When Cutting Meets Anabolic Innovation
- 06-30-2010, 12:12 AM
- 06-30-2010, 10:33 AM
27 grams of isolate in a 30 gram scoop would be very difficult to do, Hydrolysate maybe as some of those are around 98% protein. Isolate is overated though and only good for postworkout. Trutein looks like that better product I agree. Problem I face is getting it shipped to Canada is expensive so the only choice I am left with is what I can pick up here. Myofusion is about the best I can do.
06-30-2010, 11:53 AM
GH, sounds like you got your game face on! I like it. I would also consider the ability to do more reps at a certain weight increased strength. If you could only do 315 5 times before and can do it 15 times now then you could probably easily do 375 5 times after a week or two of low rep training to get the CNS retrained. (I know those weren't your specific numbers just some I pulled out of my back side to make a point.) I plan on getting up there with you once I am injury free.
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06-30-2010, 02:21 PM
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06-30-2010, 03:14 PM
I can agree with you that the ony truly effective time for Isolate is post workout, and this would be the only time I use it....as far as the shipping goes....good luck with that but go to the truscience.com website and see how shipping to canada works out.
When it comes to increasing rep numbers, you are right that is one way to get stronger, but personally I notice that if i change it up and go for weight increasing weight for a period of time, then switch it up and look for rep numbers, this works best for me. For some reason if i dont touch a certain weight for awhile it takes me a a workout or two to get back into the rhythm of pushing it(like you stated where it may take a session or to to train the CNS). So this is why for maybe for 2-4 weeks ill change it up to the pyramid scheme then ill go back to try to pushing 315 for more reps for a few weeks.
06-30-2010, 03:22 PM
So here is when i reach out to you more seasoned bodybuilders and lifters for a little advice.
My cut is going e****lently despite the scale reading the same. This doesnt bother me too much as long as i keep shredding fat. So at this point i think I have decided to extend my cut PAST my Swole stack.
This will mean i must:
A) change up the routine slightly to allow for maximal recovery to ensure continual strength gain/maintenance
B) Continue at caloric deficit
C) possibly look into other form of supplementation for fat loss
Part A I will work out when this stack draws closer to an end and will design it according to my fitness level at that time.
Part B...well thats a given ill probably continue cycling at around 2000 calories and having a day where it goes above that.
Part C is where Ill need the most help with. I would have been running Alpha T-2 and OEP for 8 weeks so I will need to end those. Lean Xtreme would have been for 4 weeks and DCP for 5 weeks.
Any suggestions on where to take my cut from there? Remember I wont be on anything that like the SWOLE stack so i have to be cautious not to get over zealous. I also will be taking a break from all herbal boosters for about 2-3 months.
06-30-2010, 03:46 PM
You could add in Prime seeing as it's non-hormonal...
All that to help preserve mass...
You've been on fat burners for 8 weeks so time to get off the stims don't think there is any other really great fat burners out there that I can think of off hand. Maybe Recreate as it's mild stim..
06-30-2010, 03:48 PM
06-30-2010, 03:52 PM
I could probably hit up a HGHpro, Stoked, RecoverPro stack and add in the Prime i have stored up. I can run that stack for 4 extra weeks to really help preserve lean mass. But i was considering saving up the HGHpro and Stoked for November so that I can run it with the Swole Stack. So i may just switch to Prime since i havent hit that up in awhile....
I was thinking dermatherm target and Recreate. But after 8 weeks of fat burners maybe it is wise just to take a complete break from all thermo's? Maybe take a 4 week break then try another fatburning stack? Needless to say I can really see me getting that desired look but I can quit before i get there.
06-30-2010, 03:56 PM
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06-30-2010, 04:46 PM
06-30-2010, 05:39 PM
you should burn down your house so you have no other choice but to go hard
sure youll be homeless but at least you'll be huge compared to other hobo's
The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.
06-30-2010, 05:45 PM
06-30-2010, 06:11 PM
I would add in ALCAR, and maybe something that suppresses cortisol like maybe running 6 grams of cissus a day with it. That will also keep your joints in check. Keep using the glycobol if you have it to take, especially pre fasted training. For your stim use bulk Chocomine. It heats you up nicely and gives a great chocolate flavor to your coffee if you put a little in it.
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06-30-2010, 06:15 PM
06-30-2010, 07:30 PM
I think i like the sound of this for the last 4 weeks:
1 bottle Dermatherm Target 39.95
Alcar(still have maye 200g)
SuperCissus(i have some bulk stored away)
Not sure if Ill still have enough glycobol...but i have some Anabolic Pump stashed away
Should I add in 1 bottle Recreate? I have a buddy who will sell me this for 30 bucks
Mind you I am paying for this stack by digging holes....EXTRA CARDIO BABY! WOOO
Then adding to that I need to buy some protein...so thats another 44.95 (trutein)
06-30-2010, 08:07 PM
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07-01-2010, 06:11 PM
Thanks again Kleen. Ill look over everything again and play with options and prices and get back to you guys so you can approve or critique my final decision.
So yesterday i walk into the gym to hit my lift and I just didnt have a lift in me. I felt drained. Im thinking its the caloric deficit that was getting to me since even after 2 scoops of ASGT i was feeling just....off. So I sat back and re-evaluated my routine and compared to to previous routines and what not.So I ate a steak (still staying around 2000 calories for the day) and re-vamped my routine.
Im thinking going heavy every single week during a cut is probably what has lead to me being really off some days. I noticed a trend in previous workouts that either i skipped or ended early and in an effort to break this trend i think i should change to one week heavy and 1 week light. The heavy week i lay off the cardio the light week and add it back in. This will allow my body to burn calories and continue cutting while adding an emphasis on recovery from pushing myself during my routines.
The light weeks I will probably lay off of my 4 big lifts and hit the muscle from more angles. Im also thinking about leaving the full body split for one reason....the more i concentrate on the every muscle...the stronger i can possible become. This also allows for the light weeks to be far less intense.
SO that being said and done...I wasnt going to let myself off the hook about missing a lift so....
Woke up at 4:30 AM chugged 2.5 scoops of ASGT and was in my gym by 5am.
Bent Over Row: superset between weights
185x8--->i was really cheating on this set
Seated V-Bar row:
Preacher curl machine:
Satisfied with not having skipped back I drank some RecoverPro and cooked breakfast. Tomorrow Ill have to hit legs.
07-01-2010, 06:23 PM
great self assessment my friend!!! Its always good to see guys figure things out before the injuries or burnout occur
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07-01-2010, 06:34 PM
07-01-2010, 09:26 PM
07-01-2010, 10:14 PM
I concur, and can't wait to see how you lay this one out. I was wondering how long you could keep machining on like that without lightening the load. I am employing a 10 and 15 rep marker on my workout. My goal is to find a weight I can hit 10 or a few more with and then work my way up to 15 with that weight. Once I hit 15 on the first work set with that weight I will move up and then work with that weight until I get to 15. I will do a deload week ever 4-6 weeks consisting of bodyweight work and or machines. Just to get a pump and blood to the muscle.
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07-01-2010, 11:37 PM
07-02-2010, 01:20 AM
Agreed with Kleen, going into week 4 GVT I am noticing I am staying sore longer o.O Bittersweet though because I am starting to grow too lol. Definitely excited to see how much my bench has increased though
07-02-2010, 04:47 AM
Listen to us experienced guys do light rotator cuff work(no more than 5 lbs) for 10-15 minutes before training shoulders.
warm up knees before heavy legs
always take time to get loose and warm up.
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07-02-2010, 11:12 AM
07-02-2010, 11:25 AM
I would cycle intensity from one scheme to the next rather than from week to week, like 4 weeks heavy then change routine to high intensity isolated. Yah compound lifting and dieting are not great bedfellows...
I feel you're more on the fence than most, I think you have be decide between bodybuilding and powerlifting and go with it. Yah can still keep a fairly lean physique and Powerlift. Kabuki is a good example. I feel this is more where you're talents lie, it would be a shame to let all that good strength go to waste...
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