Promagnon Is Back!!! Introducing CEL PMag
04-24-2009 06:49 PM
Alright Celc I just got my pmag, now am I supposed to take it with food or no? And I work out usually early in am like 5am, do I need to take it before workout or after?? Does it matter?
04-24-2009 10:21 PM
Doesn't matter. It's methylated so there's no difference from what I understand. I've dosed methyls with and without food personally and don't think it makes any difference IMO.
Originally Posted by djwalto
I think I get a bit of an aggression boost but that's a good 1-2 hours after dosing. It's tough to tell if it's the Pmag or the TD Form, or the combination.
04-24-2009 10:28 PM
Ok that's cool, then I won't worry about it!! Thanks man!!
04-25-2009 12:04 AM
Hey celc also did u start out with like one in the am, then one in th pm? Also I see that you are now taking 2 in the am and one later. Is that better than taking 3 all separate throughout the day??
04-25-2009 10:16 AM
I follow the 4 hour rule. Some think that liver supps including milk thistle, and especially Sam-E, can possibly interfere with methyl absorption while protecting the liver. The theory suggests that it takes about 4 hours for a methyl to clear the liver. In which I dose like this as an application of that theory:
First ph dose 8am
First support dose somewhere between 11am and 1pm
Second ph dose between 3pm and 5pm
Second liver support dose before bed around 9-11pm
At 200 pounds, most people who run P-Mag-esque compounds respond well at 75mg as the "sweet spot" for dosing in terms of good gains with minimal sides. So I dose 2 caps for my am dose, and 1 cap for my second dose.
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Edit: Day 9 Stats are up. Page 1, Post #2
04-25-2009 10:33 AM
I to follow that protocal
Originally Posted by celc5
good luck man will have to reade from page 1
04-25-2009 10:39 AM
Learn, you're like a Ninja... you quietly sneak into threads all over the place
Originally Posted by learn
04-25-2009 10:53 AM
04-25-2009 10:56 AM
U're telling me... this clown got 2 FREAKIN rep stars in about 2 weeks I think I've only seen that once or twice since I've been on this board
Originally Posted by Teg
04-25-2009 11:06 AM
Ya no doubt! He must be doing something good lol
04-25-2009 11:08 AM
celc...subbed for the long run brother
keep up the good work man
04-25-2009 01:49 PM
For those interested in running P-Mag, don't hesitate to reference 17a's threads. This guy absolutely nailed his Promagnon25 log. Honest feedback, no hype no bs. Top notch info that I got from this man
Originally Posted by 17amethyl
Saturday, Apirl 25, 2009
3 Caps P-Mag
1 x 2 CEL Formestane
Leg workout today. I moved real fast through squats, DB SLDL, Extensions, Calf Presses, and an abs superset. I skipped cardio today because I'm still wiped out from the work week. If I have time after the Pen's game, I'm going to round up the most uncoordinated chumps I can find for a little hoops this evening ...the worse they are, the less silly I feel when I dribble the ball off my foot and out of bounds
I didn't go super heavy today since I moved pretty quickly. But I noticed that I nailed almost all my lifts with really good slow control. No wobbly knees or unstable core, even on my third set of squats. I ALMOST puked a few times, but feel a lot better after my post wo shake.
Day 9 pics are up on page 1, post #2.
04-25-2009 04:20 PM
I'm here celc! Thanks for the invite! Now move over and give me some fckin' room! Just kidding...great log and results so far. I'm watching!
"I am NOT an alcoholic. Alcoholics have a drinking problem. I ain't got no problem drinking!!"
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04-26-2009 04:36 PM
Hey celc, Nice to hear the Form is working on removing that Gyno...Lets hope it clears it nicely
Read some interesting, but mixed views on Pro-mag before, Sounds like your doing well so far. Hope you enjoy the rest of your cycle bro. All the best
04-26-2009 04:56 PM
I have to pay attention to this...I hear Form clears gyno while you use it, but returns after you drop the Form...Have you experienced this before, Celc?
Originally Posted by WilteredFire
04-26-2009 06:40 PM
I agree. I've seen mixed reviews in the past. But, IMO those reviews are suspect. Maybe they had unrealistic expectations
Yes and no. I've had gyno reduction with a stack of form, trione, and Novedex. But it never was reduced in 4-6 weeks of that stack like it has reduced in about 7 days of form solo. Anyway, I've had it down 3 or 4 times, but yes it came back every time.
Sunday, April 26, 2009
3 Caps P-Mag
1 x 2 CEL TD Form
Today was an upper body power day. I saw a 10 pound increase in my 3 sets of 5 for bench. That's a big deal to me since chest is definately my weakest muscle group when compared to the majority with similar stats. So strength effects of P-mag are kicking in. The rest of the upper body lifts were solid, with 1-2 reps or 5 pounds increase here and there.
I had some cramping in my rotator cuff for the second week straight. That happens to me on cycle all the time, probably because I'm a "squeezer" when it comes to controlled movements and hard muscle contractions. I don't think it's a dehydration issue either. I've had about 1.5 gallons of water already today and still plan to take in a few more glasses here and there.
VPX Glucosacream took care of some of the rotator cuff pain for a short term analgesic. But, it's starting to come back. I'll be using that for a few days I guess.
04-26-2009 07:05 PM
Nice jump on bench. Mine just recently went up as well! Very happy about it. Flat Bench BB Press is definitely my weakest compound lift.
04-27-2009 09:18 AM
I wonder if it's because I've always had a balanced workout plan, even as a kid in JrHIgh and HS. I sort of wonder if most other guys at that age worked chest more frequently while I was squatting and pulling. Anyway, lucky for me, I've been blessed with a nice shape to my chest and don't really care how many plates are on the bar anyway. I still enjoy doing chest, but only seem to get stronger in that arena when I'm ON.
Originally Posted by Irish Cannon
04-27-2009 04:59 PM
should one be able to barbell row as much as he/she can bench? because my back is definately the dominant muscle in my body while my chest is average. but i cant barbell row 225, i can barbell row max 185, where i can bench max 245. IS THIS WEIRD?
04-27-2009 05:11 PM
You got a nice V with full/balanced looking shoulders in your avi. Who cares if the numbers are weird or typical
Originally Posted by buster0371
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