Promagnon Is Back!!! Introducing CEL PMag
- 05-05-2009, 12:17 PM
- 05-05-2009, 12:21 PM
My logic is this... if you're using the stim free Blue Up, it's not doing anything anyway. IMO it's not a productive product. The stimmed version is real nice though, but there's a bazillion other stims without yohimbe and other test boosters. See my logic?
- 05-05-2009, 12:27 PM
Things are going well. I have high hopes.
I've actually used Blue Up in the past and really enjoyed it. It did more for me than DTH ever did. - Just how it worked.
And no, I'm not sensitive to everything, just hormones. I've ran plenty of NHA stacks without issues even after I used Epidrol to rid my gyno last year. It stayed away the entire time until I used another hormone a month or so ago...I'm always sure to run AI's in conjunction with T-boosters. It's just always how I've done it.
So far things are going good. I'll keep you updated on it and definitely appreciate your advice on everything.
05-05-2009, 12:37 PM
Good deal Irish! The way it sounds now, the form should finish it off
Do you still deadlift in your "homeade" gym?
05-05-2009, 07:21 PM
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05-05-2009, 10:56 PM
what serm do you have on hand celc?
05-06-2009, 10:23 AM
weren't u the one who used to have some crazy DL vids in a basement gym? Maybe I have you confused with someone else
I have Torem, but only cause I made big purchase a while back. I don't like Torem and won't ever buy it again. It's a libido killer for me and the proposed positive effects on HDL were not there both times I got my bloodwork done. If I had to choose, I'd run Nolva if addressing gyno was my priority. I'd choose Clomid if addressing HPTA was my priority.
Funny thing happened this morning fellas. My gf saw me putting Taurine in my protein shake and she said "that must be SEXY powder. It's about time you took a supplement that actually worked." She pretty much grinded on my leg the rest of the morning while getting ready for work I tell her when I'm ON, but for whatever reason she doesn't believe me LOL
05-06-2009, 11:51 AM
05-06-2009, 12:56 PM
lol must be nice to have the GF supporting ya
gotta a Q : Celc5
I am torn Between Hdrol and Pmag
your having so much fun with this not sure which to choose
going to be stacking mine with Furazadrol
with how you feel so far which would you say would be a better stack Hdrol and Furazadrol or PMag and Furazadrol? I know both will be lean .
dam sorry bout the jack
05-06-2009, 01:25 PM
lol your girlfriend sounds funny!!!! she doesn't believe you that your ON cycle?
05-06-2009, 02:26 PM
if it's a cut, I'd go with Hdrol. If it's a recomp either PMag or HDrol would work. If it's a lean bulk, then I'd choose Pmag.
I tell her I'm on cycle even when I'm not though. She just thinks that I waste too much money on supps and she's probably right. But ya, either way she's funny and keeps me on my toes. I'm never bored
05-06-2009, 06:44 PM
learn, that avi is just wrong man...the devil tempted me to watch it and it was yummy lmao
and celc i bet everyone here waste too much money on supps lol
05-06-2009, 07:03 PM
agreed. That's why we need honest logs so we stop wasting money on unproductive supplements. The boards are riddled with BS hype for supps that have little to no effect.
Wednesday, May 6, 2009
3 Caps PMag
1 pump x 3 CEL Form
Back is getting a bit stronger. I've been adding 5 pounds every week to dumbell rows. Now that sounds great, but it's not as impressive to me as adding 5 pounds to my weekly bench based on my own strengths and weaknesses.
Biceps pump was rediculous. The main Biceps vein was popping out 1/2 way through my first WARM UP set of biceps. It usually doesn't make an appearance at least until the end of my first heavy working set. So yes, vascularity is nicely enhanced.
I've been waking up hungry the past few nights. So I take in an extra 40g pro and 40g carbs at like 2 or 3am for the past few nights. Hopefully, that will continue to have a positive effect on body comp.
And to finish off the gf comment from this morning, she can't stand the smell of TD formestane. Whatev... she can get out if she wants to complain
And first side effect was noted over the past 2-3 days. I have a zit on my forehead and chin. Actually, I'm sort of amused by the zits ince I rarely ever have any on my face. Maybe a bit of bacne, but no zits.
05-06-2009, 07:13 PM
what do you take the taurine for? back pumps?
05-06-2009, 07:16 PM
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05-06-2009, 07:51 PM
"I am NOT an alcoholic. Alcoholics have a drinking problem. I ain't got no problem drinking!!"
-My Best Friend
05-06-2009, 08:01 PM
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05-07-2009, 09:59 AM
the only ds ive been meaner on was SD lmao...that shizzle is baaad for my mood and my insides
and speakin of the "hood" i was in it yesterday with my gf getting some free KFC and i held the door for this whole family of "well off/rich" african americans...and not aone even looked at me or said thank you...o buddy i was about to go off, then this thug comes up behind me and hes going in and says "damn man if they aint gonna thank you i will(as he was shaking his head in disbelief as i was)" that made the situation 100 percent better because atleast some people have respect even though they dont look like it.
05-07-2009, 10:15 AM
"Steroid implications in different environments." That would an interesting thread
yes. I use the taurine for kidney health and to prevent back pumps. Those who say taurine isn't necessary are the minority of lucky ones who don't get back pumps. Backpump pain is tolerable but it can still ruin workouts. Taurine is super cheap and tasteless powder. So there's no excuse for price or convenience.
05-07-2009, 11:59 AM
05-07-2009, 12:10 PM
and yea i i went to KFC and cheated....but i had free 2 pc meal coupons! there were so many people there haha
05-07-2009, 12:11 PM
ok, ANYWAYS i just wanted to say that im on day 4 of H-roid and i can already feel it in the gym. ive ben on trenadrol for over 2 weeks and it hasnt impressed me(str gains are there but barely any noticable muscle gain/weight gain. i have shed alittle bodyfat though, i guess trenadrol isnt my kinda DS. i could care less how much i lift, i just wanna look like i can lift a house haha)...but the painful pumps i had in my forearms today brings back memories of my promagnon run. hit HUGE PR's today too. everything felt awesome
05-07-2009, 12:39 PM
05-07-2009, 12:59 PM
05-07-2009, 05:11 PM
05-07-2009, 08:31 PM
is h-roid same as hdrol?
05-07-2009, 09:22 PM
Pmag and H-Roid are clones of promag-25
05-07-2009, 10:05 PM
celc5- Out scoutting info on Pmag and ran into your thread. Good work showing your progression. I'm Subbed!
05-08-2009, 02:07 AM
quick question celc5, how you gonna dose your apct? 3/3/2/1? or whats your dosing scheme for that?
05-08-2009, 09:40 AM
Sounds like things are going well for you so far celc! Great stuff! How long you got left roughly till the end of the cycle?
05-08-2009, 12:57 PM
Learn pretty much cleared it up. PMag and Hroid are Promagnon25 clones. Hdrol is a Halodrol50 clone.
The only thing that I noticed is "substantially" different results. I'd say results are gonna be real close with both compounds. At the end of my log, I'll be sure to note my opinion on subjective differences between Hdrol and Pmag. At this point, you can't go wrong with either one and they're both good for first cycles and those with strong cycle histories IMO.
I plan to dose my aPCT 4/3/2/1 since I plan on NOT using a serm this time. I would choose Hyperdrol over aPCT but for some reason it irritates my stomach something fierce.
I should have more progression notes up tomorrow. I do my empty stomach weigh in and skinfolds on Saturday mornings.
3-5 more weeks ...not a typo
Friday, May 8, 2009
3 Caps PMag
1pump x 3 CEL Formestane
I had the day off so I finally got to dig into my stim stash for a morning workout. I used a few caps of BCL EPH which I personally think is an aggressive but smooth stim. Most others think it's a dud, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I don't stim for evening workouts because I suck at sleeping.
Anyway, the workout was chest and tris. I didn't see the strength jump this week that I've been having but there was an increase in productivity. For example, last week on DB Incline Bench I used 70's x 6,8,7. This week I did 10,8,9 with the 70's. I use real slow strict form since the poundages aren't a priority for me whatsoever. Some minor shoulder discomfort did hold me back from getting 10 all 3 sets but it was no big deal. I'm just overly cautious since I've been down the injury plagued road before.
I shot some basketball for 20 minutes of sprints pre-workout. Man it took a long time to loosen up, like 10 minutes before I could jump without my knees feeling rusty. That's probably because I only do that like once per week and/or because I should be stretching more often. Needless to say, the joints are just a little more creaky than usual.
Otherwise, pump is good, vascularity is good, mood is good, sleep is actually better than normal, and libido is normal. At this moment, gyno lump is non-existant and there's no sensitivity.
I haven't said so, but the nuts are normal size with no atrophy that I can tell at this point. Also, I showed my girl the Pmag bottle yesterday and she still doesn't believe that I'm taking steroids LMFAO No joke, she said "your nuts are too big to be on steroids." Gotdammit
05-08-2009, 03:16 PM
well pmag is so mild compared to people injecting crazy amounts of test or deca. most people think of the barry bonds looking guys with no balls when they think of steroids.
05-08-2009, 06:26 PM
05-08-2009, 07:01 PM
You got a really chilled out girlfriend sounds like Celc lol. You Jammy Sod! haha! Wish all girls would be supportive like that.
05-08-2009, 07:06 PM
Knowing women, all you have to do is rip off the P-Mag label and take a Sharpie to the bottle and write, "STEROIDS" - Then she'll believe you.
05-08-2009, 09:07 PM
and just a side not for me...promagnon and clones have pretty different effectrs on my body. i put on ALOT more weight and gain ALOT more str with promag, and i get super rediculous pumps. ive already mentioned i was on day 4 and i could feel it. i like to play guitar hero...and o buddy does that get my forearms pumped like a mad man lmao(playing on expert). hdrol leans me out alot more, but pmag and clones bulk me up alot more
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