Recomping with LG's Trifecta! (NON-SPON)

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    Question. How do you guys feel about zero carb or 20cal NOS drinks or Rockstars?

    I try to use them for pep obviously and try and stick to zero carb for sure but I wasn't sure how you guys felt about them or whether I should buy some caffeine pills and just keep to water all day.
    Counting business days only the cost of 2.5 weeks of these will by you a month supply of USP Labs OEP and you won't be lacking in energy at all.

    Nothing against the drinks persay but if energy is the idea OEP is way better, and will burn that fat off you like nobody's business. Just my opinion, same goal, better solution.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Counting business days only the cost of 2.5 weeks of these will by you a month supply of USP Labs OEP and you won't be lacking in energy at all.

    Nothing against the drinks persay but if energy is the idea OEP is way better, and will burn that fat off you like nobody's business. Just my opinion, same goal, better solution.
    Wow I never thought of it that way.. Good point
  4. Day 5 Cardio


    Day 5 Cardio

    1 HR. Fluctuated 135-152BPM throughout first 40 min or so.

    Last 20 min, brought down to 120's and finished up last 5 min as cooldown.

    - Notes

    TIRED. SORE. SORE. SORE. TIRED.
    Attributing to the obvious; change in general and volume of work are factors for sure.
    Diet solid no swaying.

    Muscles are hard regardless of how I'm feeling!

    Need to rest and get ready for shoulders tomorrow.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Counting business days only the cost of 2.5 weeks of these will by you a month supply of USP Labs OEP and you won't be lacking in energy at all.

    Nothing against the drinks persay but if energy is the idea OEP is way better, and will burn that fat off you like nobody's business. Just my opinion, same goal, better solution.
    I agree. I'm throwin around the idea of adding OEP to this mix to really accelerate things.

    Here's another question. Today was just a cardio day. Normally I'd dose 50-60g of simple carbs with 50g of protein mixed with all my goodies, postworkout. With an hr of cardio I decided to lighten the carbs to 15ish and only 25g protein and skip the yellow gold. How should I approach this?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by punthra View Post
    Subbed....Sorry I got in here late.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    I agree. I'm throwin around the idea of adding OEP to this mix to really accelerate things.

    Here's another question. Today was just a cardio day. Normally I'd dose 50-60g of simple carbs with 50g of protein mixed with all my goodies, postworkout. With an hr of cardio I decided to lighten the carbs to 15ish and only 25g protein and skip the yellow gold. How should I approach this?
    No need to skip the yellow gold it isn't just there as a parachute to turn off fat stores, it is also there to shuttle the nutrients into your muscle. What this means to you is that even 15-30 grams of carbs can be shuttled into your muscle WITHOUT the insulin spike. You don't need the insulin spike with yellow gold. It activates the Glut4 uptake in your muscles whether insulin is present or not. Getting rid of the yellow gold then would be like having a sports car with an operable hood scoop and removing it just because you arent racing it. With the scoop, you still get the performance and efficiency boost of better airflow even when not racing. With yellow gold (berberine) you still get the nutrient shuttling effect when not taking in a lot of carbs.

    Also if your goal is recomp I would cut the simple carbs post workout too. If you take bcaa's or an intra drink for your workout you are ok regarding nutrients getting to your muscle quickly. Then the yellow gold will turn on your muscle stores even more you take in 50-75 grams of complex carbs. This will give you a great pump and feed your muscle without bringing on an insulin spike. Helping to mitigate any of the nutrients being stored as fat. Not to mention excess insulin is unhealthy.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Also if your goal is recomp I would cut the simple carbs post workout too. If you take bcaa's or an intra drink for your workout you are ok regarding nutrients getting to your muscle quickly. Then the yellow gold will turn on your muscle stores even more you take in 50-75 grams of complex carbs. This will give you a great pump and feed your muscle without bringing on an insulin spike. Helping to mitigate any of the nutrients being stored as fat. Not to mention excess insulin is unhealthy.
    K. I'll keep the YG in rotation regardless. I guess I'm a little confused though. I thought I only want to take YG when I eat a large amount of carbs, or does it not matter and I should incorporate it at breakfast, lunch, dinner and postworkout?

  9. Kleen is the man! great info..

  10. noice post Kleen
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    K. I'll keep the YG in rotation regardless. I guess I'm a little confused though. I thought I only want to take YG when I eat a large amount of carbs, or does it not matter and I should incorporate it at breakfast, lunch, dinner and postworkout?
    A lot of people only use berberine type of supplements to shuttle in carbs while mitigating fat storage caused by insulin by the fact it can shut off the Glut 4 uptake in the fat cells while stimulating the Glut4 uptake in your muscle cells. This makes it ideal for shuttling in large amounts of carbs at a time without allowing spillage over into fat storage. Remember insulin turns on the Glut 4 uptake in both muscle and fat.

    Here is something alot of people do not consider or know about berberine which is what made me suggest it. Berberine is not insulin dependent like a lot of insulin sensitizers or enhancers. Some great products out there require insulin to get them going, not so with berberine. So if on a basic keto diet say you wanted to have an anabolic shuttling of nutrients into your muscle while there is no insulin present IE... lack of carbs, berberine is your friend. You still get the anabolic reaction shuttling in the proteins and aminos and nitrogen that your muscle need to grow, while lowering blood sugar as well helping keep you in keto, or getting you there.

    Same premise with using it during a fasted workout, it will make your muscle scavenge for nutrients in the blood, using bcaas there are plenty and they can fuel the workout along with fat.

    You can use the berberine directly after a workout with the 50-60 grams complex carbs and then be right back to low blood sugar. This in my opinion is the one of the best ways to recomp. Lower carb higher protein and fat throughout the day and a good spike post workout on maintenance or just above if supplementing a good stack like you are. However if cutting while not losing LBM I would go with maintenance to 300 below.

    The way to stay pretty full, yet still optimally burning fat for energy for you may be to do 50-75 grams carbs after workout and only 2 other times during the day at 25g. Taking yellow gold with each carb meal. Not counting carbs like in almonds and stuff, also incorporate some blueberries and graperfruit into your meals. They both help tell your body to burn fat for energy instead of carbs. You could do 1-2 grapefruit a day and 1-1 1/2 cups blueberries spread throughout the day. That would be optimal for fat loss and muscle presevation using that product.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    K. I'll keep the YG in rotation regardless. I guess I'm a little confused though. I thought I only want to take YG when I eat a large amount of carbs, or does it not matter and I should incorporate it at breakfast, lunch, dinner and postworkout?
    As cheap as it is I would take it 3 meals a day and and after your workout. If fasted i would take it before your workout and after your workout as that will obviously be one of the 3 meals you would have it with. If going to have more than 50 grams I suggest increasing the dose a little. Also if not going to stay pretty low carb at least cut the out by 4-6:00 unless a post workout meal.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  14. you are a smart cat man..damn
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  15. Day 6 - Shoulders


    Shoulders/Chest

    Arnold Presses - 1st time doing these. Wow, Liked these.
    30 - 10, 10, 10, 10

    Nautilus Overhead Press (neutral grip)
    125 - 10
    155 - 10
    185 - 10

    Start 185, 215 next and work down.

    Side laterals One arm at a time
    25 - 10, 10, 10

    Rear Laterals
    10 - 10, 10
    15 - 10, 8-10? Attempted 20lbs, too much

    Incline Press Machine
    225 - 10, 8, 6

    Decline XOvers
    10 - 15, 15, 15

    20 min low intense cardio, 15min sauna

    Notes
    - Walking like a penguin. Legs are rediculously sore.
    - Considering how beat I felt yesterday; today I feel good. I hope
    that means tomorrow I'll be invigorated. Did drink some 'white flood' for preworkout.
    - Changed my postworkout shake to 50g complex carbs, 50g protein.
    Changing dinner to no carb, olive oil on broccoli and egg whites,
    1.5 hrs after PW shake.
    - Looking in the mirror, ashamed I let myself get this bad.

  16. Kleen, thanks for the words. You've been a great source of knowledge as well as inspiration!

    Thanks man, now I have to put it all together and make it happen.

  17. " Looking in the mirror, ashamed I let myself get this bad. "

    Use it as motivation Bro. You have been lifting so you have been building. If you want to get lean though you have to commit to it on a large scale. It is a change in lifestyle to maintain it. Not a hard one the challenge of it becomes the fun. As you learn your body you will become fascinated with how things effect it and what you can modify to make noteable changes quickly. I am actually very happy to be back in the pursuit of the shredded look. Once I get done with my show I am staying lean year round. Like 6-7% I just have to do eat Kleen.
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  18. Hey Flex any increases in weights? reps?
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    " Looking in the mirror, ashamed I let myself get this bad. "

    Use it as motivation Bro. You have been lifting so you have been building. If you want to get lean though you have to commit to it on a large scale. It is a change in lifestyle to maintain it. Not a hard one the challenge of it becomes the fun. As you learn your body you will become fascinated with how things effect it and what you can modify to make noteable changes quickly. I am actually very happy to be back in the pursuit of the shredded look. Once I get done with my show I am staying lean year round. Like 6-7% I just have to do eat Kleen.
    For sure man. I was ashamed for about 30 seconds and quickly turned it into relentless motivation. I know I have nothing to prove to anyone but myself. It means working and being consistent. It means I've 'rested' long enough.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by metroba View Post
    Hey Flex any increases in weights? reps?
    I haven't really trained shoulders much. My shoulders are like pauldrons without training them and I always did cleans to train them; so, hard to say.

    IMHO, I dont know if its fair to compare now to back then because diets were different, training was different, volume was alot different, cardio wasnt involved.

    I think this week will be a good basic foundation of me finding what I need to do to increase weight and volume for next week and the succeeding weeks. Remember also, Ive never trained a bodypart 2 times per week. This is quite different also.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    I haven't really trained shoulders much. My shoulders are like pauldrons without training them and I always did cleans to train them; so, hard to say.

    IMHO, I dont know if its fair to compare now to back then because diets were different, training was different, volume was alot different, cardio wasnt involved.

    I think this week will be a good basic foundation of me finding what I need to do to increase weight and volume for next week and the succeeding weeks. Remember also, Ive never trained a bodypart 2 times per week. This is quite different also.
    Wise reasoning there bro. Never rush into things and end up injuring yourself, like I did

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  22. Quote Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    Shoulders/Chest

    Arnold Presses - 1st time doing these. Wow, Liked these.
    30 - 10, 10, 10, 10

    Nautilus Overhead Press (neutral grip)
    125 - 10
    155 - 10
    185 - 10

    Start 185, 215 next and work down.

    Side laterals One arm at a time
    25 - 10, 10, 10

    Rear Laterals
    10 - 10, 10
    15 - 10, 8-10? Attempted 20lbs, too much

    Incline Press Machine
    225 - 10, 8, 6

    Decline XOvers
    10 - 15, 15, 15

    20 min low intense cardio, 15min sauna

    Notes
    - Walking like a penguin. Legs are rediculously sore.
    - Considering how beat I felt yesterday; today I feel good. I hope
    that means tomorrow I'll be invigorated. Did drink some 'white flood' for preworkout.
    - Changed my postworkout shake to 50g complex carbs, 50g protein.
    Changing dinner to no carb, olive oil on broccoli and egg whites,
    1.5 hrs after PW shake.
    - Looking in the mirror, ashamed I let myself get this bad.

    Bro!?!? Like Kleen says, use what you're feeling as motivation, dedication, and discipline!!!!!!!!!!! All things are possible!!!!!!If you want this, results will come. Only be ashamed, if you do nothing. Best of luck, you can do this!!

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  23. you could always watch this for motivation [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY0CezOWFGs"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/nomedia]
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by metroba View Post
    you could always watch this for motivation YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.
    WTF?!? LOL

  25. PANTS ON THE GROUND! PANTS ON THE GROUND! LOOKIN LIKE A FOOL WITH YOUR PANTS ON THE GROUND!!

    LMAO good vid.. great motivation
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  26. keep killin it flex, that mirror will change. we are all behind you brotherin!
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  27. Day 6 - Arms/Back


    Arms/Back

    Standing Ez Curls
    90 - 10, 10, 8

    Hammers
    35 - 10, 10, 8

    LifeCycle Iso Bicep Curl
    50 - 10, 10, 10

    Close Grip Bench (Smith)
    140 - 10, 10, 10

    Skullcrushers
    90 - 10, 8, 6

    One arm Lying down Extensions
    15 - 10, 10
    20 - 8

    Reverse grip Push/Pulldowns
    90 - 10, 10, 10

    Pullovers
    135 - 10
    150 - 8, 8

    1 arm rows, cable machine
    60 - 10, 10, 10

    20 min low intense cardio, 15 min sauna

    Notes
    -Feelin good. Visible changes, feel thinner. The best thing is that when I diet and do as much cardio as I have, I'm usually flat. Well, I'm not, I'm very hard and still motivated to the max. No slowing down here.

    Weekly Notes
    - Week 1 has concluded. This week was close to perfection. I think I ate 2 slices of bacon with a sandwich I had, but other than that, things have been close to perfect. I couldnt be happier with my progress.
    - Sunday I do weight and bf%. Excited here. We'll see how well I really may have done.
    - Next week, going to be extremely challenging. I'm on-call 24/7 until the following Monday. This can interrupt training, diet, sleep. Not good.
    - I'm shooting for bigger numbers, same consistency.

  28. Way to hit it, glad to hear everything is rolling right along.
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  29. nice numbers bro
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  30. Dinner


    Wife went out with friends and ate so I got to treat myself to this!

    BTW, a few other notes -

    1. Increasing dosage of M1D as directed, starting tomorrow.
    2. Holding off on the OEP. Wouldn't be fair that I started the log 'recomping with' LG. We'll make adjustments accordingly thereafter. This is a marathon, not a sprint.

    Lastly, going to dose some 1-C before bed, get a great nites slumber and prep for another long week! It's coming together fellaz!
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