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  1. Great stuff GH! How was the response to the new you at the pool party?
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Great stuff GH! How was the response to the new you at the pool party?

    Nothing epic but i realized the girls their were slick....they were copping feels and trying for me not to realize....it may have worked if i didnt do the same thing haha!

    I expect the reactions to be a lot more epic once im looking a lot more lean. Im Still kinda smooth but i look a lot more muscular. My friend on saturday put it best....

    "Andy your the only man that no matter how big i get i still feel small next to you...and i dont understand how you say you're natural but are BIGGER and LEANER from when i lost saw you....what the F*CK are you on??"

    I smiled and then proceeded to tell him everything I was taking. He is putting in an order today.
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  3. Good stuff GH, I am liking TestoPro solo right now. All of my strength remains even though I am at or below maintenance, continue to lean out even though my diet is not perfect and my test levels are remaining high after months of other test boosters. TestoPro is the real deal and I am sure it will work amazing with Stoked being young like we are. For me, going to finish up my TestoPro, take a break for a month from everything then come back at it for a late summer push .

  4. Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    Nothing epic but i realized the girls their were slick....they were copping feels and trying for me not to realize....it may have worked if i didnt do the same thing haha!

    I expect the reactions to be a lot more epic once im looking a lot more lean. Im Still kinda smooth but i look a lot more muscular. My friend on saturday put it best....

    "Andy your the only man that no matter how big i get i still feel small next to you...and i dont understand how you say you're natural but are BIGGER and LEANER from when i lost saw you....what the F*CK are you on??"

    I smiled and then proceeded to tell him everything I was taking. He is putting in an order today.
    I would say that was relatively epic. Going from not feeling comfortable with your shirt off to having girls being flirty and a lil touchy feely then having your Bro tell you you look bigger and leaner and asking what you are on...

    Sounds pretty epic to me...
    I am just guessing here but would it require what Winged Angels playing the harp while singing about your abs to be considered epic?

    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Good stuff GH, I am liking TestoPro solo right now. All of my strength remains even though I am at or below maintenance, continue to lean out even though my diet is not perfect and my test levels are remaining high after months of other test boosters. TestoPro is the real deal and I am sure it will work amazing with Stoked being young like we are. For me, going to finish up my TestoPro, take a break for a month from everything then come back at it for a late summer push .
    Amen, I love me some Testopro! Don't order those things without me Bro! I still want in on that.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I would say that was relatively epic. Going from not feeling comfortable with your shirt off to having girls being flirty and a lil touchy feely then having your Bro tell you you look bigger and leaner and asking what you are on...

    Sounds pretty epic to me...
    I am just guessing here but would it require what Winged Angels playing the harp while singing about your abs to be considered epic?



    Amen, I love me some Testopro! Don't order those things without me Bro! I still want in on that.


    Haha yeah pretty much...i should take off my shirt and their first reaction should be to put band-aids on my abs LOL

    I can see why you loved the SWOLE stack so much! I gotta personally save up some money before i through in another order. Gotta hit up some why first and Im saving up so i can order some whey from trunutrition. Wanna order their Isolate for after training and trutein for morning and meal replacement.
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  6. Anyone know if spreading out Alpha T-2 to 3 servings of 1 pill is acceptable?

    Im thinking one in the morning...one pre-lift/afternoon....and one before bed with DCP/BCAA's/Glycobol.


    Dont have whey so after working out ill chug 2 scoops of RecoverPRo then I'll eating 2 cans of tuna with italian dressing (1 good seasoning packet mixed with EVOO and vinegar). Ill take my afternoon dose of TestoPro and Stoked at this time.

    Ill wait 2-3 hours and then Ill have chicken (drumstick and thigh) with fruits and yogurts. GLycobol will be taken before hand.

    Ive also bought some potassium gluconate at Walmart (3 bucks) to help prevent any cramping.


    Todays total food intake will look as follows:

    Breakfast: Tuna

    Lunch: Chicken drumsticks

    Post Lift: Tuna, BCAA's

    Dinner: Chicken, yogurt, fruit

    Before bed: BCAA's

    Protein: 268
    Fat: 69
    Carbs: 46

    Tomorrow Ill drop my fat a little lower. Then on wednesday Ill spike it up to around 100g.

    Just brought some brocoli so tomorrow Ill add some veggies into breakfast or lunch. Thinking of getting some benefiber to ensure im getting my daily allowance of fiber. I try to eat at least 2-3 servings of fruit a day. Same with veggies.
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  7. Great work GH!!!
    Ask me for samples of the new RecoverPRO and Maniac. 3Z is coming July 1st Facebook for more info and maybe a great deal on it coming.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    Great work GH!!!
    Why thank you! Lets see how my workout goes...gonna start in a bit once my dad gets home so he can spot me for bench

    This is my 4th week so things are going to start really going into overdrive. Then next 5 week swill be brutal.
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  9. Todays lift:

    Bench:
    135x10
    185x8
    225x5
    275x3
    325x2
    325x4
    335x1
    365x1
    315x6
    315x5

    Bent Over Row
    135x5
    185x5
    225x5
    275x3
    275x3
    275x1
    135x10

    Hack Squat on smith machine: (no pulleys and bar weighs 55lbs)
    105x8
    155x8
    205x4
    205x5
    155x6
    105x8

    Seated Dumbell Military Press:
    30x10
    65x12
    65x6
    65x3

    Hammer Curls
    45x8
    45x8
    45x4
    20x10
    20x6

    OverHead tricep extensions:

    45x10
    95x5
    135x4
    155x1


    Abs


    Called it a day. Felt like my endurance is getting better. Still feeling like im not losing any strength despite the caloric deficit. Bench I did with no spot so i put the spot bars so they were slightly under my chest when I arched. So when i brought it down and the bar sank into my chest, it would touch the spot bars so if i failed...i wouldnt be crushed.

    Weight is 188.8 after lifting
    DISCLAIMER: Anything that I post on this forum should not be taken as medical advice. Consult your doctor before starting new diets, supplements, training protocols, and/or if you have any concerns about your health.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    Todays lift:

    Bench:
    135x10
    185x8
    225x5
    275x3
    325x2
    325x4
    335x1
    365x1
    315x6
    315x5

    Bent Over Row
    135x5
    185x5
    225x5
    275x3
    275x3
    275x1
    135x10

    Hack Squat on smith machine: (no pulleys and bar weighs 55lbs)
    105x8
    155x8
    205x4
    205x5
    155x6
    105x8

    Seated Dumbell Military Press:
    30x10
    65x12
    65x6
    65x3

    Hammer Curls
    45x8
    45x8
    45x4
    20x10
    20x6

    OverHead tricep extensions:

    45x10
    95x5
    135x4
    155x1


    Abs


    Called it a day. Felt like my endurance is getting better. Still feeling like im not losing any strength despite the caloric deficit. Bench I did with no spot so i put the spot bars so they were slightly under my chest when I arched. So when i brought it down and the bar sank into my chest, it would touch the spot bars so if i failed...i wouldnt be crushed.

    Weight is 188.8 after lifting
    Said this many times over the last year but I remember when every time I went on a diet I lost significant strength especially on compound lifts. I can't remember the lost time this happened as I have taken strength maintenance for granted on herbal supplementation.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  11. Good stuff GH and yeah I am thinking of the trutien blend. I am not going to mess with a separate isolate though. I just don't see the reason unless not using BCAA's or EAA's they will get into the system faster than Isolate will for that immediate kick, and then the trutein will keep nitrogen up so I am not going to get an isolate for quick delivery.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  12. Very nice GH!!!
    Ask me for samples of the new RecoverPRO and Maniac. 3Z is coming July 1st Facebook for more info and maybe a great deal on it coming.
    http://twitter.com/#!/TeamAISports
    http://www.facebook.com/AISportsNutrition

  13. great numbers GH!!! man you are getting strong!!!
    Working on living

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    great numbers GH!!! man you are getting strong!!!
    Not quite...i see right now more of a maintenance of my current strength level and adding muscular endurance. So instead of getting stronger...i feel that I can take that maximal effort and last longer. GREAT for martial arts.


    On a separate note....based on how 365 felt....i can see myself surpassing 405 by the end of this year. Im going to continue the pyramid style workout for the next few weeks since its pushing my muscles harder then just staying at 1 weight for 5 sets. And I think next week I wont hit flat bench at all and see if a small break from that lift will allow me to push harder the following week. Thinking of Incline, Dumbells, close grip will be the focus of next week.

    Squats and Deadlift will also be slightly altered so I can start really gearing my body to push some Man-Weight. I will start working with 600lbs more regulary so that by the end of the year i can pull 600lbs. Squat....im thinking anywhere between 645-735. But again this I only feel i can do this b/c the next time I hit the SWOLE stack...i wont be in caloric deficit and I still got 5 weeks left....I see me establishing a good foundation to build on.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Good stuff GH and yeah I am thinking of the trutien blend. I am not going to mess with a separate isolate though. I just don't see the reason unless not using BCAA's or EAA's they will get into the system faster than Isolate will for that immediate kick, and then the trutein will keep nitrogen up so I am not going to get an isolate for quick delivery.
    Gaspari's Intra looks interesting... think they're bringing up their game a bit.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  16. Here is my issue with that option....gaspari's intra is 55 bucks a pop for something that is 68% protein per scoop. Trunutritions isolate is a whopping 90% protein per scoop and contains 6.8 grams of BCAA's and just under 5 grams of glutamine precursors. And on top of that 6lbs is 45 bucks which gives me 91 servings.

    It seems especially if i use only post workout, that option will last me longer then most EAA powders and also probably taste better to boot. The only thing that competes is Nutraplanets EAA powder which is 13 bucks for 500 grams.


    I was thinking hitting up 2 scoops of Isolate, 5-10 grams of glutamine and 1 scoop of Essentials+joint as my new Post lift staple. I could sip on RecoverPro throughout workout and immediately after.

    If trutein would be used similarly save i would add some oats and fruits to the mix.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    Here is my issue with that option....gaspari's intra is 55 bucks a pop for something that is 68% protein per scoop. Trunutritions isolate is a whopping 90% protein per scoop and contains 6.8 grams of BCAA's and just under 5 grams of glutamine precursors. And on top of that 6lbs is 45 bucks which gives me 91 servings.

    It seems especially if i use only post workout, that option will last me longer then most EAA powders and also probably taste better to boot. The only thing that competes is Nutraplanets EAA powder which is 13 bucks for 500 grams.


    I was thinking hitting up 2 scoops of Isolate, 5-10 grams of glutamine and 1 scoop of Essentials+joint as my new Post lift staple. I could sip on RecoverPro throughout workout and immediately after.

    If trutein would be used similarly save i would add some oats and fruits to the mix.
    Pretty difficult for a flavoured protein to be 90% per scoop... but 68% definitely is not high..

    Yah by my calculation Trutein is 73% protein..
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  18. Nutrapro is 77% when you calculate it, it says 79% but 22 grams/ 28.4 grams is 77.4% If were taking percentages it's the better deal at 29.95 but the blend is all wheys. If you want casein and egg in it then Myofusion and Trutein are the better choices...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  19. trutein i have yet to calculate but their pure isolat is 27 grams in a 30 gram scoop (only for the vanilla flavor though).

    I love the taste of Myofusion and what I like most about it is that ir had more then just Whey but it does not have casein...to my knowledge. Nutrapro in my opinion is a pure Whey at its best. Has a nice mix of concentrate and isolate that bring up the percentage per scoop.

    Trutein may have the more complete profile only b/c it has the casein as well as the Whey and the egg.
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  20. do you do rotator cuff exercises with light weights a couple times a week?
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton View Post
    do you do rotator cuff exercises with light weights a couple times a week?
    everytime i hit bench or military press i make sure to warm up the ol' rotator cuff. Even if I feel a little extra tension that say Ill warm it up. Something i consider a staple within my warm up routine.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    trutein i have yet to calculate but their pure isolat is 27 grams in a 30 gram scoop (only for the vanilla flavor though).

    I love the taste of Myofusion and what I like most about it is that ir had more then just Whey but it does not have casein...to my knowledge. Nutrapro in my opinion is a pure Whey at its best. Has a nice mix of concentrate and isolate that bring up the percentage per scoop.

    Trutein may have the more complete profile only b/c it has the casein as well as the Whey and the egg.
    Oh yah Myofusion has milk protein isolate not casein..

    27 grams of isolate in a 30 gram scoop would be very difficult to do, Hydrolysate maybe as some of those are around 98% protein. Isolate is overated though and only good for postworkout. Trutein looks like that better product I agree. Problem I face is getting it shipped to Canada is expensive so the only choice I am left with is what I can pick up here. Myofusion is about the best I can do.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  23. GH, sounds like you got your game face on! I like it. I would also consider the ability to do more reps at a certain weight increased strength. If you could only do 315 5 times before and can do it 15 times now then you could probably easily do 375 5 times after a week or two of low rep training to get the CNS retrained. (I know those weren't your specific numbers just some I pulled out of my back side to make a point.) I plan on getting up there with you once I am injury free.

    Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton View Post
    do you do rotator cuff exercises with light weights a couple times a week?
    I do 2 sets of 15 external rotations with 10 lbs per hand before every workout includes my upper body, as well as 10 full arm circle/rotations both forward and back holding a 10 lb weight before I even think about starting my workout. I do all in a little giant set with some other movements through multiple ranges of motion until I feel a slight pump in my inner shoulders, IE supporting muscle of the joint, and then I start my lift.
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  24. Red face


    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    everytime i hit bench or military press i make sure to warm up the ol' rotator cuff. Even if I feel a little extra tension that say Ill warm it up. Something i consider a staple within my warm up routine.
    My thoughts exactly. . .I do feel that no matter what the exercise is. . when you start going up in weights it is important that we listen to our body's. . .The muscle may be able to take it but its all of the other moving parts that may not. . . I have found this out the hard way and taking some time off to make sure that i don't damage any of my connective tissues beyond repair!
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Oh yah Myofusion has milk protein isolate not casein..

    27 grams of isolate in a 30 gram scoop would be very difficult to do, Hydrolysate maybe as some of those are around 98% protein. Isolate is overated though and only good for postworkout. Trutein looks like that better product I agree. Problem I face is getting it shipped to Canada is expensive so the only choice I am left with is what I can pick up here. Myofusion is about the best I can do.

    I can agree with you that the ony truly effective time for Isolate is post workout, and this would be the only time I use it....as far as the shipping goes....good luck with that but go to the truscience.com website and see how shipping to canada works out.



    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    GH, sounds like you got your game face on! I like it. I would also consider the ability to do more reps at a certain weight increased strength. If you could only do 315 5 times before and can do it 15 times now then you could probably easily do 375 5 times after a week or two of low rep training to get the CNS retrained. (I know those weren't your specific numbers just some I pulled out of my back side to make a point.) I plan on getting up there with you once I am injury free.



    I do 2 sets of 15 external rotations with 10 lbs per hand before every workout includes my upper body, as well as 10 full arm circle/rotations both forward and back holding a 10 lb weight before I even think about starting my workout. I do all in a little giant set with some other movements through multiple ranges of motion until I feel a slight pump in my inner shoulders, IE supporting muscle of the joint, and then I start my lift.

    When it comes to increasing rep numbers, you are right that is one way to get stronger, but personally I notice that if i change it up and go for weight increasing weight for a period of time, then switch it up and look for rep numbers, this works best for me. For some reason if i dont touch a certain weight for awhile it takes me a a workout or two to get back into the rhythm of pushing it(like you stated where it may take a session or to to train the CNS). So this is why for maybe for 2-4 weeks ill change it up to the pyramid scheme then ill go back to try to pushing 315 for more reps for a few weeks.



    Quote Originally Posted by Aaelael View Post
    My thoughts exactly. . .I do feel that no matter what the exercise is. . when you start going up in weights it is important that we listen to our body's. . .The muscle may be able to take it but its all of the other moving parts that may not. . . I have found this out the hard way and taking some time off to make sure that i don't damage any of my connective tissues beyond repair!
    School of hard knocks is very unforgiving at time...hope you dont have any permenant damage Big A
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