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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    I hear ya. when your are lifting the food budget gets bigger as you get bigger.
    truth. I'm graduating from college in 6 weeks so after that hopefully my budget will open up a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    I hear ya. when your are lifting the food budget gets bigger as you get bigger.
    No kidding. I eat so much more to grow at 200ish than I did at 170. Luckily I have a girlfriend that cooks for me, so i just throw whatever money I can afford for that week at her and let her do the decision making (she'd pretty hip on the diet thing... I trust her choices) and she seems to make it work way better than I ever did when I was single. One of those luxuries I never have had since I was a kid and my mom was cooking for me... get yourself a good lady who can cook fellas. It's a godsend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    No kidding. I eat so much more to grow at 200ish than I did at 170. Luckily I have a girlfriend that cooks for me, so i just throw whatever money I can afford for that week at her and let her do the decision making (she'd pretty hip on the diet thing... I trust her choices) and she seems to make it work way better than I ever did when I was single. One of those luxuries I never have had since I was a kid and my mom was cooking for me... get yourself a good lady who can cook fellas. It's a godsend.
    My ex could burn water!
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    Another 45 min tae-bo workout. This time it was stepped up with 5 pound weights. Don't sound like much but it feels like 100 pounds at the end. Tomorrow is my weights day. Thank the iron gods.
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    Sorry to hear about the bp issue man. I haven't heard that as a side of pSARM myself. Are you taking the old pSARM or the new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by metroba View Post
    Sorry to hear about the bp issue man. I haven't heard that as a side of pSARM myself. Are you taking the old pSARM or the new?

    Also, LG Sciences needs testimonials videos for Anadraulic State GT!
    The old ones with the yohimbe
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    ahh I see
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    Yup when I bought it I didn't know that they had 2 kinds.
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    Fat Gripz


    I would like to add that FAT GRIPZ is sending me a free pair to try and to let every one know what I think. So we will get to see if they live up to the hype. I won't Bull $hit ya IF I don't like them then I will tell you so.
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    how do we get in on that action???? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    how do we get in on that action???? LOL
    It wasn't something that they where offering. I contacted them and offered to try them and let you guy know what I thought if they would send me a free pair. So they liked my offer and sent a pair out.
    So my advice to you if you see something new contact them and offer to try it out. Like I always say the best things in life a FREE.
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    LOL agreed my scaley friend!!!
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    Well I just took 4 scoops and now I'm going to go kill some weights.
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    mad man I tell you... a MAD MAN
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    4 scoop Complete upper body workout.


    Ok as you know I did 4 scoops. Got to say I liked it. I went from falling a sleep to bouncing off the walls of the gym.
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    Ok forgot what you call these but I did them dumbbell curl where you turn them over before you come back down. I'm having a brain fart.
    25-12/12/12/10/10

    1 handed rev grip push downs
    20-15/15/15/12/12

    I didn't legs since I went for a nice 3hr power walk with tuns of hills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post

    Sides:Haven't found any that I haven't enjoyed!
    hahahahahahaha that makes 2 of us my friend!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    Ok forgot what you call these but I did them dumbbell curl where you turn them over before you come back down. I'm having a brain fart.
    25-12/12/12/10/10
    Zottman Curls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    Zottman Curls.
    Ya that's it. I couldn't for the life of me remember what they where called. I think I was ASGT drunk.
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    lol, nice.
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    45 min tae-bo


    Ok I did a 45 min tae-bo this one was more advanced. Next one is the boot camp tae-bo work out. The one I did today felt like it was a 45 min shoulder killer. That ok my shoulders need it. Over all it was a great workout. I needed a mop after the work out to mop up all the sweat.
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    I found this in another thread and thought I would post it here.

    Quote Originally Posted by edwitt View Post
    Newb we live and we learn

    GRAPEFRUIT JUICE

    this just gave a whole new meaning to the grapefruit diet

    I will be adopting this protocol going forward, the studies i have read are very compelling, interested to hear from AM members personal experiences with this

    This was brought to my attention this morning by a learned member, i have been doing some research and with the help of "copy and paste" i present to you




    grapefruit inhibits the enzyme CYP3A4. This enzyme is responsible for breaking down substances through 6beta-hydroxylation. grapefruit only inhibits CYP3A4 in the small intestine. The enzyme is also found in the liver, but grapefruit does not affect it there. Less CYP3A4 in the small intestine means that a large group of substances is more easily absorbed by the body.

    Between 17 and 46 percent of these hormones leave the body in the 6beta-hydroxylated form.


    Basically, if you drink 250ml of grapefruit juice with your oral medications, it will increase their absorbtion, blood serum concentrations, etc...There was a study done specifically with some 17A drugs, but I decided not to copy it here. The article I did copy (below) is alot more reader-friendly and less technical.
    If you are too lazy to read the article, here's the summary:
    Drink 250ml of grapefruit juice (thats 8.4 ounces) with your oral steroids, and you just need to drink it once per day, even if you take your orals spread out throughout the day.
    I've seen studies where absorbtion of some drugs was increased by up to 500%! (I read this study)
    Also...before you ask about the effects of grapefruit juice on oral rec drugs the answer is YES, this applies to ALL ORAL MEDICATIONS/DRUGS infact xanax for example has a warning on the label as do many other prescription drugs

    Bottom line adopting this protocol will give you more bang for your $buck, of the 75mg of VAR a day i am ingesting more will be absorbed by the body so the effect is as of having taken a higher dose

    Here's the article:

    James Maskalyk
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    Grapefruit juice interacts with a number of medications. This unusual discovery was made serendipitously in 1989 during an experiment designed to test the effect of ethanol on a calcium-channel blocker.1 The observed response was later determined to be due to the grapefruit juice delivery vehicle rather than the alcohol. In the past decade, the list of drug interactions with grapefruit juice has expanded to include several classes of medication, precipitating a recent advisory from Health Canada.2

    The interaction: As little as 250 mL of grapefruit juice can change the metabolism of some drugs.3 This drug–food interaction occurs because of a common pathway involving a specific isoform of cytochrome P450 — CYP3A4 — present in both the liver and the intestinal wall. Studies suggest that grapefruit juice exerts its effect primarily at the level of the intestine.4

    After ingestion, a substrate contained in the grapefruit binds to the intestinal isoenzyme, impairing first-pass metabolism directly and causing a sustained decrease in CYP3A4 protein expression.5 Within 4 hours of ingestion, a reduction in the effective CYP3A4 concentration occurs, with effects lasting up to 24 hours.6 The net result is inhibition of drug metabolism in the intestine and increased oral bioavailability. Because of the prolonged response, separating the intake of the drug and the juice does not prevent interference.

    Individuals express CYP3A4 in different proportions, those with the highest intestinal concentration being most susceptible to grapefruit juice–drug interactions.5 An effect is seen with the whole fruit as well as its juice, so caution should be exercised with both.7 The precise chemical compound in grapefruit that causes the interaction has not been identified. There is no similar reaction with orange juice, although there is some suspicion that "sour oranges" such as the Seville variety, may have some effect.8 A recent study, however, that tested the known interference of grapefruit juice with cyclosporine showed no similar effect with Seville oranges.9

    There is some interest in the potential therapeutic benefit of adding grapefruit juice to a drug regimen to increase oral bioavailability.3 The limitation is the individual variation in patient response. However, if the chemical that causes grapefruit's CYP3A4 inhibition is elucidated, there may be an opportunity to modulate that pathway in a controlled fashion.

    What to do: Much of the data obtained on grapefruit juice–drug interactions involved measuring serum drug concentrations in small numbers of healthy volunteers. Because of the limited data and only occasional case reports,10 it is difficult to quantify the clinical significance for individual patients. One may assume that the interaction occurs primarily with oral medicines, and only with those that share the CYP3A4 metabolism pathway, with the consequence being increased oral bioavailability, higher serum drug concentrations and associated adverse effects.

    Physicians should review medication lists often, with the goal of warning patients about adverse interactions. A list of medicines with which patients should not consume grapefruit is provided in Table 1.3,11,12 In the case of several medications that share the CYP3A4 metabolism pathway, but for which a clinical effect has not been elucidated or is theoretical, patients should be advised to consume grapefruit cautiously and be monitored for toxicity.



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    ahhh that was a good post!!! both times
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    1 hr tae-bo boot camp


    To day I had a hell of a workout. I did a 1hr tae-bo boot camp and now every part of my body is sore. But I love it. It looked like some one dumped there water on the floor but it was only my sweat. In one part you do 8 sets of 8 push ups. You do 8 then role over to one side then do another 8 then go back the other way. The whole thing is fast pace and you use weight for most of it. It gives you a nice full body pump. I almost think I should of used 2 scoops of the ASGT. I started to run out of steam at the end. The worst part was the intense burn in the shoulders from the pump. I got to say thou the last time I tried this workout I didn't make it all the way to the end. The ASGT realy helped.
    Oh by the way my Fat Gripz didn't come in today. So much for the 1st or 2nd. I hoping they will come in tomorrow. Then I can use them to give my arms a beating tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    Oh by the way my Fat Gripz didn't come in today. So much for the 1st or 2nd. I hoping they will come in tomorrow. Then I can use them to give my arms a beating tomorrow.
    They're still complimentary though, so there's the silver lining, right?

    That workout sounds painful. They should make you mop up after yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    They're still complimentary though, so there's the silver lining, right?

    That workout sounds painful. They should make you mop up after yourself.
    True. And they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon93 View Post
    True. And they do.
    Ouch, after you're already worn the f*ck out they're gonna make you grab a mop and work those shoulders even more. Diabolical!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    Ouch, after you're already worn the f*ck out they're gonna make you grab a mop and work those shoulders even more. Diabolical!
    That's what happens when you miss a move.
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    haha
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    OK my Fat Gripz are in. First impression is good. They are solid and feel good on the bar. down side if you have cheap dumbbells like I have at home the handle is to small so you will have to rap the handle with something to make them feel tight. I might suggest to him that he ships them with a small rubber pad that can be rapped around the small grips on low cost dumbbells to make up the different. I have the cheap dumbbells with the screw on ends that they sell at walmart. They might be cheap but I had them for 15yrs and I'm still using them. Weight is weight. Some day I will upgrade. For now I will let the gym dish out the big bucks on the high cost weights.
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    curious to see how they affect the weight you use...
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    Upper body workout with FAT GRIPZ


    3 scoops of ASGT and FG aka "FAT GRIPZ"

    Wide grip bench press FG
    120-15 warm up 140-10 160-10/8 140-10/9 Killer chest pump

    Bent over rows
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    Dead lift
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    Military press FG
    80-15 warm up 100-10/10/10/10/9 Killer shoulder pump

    dumbbell curls FG
    25-15 warm up 30-12/10/10

    incline hammer curl FG
    20-12/12/11

    Decline narrow grip bench press FG
    100-15 warm up 140-8/8/7 120-10/9

    ASGT 3 scoop
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    FAT GRIPZ
    OK I got to say I love them. On the bench press it takes the stress of the shoulders and tris, and puts it all on the chest. I normally have a hard time getting a good chest pump but by the second set my chest had a intense pump. When it came to the military press it puts it all on the shoulders. The arm workouts where intense. Some of my weights where down and I couldn't do as many reps but my workout felt much more intense and the pump I had made me look twice as big.

    ASGT + FAT GRIPZ = A HELL OF A WORKOUT.
    I will work for supplements!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    I gotta get me some of these!
    You will love them. and they are made to last.
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    Some info I got off a site on fat bar training.


    There are many advantages to the fat bar:

    * Increased grip strength.Attitude. You dont half-ass anything when youre using a bar you can barely hold onto.
    * Kinetic Linkage. Possibly the most overlooked element of any strength feat is the linkage between the muscles that are used in completing a given movement. If you plan on doing anything with the fat bar, you had better be gripping it with all your might unless you want to be pinned underneath it. By gripping the bar with extreme force your muscles will experience irradiation which is a fancy way of saying your forearm, bicep, tricep, deltoid, will activate (for most people their entire body will tense up, and this is a key element to strength training. Try to make a white-knuckle grip without tightening up the rest of your arm.
    * Preventing Leakage: This could go with the previous point of irradiation, but the point is that by gripping the bar harder your body will have no break in your kinetic chain. By keeping your shoulder into its socket (packing your shoulder) during an overhead press, you prevent leakages and allow the stronger muscles to dictate the movement. Your tight grip will make this easier. Try shrugging your shoulders as high as you can before your next overhead press and you will see that your strength is nonexistent.
    I will work for supplements!
  

  
 

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