.

    For future notice, if I do miss out a dose, should I just go for one dose that day or maybe cram the two in a smaller time frame or perhaps just double down on the second?
    I personally "would double down"


  11. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    I personally "would double down"
    Yeah with AndroHard I would double down.
    Just inject.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Damn, today I forgot to take my Androhard in the morning... Just took my 6PM dose just now but I guess today I will be left with only one dose.

    Out to workout now and we'll see how it goes.

    For future notice, if I do miss out a dose, should I just go for one dose that day or maybe cram the two in a smaller time frame or perhaps just double down on the second?
    That sucks and I hate it when I miss a dose ( of whatever ) especially something hormonal. Remember when we would see all the bodybuilders wearing a fanny pack? I think I just might bring the fanny pack back into style. Full of Androseries goodness.
    Primordial Performance
    ( at heart )

  13. I have been enjoying the stack, it has brought some fullness to my body and I see my muscles popping out a lot more now, especially after training. Not so much vascularity though, I guess that could very much be because I still have a decent amount of blubber on top of everything as I'm sitting at 15% BF right now, as of yesterday.

    I really want to get that number do the low 10's, wanted at least a 4pack showing. In the single digits would be heaven but I'm not prone to do that on my mid section. Cleaning up my junk closet yesterday, though, I found myself a full, unopen bottle of Dermacrine. It was like Christmas. I'm gonna toss that in as I run PCT to hopefully help lean out a little bit more, also found my stash of ECY stack that I was going to run late last year and didn't due to my scare for higher BP, which is a completely different subject and will be evaluated later on as I don't see it being good for me to pop some ECY right after I'm done with my first hormonal cycle.

    Anyways, WORKOUT! DC B2, for my second set on Bi-Legs.

    Barbell Curls: Put on 20lb on each side of the Barbell bar (which if not mistaken was 44lbs) but I will keep at 40lb just for good measurement. 14 reps overall, def good weight there, the last set my 3rd repetition was cut short in the middle as not even cheating I was able to get it all the way up.

    Hammer Curls: 35lbs on each hand, 16 Reps total

    Leg Press Machine: 270lbs overall, 14 reps. Really need to increase weight on this next time. For widowmaker set I went with 250, also was able to get to 25 so I am going to have to review this one.

    Standing Leg Curl: 40lbs, 22 reps. Increase necessary next time around

    Calf Press on Legpress Machine: 230lbs, 10 reps with the slow negative and the full stretch. Hurt like a MOFO.

    I'm excited to be starting my second run on DC as I'll know what to put on the weights this turn around, almost makes me feel like I should have started DC a couple of weeks before going into this but hey, can't go back in time now so I'm gonna have to make the most of it.

    That's it for right now folks, more workout tonight with my Chest-Back, going to jump some rope, swim for a little and then it's hot tub time and get ready for a relaxing weekend with the GF, will post libido updates later.

  14. Reps for posting bloods. Nice levels too! How old are you?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Reps for posting bloods. Nice levels too! How old are you?
    26 now.

    So sure as sh!t am happy with those levels. I guess all the animal fat I've been taking in has helped a bit on that with the Keto diet.

  16. I would advise against the dermacrine in PCT, unless you meant dermatherm...
    Just inject.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I would advise against the dermacrine in PCT, unless you meant dermatherm...
    Agreed. I was assuming he did mean dermatherm.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Agreed. I was assuming he did mean dermatherm.
    So many dermas...

    Yes, dermatherm! The topical fat loss one.

  19. On a side note;

    I know it has been mentioned a few times to run AndroHard as directed on the bottle; should I ever even consider upping the dosages? I just ask this due to my size as it usually take some bigger doses. I guess right now I'm not all that bigger as I used to be at 245 and now am only at 230.

    I ask because I got 2 bottles of Androhard, am running for 6 weeks and will inevitably end up with some spare on the second bottle once it's all said and done. I am completely clueless on this aspect so figured wouldn't hurt to ask.

  20. Another workout in.

    Chest-Back day, lets go with it:

    Dumbell Deadlifts: 230lbs, 10 reps; Widowmaker at 24 with 180.

    Wide-Grip Rear Pull Up: Did the regular pull ups, 9, 6, 3.

    Machine Fly: 240lbs, at 10, 6, 4

    Machine Shoulder Press: 100lbs, 8, 5, 3

    Barbell Lying Triceps Extension: 70lbs, 9, 5, 4

    I also went for a swim after as a little bit of a cardio, a little bit of relaxation. Did a few laps and was in the pool for about 20 minutes. Got out of it and could feel every muscle, A LOT, exhausted, never felt that big of a pump in my life and I swim every week. I was also the fullest I have ever felt after that swim.

    I can see some changes in my body, I've filled up pretty quickly, I have not yet, though, seen much of a leaner look, lost fat or anything like it, which was weird to me, almost feeling like I should have some Androlean with this to boost the crap out of this. I'm enjoying my seemingly gains but I wish it was leaning out more.

  21. Where's your caloric intake at? Maintenance, slight surplus, deficit?
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  22. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    On a side note;

    I know it has been mentioned a few times to run AndroHard as directed on the bottle; should I ever even consider upping the dosages? I just ask this due to my size as it usually take some bigger doses. I guess right now I'm not all that bigger as I used to be at 245 and now am only at 230.

    I ask because I got 2 bottles of Androhard, am running for 6 weeks and will inevitably end up with some spare on the second bottle once it's all said and done. I am completely clueless on this aspect so figured wouldn't hurt to ask.
    Yes, some have ran it 1000mgs+...


  23. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Yes, some have ran it 1000mgs+...
    Do you happen to have any links for that? I've searched but couldn't find anyone's input on how it turned out for them.

    I'm thinking of upping a tad bit, nothing major just a boost so I can get the most out of both bottles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Where's your caloric intake at? Maintenance, slight surplus, deficit?
    I'm going to roughly a maintenance level / 100 - 250 calories below on a Keto diet. Following the diet to the tee and then having a refeed on the Saturday usually, keeping it under maintenance but with a lot of whole grains.

    So I was hoping to basically exchange fat lbs for muscle lbs as I am still doing cardio about 3x a week (20 minutes of stairmaster or eliptical), jumping rope for about 20 - 30 minutes 2x a week and swimming about 2x a week as well for 20 - 30 minutes.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Do you happen to have any links for that? I've searched but couldn't find anyone's input on how it turned out for them.

    I'm thinking of upping a tad bit, nothing major just a boost so I can get the most out of both bottles.



    I'm going to roughly a maintenance level / 100 - 250 calories below on a Keto diet. Following the diet to the tee and then having a refeed on the Saturday usually, keeping it under maintenance but with a lot of whole grains.

    So I was hoping to basically exchange fat lbs for muscle lbs as I am still doing cardio about 3x a week (20 minutes of stairmaster or eliptical), jumping rope for about 20 - 30 minutes 2x a week and swimming about 2x a week as well for 20 - 30 minutes.
    I'll try and dig some up for you.


  25. Is that a completely new cardio routine or have you at least been doing part of it for some time now? That would be a ton to add in and might be too much on the body with the low level or carbs you're using.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys

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