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    man great lift today!!!
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    Day 16


    PR Day!!!!

    Okay, I'm beginning to be sold on these products! Strength is slowly climbing! Remember, it's not a marathon....slow and steady wins the race.

    4:30 am: 6 sprays Ghenerate, 2 Stoked, 4 Prime
    Before Leaving: 3 Natadrol, Anabolic Switch, 2 Black Cats, Animal Pak
    Intra-Workout: 3 scoops BC+EAA, 3 scoops Xtend

    Workout 1: Shoulders, Traps, Triceps

    Side Lateral Raises: 4x15
    Reverse Pec Deck: 4x15
    DB Shrugs: 4x15
    Overhead DB Extensions: 3x15, 125x22 (PR!!!! Take that, TG!!!)
    Decline Skullcrushers: 4x15
    Pushdowns: 4x15

    Arms were FRIED after this! And uber-pumped!!!
    Post-Workout: 3 scoops Postal, 1 scoop ON Whey, Anabolic Switch

    Meal: 6 eggs, large fruit salad, 2 tsp Fish Oil
    Meal: 60g Protein shake, 2 bananas, 1 packet oatmeal
    15 min before Workout: Anadraulic Pump (3 scoops)
    2 Stoked, 3 Natadrol, 2 Prime

    Workout 2: Legs, Abs
    Squats: 4x15
    Leg Extensions: 3x13-15, 1x50
    Leg Curls: 4x15
    Abs: Bicycle Crunches 4xfailure ('til they BURNED!)
    Post-Workout: 32 oz. Gatorade, 1 scoop ON Whey, 1 scoop Casein, creatine

    In about 30 min: 6 minute steaks, onions, brown rice

    1 more meal, 2 Prime, 2 Natadrol and 5 HGHUp will be taken before bed.

    My tris are still killing me! LOL!!!!
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    Only on some exercises. I'm more of a "push" guy than a "pull" guy. Also, this is the first time in QUITE SOME TIME that I've been so dedicated. Of course, I can't bench 525 for reps like your NFL friend, but I intend to bench that much by the end of the year (the most I've ever done was 500 for 2; of course, my chest hurt for three days afterward--and that was six years ago). Then again, maybe I won't; I don't know how much my shoulder can handle. But hey---at least I can LOOK LIKE I can bench that much! I just wish I hadn't been lazy in my previous years. I'd start a program, stop, not work out for a few months, the whole nine. It's amazing what continuous progress entails.
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    lol outstanding!!! man you are a beast!!!
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    Damn ex....well done!

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    You shouldn't be benching with your shoulders so I wouldn't worry about that. If you are, form is off.
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    Day 17


    Sore as hell today...I did NOT want to get up this morning, but I remembered my commitment (plus the money I spent on this stack, LOL) so I got up...

    4:30am: 6 Sprays Ghenerate, 2 Stoked, shower
    Before Leaving: 4 Prime, 3 Natadrol, 1 serving Anabolic Switch, 2 Black Cats
    15 minutes Before Training: Anadraulic Pump
    Intra-Workout: 3 scoops BC+EAA, 3 scoops Xtend
    Post-Workout: 3 scoops Postal, 1 scoop ON Casein
    Workout 1: Back/Calves
    Pulldowns to the Front: 4x10-12
    Pulldowns to the Back: 4x10-12
    DB Rows:4X10-12
    Calf Raises: 4x50
    Calf Press (with toes inwards): 4x50

    Meal: 2 cans tuna, large fruit salad, water
    Meal: turkey hoagie, salad,1 scoop ON whey in water
    Workout 2: Chest/Biceps
    Incline Bench: 4x12
    Pec Deck: 4x12
    Push-Ups (Leaning, against DB Rack): 4xfailure
    Leaning Preacher Curl: 4x12
    Concentration Curl: 4x12
    High-Cable Curls: 4x12
    Post-Workout: 32 oz. Gatorade, 1 scoop ON Whey, creatine
    Meal: 6 minute steaks, brown rice, 1% milk
    Meal: 2 scoops whey protein in water, fruit
    One more meal, 2 Prime and 5 HGHUp will be taken before bed.

    Ordered my bottle of PINK MAGIC today! Woo hoo!!!!
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    beast mode my friend!!!
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    Such a beast!
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    Day 18


    The stack is treating me well so far...I must admit, I was a bit skeptical after reading the rants of slimcharles and ekdevil, but Natadrol and Prime seem to work...of course, NOTHING will substitute for hard work (except steroids). It (the stack) is also good for confidence...I'm doing things I never would have even considered trying in the past. I'm only doing the first workout today, I'm going to rest and eat for the remainder of the day. Damn....my Flyers died last night. They had SO many chances to score in the third period! I'm still proud of them, though.

    4:20 am: 6 sprays Ghenerate, 2 Stoked!, shower
    Before leaving for gym: Anabolic Switch, 4 Prime, 3 Natadrol, 2 Black Cats
    15 minutes before workout: Anadraulic Pump, Animal Pak
    Intra-Workout: 3 scoops BC+EAA, 3 scoops Xtend
    Workout: Shoulders, Traps, Triceps
    Smith Machine Press: 4x12
    DB Shoulder Press: 4x12
    Hammer Strength Shrugs:4x12 (PR of 405 on last set)
    EZ-Bar Behind The Head Tricep Extensions: 3x12, last set 150x11 (PR!!! Had to do these standing up, but WOW!!!)
    Lying DB Tricep Extensions: 4x12
    Pushdowns: 4x10-12
    Post-Workout: 3 scoops Postal, 1 scoop ON Whey, 3 scoops Anabolic Switch
    Meal: 12 oz. grilled Chicken breast, brown rice, broccoli
    My next meal will be: 50 g protein shake in water, 2 packets oatmeal, 2 tsp fish oil, 2 Prime, 3 Natadrol
    Will have 3 more meals, 2 Natadrol, 2 Prime and 5 HGHUp before retiring tonight! Have to go FOOD SHOPPING!
    Body composition still changing, no real lethargy to speak of, strength steadily climbing, lots of stares and comments, especially after leaving gym and being UBER-PUMPED!!! People not believing me when I tell them my age and not believing I don't play pro football anymore. Been asked by three guys who own semi-pro teams to play. Uhhh....no.
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    lol do I hear more football in your future??? lol
    great lift my friend, and way to kill those EZ's!!! 150x11... BEAST MODE!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    lol do I hear more football in your future??? lol
    great lift my friend, and way to kill those EZ's!!! 150x11... BEAST MODE!!!
    Nah, no more football...from what I've heard, they play dirty in those semipro leagues. I already have a bad left knee, and it would be just my luck to come across someone hell-bent on getting a rep by taking me down once he hears about me: "Oh, you used to be on the Eagles' practice squad, huh? Well, let me hit you in the knees!" No, thanks....I intend to run and play with my grandkids (if I ever have any)...or just walk normally in my 50s and beyond.
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    lol I hear you big man!!! time for us to just lift and grow old gracefully, a lot like DW!
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    Grow old gracefully my ass! RAGE, RAGE AGAINST THE DYING OF THE LIGHT!!!!!

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    lol by graceful I meant with iron and nails with blood sweat and tear poring from our open wounds!!!
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    Day 19


    Funny story...I was running for the bus this morning....and I know the MFing driver saw me waving for him to wait. So I ran down the street at top speed. This old lady inadvertently stepped into my path at the last minute. I saw her out of the corner of my eye and spun around her at the last second like I was avoiding a defender. Mind you, I was running at FULL SPEED and was unable to stop. So it was either spin or possibly kill her. You should have seen the open mouths! I caught the bus at the next corner, and after I caught my breath, I chided him for passing me by. He apologized and marveled (along with several riders)about the spin move and my speed. The compliments and the questions about why I don't play pro sports anymore were nice. It was also a testament to you guys' advice and help with my training (thank you!) and my hard work. Anyway, on to my training and supps:
    Chest and Bicep Day (8-10 reps)
    8:30 am: 6 Sprays Ghenerate, 2 Stoked, 4 Prime
    Before leaving for gym: 4 Natadrol, 2 Black Cats, Anabolic Switch
    15 minutes before gym: Anadraulic Pump, Animal Pak
    Intra-Workout: 3 scoops BC+EAA, 3 scoops Xtend
    Bench: 4x8-10
    Decline: 4x8-10
    Cable C/O: 4x10
    Biceps Curl:4x8-10
    Alt DB Curl: 4x8-10
    Concentration Curl: 4x10
    Post-Workout: 3 scoops Postal (ordering another container next week, good stuff), 1 scoop ON Whey, Anabolic Switch

    Will be mixing up the meals for the rest of the day. Plenty of water.
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    lol I love those stories my friend!!! too bad you didn't hit the bus with the force you were running at! I thought that was where you were going with it!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    lol I love those stories my friend!!! too bad you didn't hit the bus with the force you were running at! I thought that was where you were going with it!!
    LOL, the way I was going, if I HAD hit the bus I might have knocked it over!!! LMFAO!!!
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    ^ I dont doubt it :P

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    "Green Tackle that car!" LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    lol I hear you big man!!! time for us to just lift and grow old gracefully, a lot like DW!
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    Day 22


    All right, we're changing it up a bit....according to the manual, I'm supposed to dial back the training for 3-4 weeks; sorta give my body a chance to play "catch-up," if you will. But, since the manual was written IN THE MID- 1990s when we didn't have such supplementation, I'm going to cut that to two weeks (maybe!). I will scale it back this week and see what happens.

    4:30am: 6 Sprays Ghenerate, 2 Stoked, shower
    Before leaving: 3 Natadrol, 3 Prime, 2 Black Cats, Anabolic Switch
    15 minutes prior to gym: Anadraulic Pump, Animal Pak
    Workout 1: Back/Calves
    Lat Pulldowns: 4x15
    Seated Calf Raises: 4x75
    Intra-Workout: BC+EAA/Xtend
    Post-Workout: 3 scoops Postal, 1 scoop ON Casein, Anabolic Switch
    Meal: 2 packets oatmeal, 60g protein shake in 1% milk
    Meal: chicken and ground beef stir-fry, water, 2 tsp fish oil

    Workout 2: Chest/Biceps (2 Stoked, 3 Natadrol, 3 Prime pre-workout)
    Bench: 4x15 (the most I've ever done was 315 for 15 a few years ago, and I'm coming very close to that. That was when I was doing Mike Westerdal's Critical Bench program. Me likey!)
    Concentration Curls: 4x13-15
    Intra-Workout: 6 scoops Xtend
    Post-Workout: 32 oz. Gatorade with 1 scoop ON Hydro-Whey, 5g creatine

    Will have a meal of ground beef, yam and 2 cups broccoli in about 30 min.

    Observations so far: I messed up this weekend diet-wise, because I ate any and everything I wanted. Sorry! The scale said 328 lbs, but I saw little if any fat gain. Unfortunately, my old neighborhood is having their annual Father's Day cookout next Saturday, so I'm gonna pig out again. Oh well. Anyway, I'm pleased so far with what I see and feel. Strength continues to slowly climb, and I'm leaning out ever so slightly. I'm either a responder or having a world-class placebo effect! I may kick up the Natadrol and Prime to 10 each in the next couple of weeks to see what happens. Got my Pink Magic in the mail today! Woo hoo!!!

    Question: Can the Asteroid Stack be used as part of PCT? If so, I may do that in the future. For this stack, I'm sticking with the PCT I originally planned.
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    Yeah the Asteroid Stack can be used during PCT. I would still add in something like TRez with it just to boost natural production a bit. However Asteroid stack used in PCT you will help you keep your mass.

    When you pig out this weekend just eat meat! All the meat you want but keep the carbs low. Good rule of thumb when eating too much is make it meat and no carbs unless you need / plan a carb load around it. Since you ate everything you want this weekend. Next weekend just eat Meat. Pounds of it if you want.
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    ^^^This is how I pig out as well. Had a BBQ at my house yesterday and just pounded the carne all day. Was never hungry that's for sure!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Yeah the Asteroid Stack can be used during PCT. I would still add in something like TRez with it just to boost natural production a bit. However Asteroid stack used in PCT you will help you keep your mass.

    When you pig out this weekend just eat meat! All the meat you want but keep the carbs low. Good rule of thumb when eating too much is make it meat and no carbs unless you need / plan a carb load around it. Since you ate everything you want this weekend. Next weekend just eat Meat. Pounds of it if you want.
    Thanks, Kleen. By the way, what is TRez and who makes it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    Thanks, Kleen. By the way, what is TRez and who makes it?
    TRez is Nutra's bulk Trans Resveratrol, it comes capped with bioperine which increases the bioavailibility of it. Resveratrol is a natural SERM. So it tell the body to produce testosterone. It is in STOKED! and T-911 and several other test boosting supplements.
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    Reverse was the Resveratrol product to beat when it was available. Now that it's gone the playing field is pretty level. T-911 may have a bit up on other products because it's sublingual, but that's really dose dependent.
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    ^ I have now resveratrol

    Don't think it's terribly effective solo, but I am taking it every day just cause its so cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by votum View Post
    ^ I have now resveratrol

    Don't think it's terribly effective solo, but I am taking it every day just cause its so cheap
    Yeah the extract is stronger in TRez and others. Also that one doesn't have the bioperine in it. That really helps the bio-availability. Yeah Resolve I am a fan of the sublingual stuff myself.
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    Day 23


    This dialing back the volume is taking a little getting used to. I had to laugh at myself this morning, got all the way to the gym and realized that I had forgotten my workout shirt. No way I was going to work out in my Eagles jersey, and of course they had NO shirts large enough to fit me in the Lost and Found box. So I came home, ate, rested and did a double workout at about 1pm. The difference now is, you're doing much less sets and the rest periods are longer. I think you're also supposed to not go to failure, but PHUQUE THAT!!! With this supplementation, I'm only willing to compromise so much. Definitely seeing results. Workout was as follows:
    Smith Machine Shoulder Press: 4x15
    Hammer Strength Shrug: 1x15
    Decline Lying Tricep Extensions: 4x15
    Leg Extensions: 4x15, 1x50
    Crunches (on ball): 4xfailure
    Sitting here eating and typing, I can definitely tell there's a difference because my NFL Equipment stretch shirt (just like Under Armour) is hugging my torso, and it's a 4x. Woo hoo! Gotta love that! Supps and meals are on point as well. I seem to have gone down a belt size in my jean shorts. I was wearing a size 48 (they have to be big in the waist because I have a lot of booty--no homo!), but now I have to tighten the belt to the last loophole or they just fall...and I'm definitely no fan of the "Young Urban Boy look" which entails my pants hanging off my ass. I wish my son would walk around with his pants like that. He knows I'd kill him! Do these kids and young "men" (and I use the term loosely) realize that look comes from jail and WHAT IT MEANS? All right, getting off my soapbox now...
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    lol great lift all the same my friend!
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    No shirts for 335 pound men in the lost and found box?! Haha

    I have a very hard time giving my workouts my "all" if i don't take pre-workout anymore. I guess i've just gotten so used to it. That might just make a ***** though, but it helps me take an "easy" week when i've pushed myself hard for a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    No shirts for 335 pound men in the lost and found box?! Haha

    I have a very hard time giving my workouts my "all" if i don't take pre-workout anymore. I guess i've just gotten so used to it. That might just make a ***** though, but it helps me take an "easy" week when i've pushed myself hard for a long time.
    LOL, good point. I guess I shouldn't have expected to find a shirt that fit. Also, I'm beginning to share your opinion. If I don't take my pre-workout stuff, I'm not in the same mode. Addictive, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    LOL, good point. I guess I shouldn't have expected to find a shirt that fit. Also, I'm beginning to share your opinion. If I don't take my pre-workout stuff, I'm not in the same mode. Addictive, isn't it?
    What do you need a shirt for?

    +2 on the pre-wo, I feel like I am dragging ass without it. And if I forget my zune...I will do 10 minutes of working in an hour somehow lol o.O

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    Day 25


    Sorry for not posting yesterday...haven't been getting a lot of sleep lately, so I was extremely tired...and the GF was getting on my phucking nerves. It took everything in me not to cuss her out. I can't stand a nagging b*tch.

    Anyway, let me start by saying THE BAR HAS BEEN RAISED...LITERALLY. I got 160 on the EZ-Bar behind the head triceps extensions. I used DBs for the first three sets until I got to the 125s. And, of course, I'm now paying the price because my elbows are damn near numb from trying to get that 12th rep. LOL!!! Thank God I've only got to do legs later on.

    4:15 am: 6 sprays Ghenerate, 2 Stoked, shower
    Before leaving: 3 Natadrol, 3 Prime, 2 Black Cats, Anabolic Switch
    15 minutes before Gym: Animal Pak, Anadraulic Pump
    Intra-Workout: BC+EAA, Xtend
    Workout: Shoulders, Traps, Triceps
    DB Shoulder Press: 4x12
    DB Shrugs: 1x15 (used the 125 lb. DB)
    Behind-The-Head EZ-Bar Tri Ext:3x12 (DB), 160x11!!! PR time, baby!!!
    Post-Workout: 3 scoops Postal, 1 scoop ON Casein, Anabolic Switch
    Now eating: Oatmeal, protein shake in 1% milk, 4 eggs

    Will take a short nap before eating again and heading back to the gym at 1pm. The lunchtime crowd should be cleared out by then.
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    lol that is why I wrap the elbows on that lift my friend!!!
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    I don't think anyone likes a nagger btw.

    Which just reminded me of that one south park episode, lmfao

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    Day 26


    Did both workouts in one this morning...got a few errands to run this afternoon...

    Supps taken as per usual, I'm liking the slow but steady strength gains on this stack. Definition slowly coming in as well...I keep looking in the mirror and can't remember when I've ever seen my chest this defined. Wow...GF noticing and staring, random females wanting to touch me. WTF? Well....I can't honestly say I'm displeased; I'd be LYING. However, attitude and temper I have to seriously keep in check. I mean, I'm ready to snap at a moment's notice. Sort of like giving a pyromaniac A BLOW TORCH AND GASOLINE.

    Workout: Chest, Back, Biceps, Calves
    DB Bench: 3x7, last set hit the 125s for 16...PR!!!
    Back: Lean-Back Lat Pulldowns: 4x7
    Biceps: Standing Alt DB Curl: 4x7
    Calf Press (on Leg Press Machine): 4x75

    All I can say is....WOW!

    Oh, I meant to ask this: I'm, uh, shooting more loads lately...is that a by-product of the Ghenerate, HGHUp, or Prime...or all three? Or is it the Stoked? Just curious...
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