First Log! Androhard + Dermacrine
02-28-2011 11:03 AM
bla55, how you digging this stack? Im looking at running the same stack, but not sure about pct. I want to have a serm on hand before i get involved with this stack. could you refer me a site where i could get a serm?
Last edited by Titan17; 02-28-2011 at 11:06 AM.
Reason: clarify my statement
02-28-2011 03:04 PM
Can't post any sites where you can buy SERMs it is against board rules. That said this cycle is exactly what our Testosterone Recovery Stack was designed for.
02-28-2011 09:39 PM
Thanks for the site! Will check it all tomorrow and do some reading since I don't have a workout for tomorrow, just some cardio in my schedule.
Day #2 of my DC workout. Chest, Back, Back, Tri, Shoulders.
I had to switch it around my Triceps workout because when it came up to my Triceps I could not put my arms up anymore
Widegrip Pulldown: 130lbs, 10, 5, 3. This weight was a decent one.
T-Bar Row: 150lbs, 10, 5, 3.
Dumbbell Bench Press: 70lb each arm, 11, 6, 4. Will have to up those weights next run.
Machine Lateral Raise: 100lbs, 11, 7, 5. Am going to the free weights next time as this was the max for the machine.
Cable Triceps Pushdown: 150lbs, 9, 6, 3.
Starting to get a hang on this DC stuff... Once I run all the 3 different sets for the first time I will be able to develop a lot better but I have been feeling it pretty well.
I am on day 4 of Androhard and Dermacrine and I know a lot of it is psychological but I've been feeling great at the gym. Libido has been amazing too, went to town 7 times over the weekend, preeeeetty damn happy about that and so was the girlfriend.
Only complaint so far, joints... **** do they hurt. Any thoughts? I take about 10g of Omega 3-6-9 a day and some Osteo Flex or Joint MD whatever that one is. I've been thinking about maybe getting some Cissus because it will be annoying if my joints are hurting like this. Wrist has been bad, shoulder and back ditto. Thoughts anyone?
02-28-2011 09:47 PM
Ya add in some Cissus, however this is an issue you may have to deal with on cycle. You may want to look into celadrin as well if you can find it.
02-28-2011 10:10 PM
Running with the Big Boys
03-01-2011 08:30 AM
Are you doing the stretches like Dante recommends?
Originally Posted by bla55
03-01-2011 12:04 PM
Originally Posted by bikeswimlive
At least 45 seconds for each body part, usually when I can no longer hold a grip and am forced to let go.
I will order myself some Cissus and whatnot, realized that there could be some joint pain just thought I could counter it with some more, guess I'll spend more time stretching / using my chiatsu massager.
03-01-2011 12:07 PM
03-01-2011 12:56 PM
I may have to grab some cissus as well.
Originally Posted by bla55
03-01-2011 02:47 PM
I got my blood work back;
Results were great pre everything. Got my readings back on Testosterone too, I may run another work at either the end of PCT or end of the cycle to see where i'm at. Numbers were pretty good, I was happy with it, free test was up there, test number was on the upper range so it made me happy.
Got my measurements on arms, chest, stomach, legs, will do a before / after on those once everything is said and done and compare. Got my BF% as well so will make sure to add those.
I have been pretty happy utilizing an android app for my phone, it has made REALLY easy to keep up with the DC training, called JEFIT, I highly recommend for anyone who's got an android phone. Able to set 1A, 1B, 1C and 2A, 2B, 2C with every workout in it and also record my last set as well as personal bests and all. I have been extremelly pleased with this and have been able to keep a very close log book without having to cary a book around, plus, I can record dates I did each and so get the most out of it.
Anyways, I'm done with advertising that app as I don't get a dime from it, but I was pretty impressed, I know DC is hard to keep track of what to do on what day so this has helped my disorganized ass to keep very close track of everything including weights and reps done.
Doing some light cardio tonight, eliptical and swimming for 1 hour total.
03-01-2011 09:05 PM
Awesome will be interesting to see the blood work...
03-01-2011 09:09 PM
The Hormonal results:
Testosterone, Total: 656 (175 - 781)
Sex Hormone: 37.9 (13.3 - 89.5)
Free Androgen Index: 60.1 (24.3 - 110.2)
Calc Free Testo: 13.3 (3.2 - 19.0)
Calc Bioav Testo: 313 (80 - 446)
Will run again at the end and hopefully be somewhat back to these bad boys.
03-01-2011 10:17 PM
reps for blood work.
I'd be very interested in seeing bloods at the end of the cycle before PCT to see how much suppression you really experienced with this cycle consisting of basically DHEA and DHT. I guess this would also tell you how far you need to take your PCT depending on the level of hormone suppression.
03-02-2011 07:30 PM
Damn, today I forgot to take my Androhard in the morning... Just took my 6PM dose just now but I guess today I will be left with only one dose.
Out to workout now and we'll see how it goes.
For future notice, if I do miss out a dose, should I just go for one dose that day or maybe cram the two in a smaller time frame or perhaps just double down on the second?
03-02-2011 09:10 PM
I personally "would double down"
Originally Posted by bla55
03-04-2011 02:32 AM
Primordial Performance Rep
Yeah with AndroHard I would double down.
Originally Posted by ryansm
03-04-2011 03:11 AM
That sucks and I hate it when I miss a dose ( of whatever ) especially something hormonal. Remember when we would see all the bodybuilders wearing a fanny pack? I think I just might bring the fanny pack back into style. Full of Androseries goodness.
Originally Posted by bla55
( at heart )
03-04-2011 09:17 AM
I have been enjoying the stack, it has brought some fullness to my body and I see my muscles popping out a lot more now, especially after training. Not so much vascularity though, I guess that could very much be because I still have a decent amount of blubber on top of everything as I'm sitting at 15% BF right now, as of yesterday.
I really want to get that number do the low 10's, wanted at least a 4pack showing. In the single digits would be heaven but I'm not prone to do that on my mid section. Cleaning up my junk closet yesterday, though, I found myself a full, unopen bottle of Dermacrine. It was like Christmas. I'm gonna toss that in as I run PCT to hopefully help lean out a little bit more, also found my stash of ECY stack that I was going to run late last year and didn't due to my scare for higher BP, which is a completely different subject and will be evaluated later on as I don't see it being good for me to pop some ECY right after I'm done with my first hormonal cycle.
Anyways, WORKOUT! DC B2, for my second set on Bi-Legs.
Barbell Curls: Put on 20lb on each side of the Barbell bar (which if not mistaken was 44lbs) but I will keep at 40lb just for good measurement. 14 reps overall, def good weight there, the last set my 3rd repetition was cut short in the middle as not even cheating I was able to get it all the way up.
Hammer Curls: 35lbs on each hand, 16 Reps total
Leg Press Machine: 270lbs overall, 14 reps. Really need to increase weight on this next time. For widowmaker set I went with 250, also was able to get to 25 so I am going to have to review this one.
Standing Leg Curl: 40lbs, 22 reps. Increase necessary next time around
Calf Press on Legpress Machine: 230lbs, 10 reps with the slow negative and the full stretch. Hurt like a MOFO.
I'm excited to be starting my second run on DC as I'll know what to put on the weights this turn around, almost makes me feel like I should have started DC a couple of weeks before going into this but hey, can't go back in time now so I'm gonna have to make the most of it.
That's it for right now folks, more workout tonight with my Chest-Back, going to jump some rope, swim for a little and then it's hot tub time and get ready for a relaxing weekend with the GF, will post libido updates later.
03-04-2011 09:22 AM
Reps for posting bloods. Nice levels too! How old are you?
03-04-2011 09:34 AM
Originally Posted by Rahl
So sure as sh!t am happy with those levels. I guess all the animal fat I've been taking in has helped a bit on that with the Keto diet.
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