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    Arrow Day 14


    After all this talk about jumblies, I hope P-Mag is still interesting

    Day 14

    Thursday, April 30, 2009

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    Motivation was way up today. All I could think about all day at work was that I couldn't wait to get to the gym! Mood was great. My sense of humor was a bit aggressive in nature, but I'm pretty sure it stayed under control.

    Chest and tris workout was real good today. I did some staple moves like DB Incline and Weighted Dips but then decided to just have fun with the rest of the routine. I did like 5 exercises for tris including a DB tri-set for extensions on the incline, flat, and decline benches. One of the fun chest moves was 10 sets of 10 on the chest press machine. I thought it was gonna be light but after about 5 sets, the burn and pump were sick

    Libido is still rockin. I like the low dose form because it has libido and performance up. But, it's not giving me a one track mind. So, I can still function throughout the day without having to hump the coat rack every 10 minutes

    Gyno lump stays down throughout the day but has been a bit puffy again in the mornngs until I apply the form. Don't ask me what that means, I am clueless when it comes to this topic
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    hahaha...hump the coat rack? thats a new one. the pumps are gonna get better man...you'll be walking from your car to a store or wherever and you'll get some sick calf pumps for sure
    puffy nips is just because your taking hormones. happens all the time and people freak and think its gyno
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    Celc, do you feel a low-dose of Form in PCT could be beneficial? I just mixed up some of the new Penetrate with 5g of Form, and am about to start PCT on Saturday. I'm debating whether to apply 2 pumps (~80mg) per day for the first couple weeks, and then bumping it up, or waiting until about Week 3 and toss it in at 160mg/day.
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    TNasty,
    it was an issue before the cycle. This isn't something new.

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    personally I didn't get much from form in pct. I used it after a phera run last spring and it just didn't have the strength, aggression, libido effect. That's just a personal preference and I don't really plan on using it in pct.

    I really liked 6oxo. I'm not convinced that it does much in terms of controlling estrogen so I'll pass on that for pct as well.

    I am convinced that ATD controls estrogen well. I'm also convinced that libido is important for me personally. I've heard low dose theories with ATD but I still end up with a shaky libido.

    So that leaves bromo. I thought Hyperdrol was the shiit the one time I used it. Unfortunately, it wrecked my stomach the 2 times I've tried it since then. So that leaves me at aPCT, which is my AI of choice for this cycle.

    ...short question, long answer. I need "concise" lessons
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    isnt apct and hyperdrol x2 pretty much the same thing with the 6 bromo? why not try reversitol?
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    good stuff man, especially that +10 on bench...

    im sorry to hear about that gyno lump, but you know your sh!t and u seem to be keeping that fcker at bay haha...let me know if the problem keeps up, i could refer you to my source for nolva...its kicked gyno 2 the curb before for me plenty of times

    keep on truckin big guy
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    i wasnt talking about you, i was just saying people in general freak with alittle bit of puffyness
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    buster,
    yes. Some suspect it's the forksolin in HX2 that bothers my stomach. Note that I just checked the NP site and the sticky on the AX and the ingredient list isn't really there. Not sure what that means? Maybe more people were having the same stomach issues as I was

    Not a fan of a prop blend like resversitol. I've ran most of the ingredients seperately and like to be in control being able to adjust dosages. Plus I've seen bloodwork on other sites where the guys felt fantastic on it, but bloodwork showed really poor test recovery.

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    thanks brotha. I have an arsenal on hand so it'll eventually get taken care of.... I hope

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    I see where you're coming from and understand what you were trying to say. At the same time, I don't "freak" about anything as my gyno situation has been calmly disuscussed in great detail throughout this log.
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    Thanks for the advice on the Form. I'll probably toss it in at Week 3 of PCT or something rather than the beginning; it sounds as though Form has an effect on already present T-levels.
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    [QUOTE=celc5;1946854]

    So that leaves bromo. I thought Hyperdrol was the shiit the one time I used it. Unfortunately, it wrecked my stomach the 2 times I've tried it since then. So that leaves me at aPCT, which is my AI of choice for this cycle.

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    If you are a fan of 6-bromo, I have a feeling that something will be coming very soon that may excite you
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post

    So that leaves bromo. I thought Hyperdrol was the shiit the one time I used it. Unfortunately, it wrecked my stomach the 2 times I've tried it since then. So that leaves me at aPCT, which is my AI of choice for this cycle.

    QUOTE]

    If you are a fan of 6-bromo, I have a feeling that something will be coming very soon that may excite you
    Soon enough to be used in my pct? Hopefully, WITHOUT the histidine that's in aPCT and without forksolin and all that other bs in hyperdrol too
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompEdgeLabs View Post

    Soon enough to be used in my pct? Hopefully, WITHOUT the histidine that's in aPCT and without forksolin and all that other bs in hyperdrol too
    That part I am not 100% sure on. I can tell you it wont have any of the other things in it that you wish to avoid
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    will you be using Hypertest in your PCT ?
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    Arrow Day 15


    CompEdgeLabs,
    sweet deal! No arachnic acid or whatever that inflammatory supp is and no yohimbe either please LOL, not that I have a say in it anyway

    Learn,
    You know, I'd really like to try hypertest. But I think I just want to steer clear of test boosters because of all this nipple sensation bs that I've been through in the past. Hypertest sounds cool and I do feel like I'm missing out. I WOULD like to try Axis Slingshot, Axis creatine, and Axis NO product though just to keep it simple. I need to email the boss and see what is reasonable to ask for cause I'm not really in it for free supps

    Day 15

    Friday, May 1, 2009

    3 caps PMag
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    Let me start off by saying what a relief it is to be on a "feel good" cycle again. You get the pumps, the alpha male confidence, the vascularity, and strength without the lethargy of epithio, without the mental fogginess of phera, and without the limp willy from super (in my experience anyway).

    I started out today with a 5.3 mph 20 minute jog on the treadmill. Some warm ups and 3 working sets of squats, romanian deads, extensions, curls, and calf presses. Something like 90 or 100 minutes before I ran out of juice.

    My thighs feel like they are so swole that my skin might tear a little from how pumped my hams and quads are He he, that's a bit dramatic but I do have a nice pump

    I'm a bit weird when it comes to my favorite exercises. Traps and calves are my strong points. Today I hit 9 plates per side for 3 sets of 10 on the calf presses. I think my PR is 3 sets of 7 or 8 with 10 plates. So IMO, I think I can hit that next week and maybe shoot for something like 3 sets of 12 or 15 with 10 plates for the cycle. I'll make that a goal for week 5 or 6.

    No sides, libido is rockin, no nut shrinkage, no cramps, and to my surprise sleep patterns have actually been normal this week. I have nothing bad to say about Pmag yet... sorry to those who enjoy when I get cranky and rant when a supp doesn't deliver ...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post

    Let me start off by saying what a relief it is to be on a "feel good" cycle again. You get the pumps, the alpha male confidence, the vascularity, and strength without the lethargy of epithio, without the mental fogginess of phera, and without the limp willy from super (in my experience anyway).
    That sounds amazing. I'm just coming off of 60mg/day dose of epithio myself. - Crazy good pumps, but mood and lethargy are horrible. - P-Mag doesn't give you lethargy like H-drol?...or do you not experience that on H-drol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    That sounds amazing. I'm just coming off of 60mg/day dose of epithio myself. - Crazy good pumps, but mood and lethargy are horrible. - P-Mag doesn't give you lethargy like H-drol?...or do you not experience that on H-drol?
    Feeling letharfic is not common on H-Drol
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompEdgeLabs View Post
    Feeling letharfic is not common on H-Drol
    most logs I have read indicate that lethargy is not an issue with Hdrol. this is the 1st I have heard of this as well





    Celc5 log is looking good man . sounds like you are happy with the products
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    That sounds amazing. I'm just coming off of 60mg/day dose of epithio myself. - Crazy good pumps, but mood and lethargy are horrible. - P-Mag doesn't give you lethargy like H-drol?...or do you not experience that on H-drol?
    I had enhanced mood with Hdrol for about 3 weeks and then got a little more aggressive and cranky for the 4th and 5th week. But I didn't really have any lethargy on that cycle at all.

    Learn,
    you are correct. So far, I'm enjoying this stack a lot Mild enough to keep me happy and feeling healthy. But potent enough that I'm seeing positive changes in the mirror almost daily now, even while eating like horse!
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    Late but here! Keep it going Celc!
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Mild enough to keep me happy and feeling healthy. But potent enough that I'm seeing positive changes in the mirror almost daily now, even while eating like horse!
    thats why i liked it when i ran it. i ate soooo much with promag-25 and it just blew me up, barely no fat gain at all and my muscle grew daily (you can actually see in the mirror YOURSELF every morning, not just other people telling you your getting big)

    keep it goin son!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompEdgeLabs View Post
    If you are a fan of 6-bromo, I have a feeling that something will be coming very soon that may excite you
    CEL rocks AGAIN!
    I would be interested in just straight up 6-bromo.
    I was looking to order some at that "capped" website at 50mg/cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GotTest View Post
    CEL rocks AGAIN!
    I would be interested in just straight up 6-bromo.
    I was looking to order some at that "capped" website at 50mg/cap.
    lol I will hold off on that if I were you
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    Arrow Day 17


    Hman,
    just in time for it to kick in brotha! This is a nice mild one for a "fun" cycle and I sure bet it would stack real nicely in many different scenarios.

    Tnasty,
    Right on bro! I think I ate about 4000 cals on Friday after that brutal leg workout. I even woke up and had a pretty hearty chicken sandwhich at like 3am cause I starvin!

    GT,
    Agreed. Plain bromo without the bs

    Learn,
    I'm getting anxious. I'd certainly like to see more bromo options.

    Day 17

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    Add another 5 to the 5rm BB bench. Just like I said last week, my bench doesn't budge unless I'm hitting HST very strictly or when I'm ON cycle. That's up 15 pounds in 17 days! I had a few more good lifts today. For example, some weights that I moved for 5,4,3 reps last week went up to like 6,5,5 today. Did that sentence make sense?

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    OO nice nice making headway!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Hman,
    just in time for it to kick in brotha! This is a nice mild one for a "fun" cycle and I sure bet it would stack real nicely in many different scenarios.

    Tnasty,
    Right on bro! I think I ate about 4000 cals on Friday after that brutal leg workout. I even woke up and had a pretty hearty chicken sandwhich at like 3am cause I starvin!

    GT,
    Agreed. Plain bromo without the bs

    Learn,
    I'm getting anxious. I'd certainly like to see more bromo options.

    Day 17

    Sunday, May 3, 2009

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    Add another 5 to the 5rm BB bench. Just like I said last week, my bench doesn't budge unless I'm hitting HST very strictly or when I'm ON cycle. That's up 15 pounds in 17 days! I had a few more good lifts today. For example, some weights that I moved for 5,4,3 reps last week went up to like 6,5,5 today. Did that sentence make sense?

    Recomp is occuring. Stats will be updated on page 1 in 5 minutes


    yes i think so
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post

    So that leaves bromo. I thought Hyperdrol was the shiit the one time I used it. Unfortunately, it wrecked my stomach the 2 times I've tried it since then. So that leaves me at aPCT, which is my AI of choice for this cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Great log Celc could'nt ask for better detail/info
    Well I've been planning on running p25 ever since SD convinced me to keep the cycles fun LOL So I guess EVERYBODY wins in the deal Hopefully, somebody can learn from the log instead of asking you the same first cycle questions 9 billion times... I'm sure this is gonna be a hot seller, no hype needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Well I've been planning on running p25 ever since SD convinced me to keep the cycles fun LOL So I guess EVERYBODY wins in the deal Hopefully, somebody can learn from the log instead of asking you the same first cycle questions 9 billion times... I'm sure this is gonna be a hot seller, no hype needed.
    were you talking about me ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by learn View Post
    were you talking about me ?
    Yup... and by first cycle, I meant to say 21st LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Yup... and by first cycle, I meant to say 21st LOL
    ha ha
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    lov the log so far
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    any reason why you think the irritability has gone down? maybe nattural test is starting to suppress?
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    Good question. On one hand, I suspect it's a bit psychological. There is an aggression enhancing aspect, especially with the TD form. But I'm so aware of it that I've been choosing to not let it interfere with my personality.

    On the other hand, I've been sleeping at night (like 5 out of the last 7 nights which is INCREDIBLE for me). So I think the initial irritability might have been from sleep deprivation.

    And as you said, sure it's possible that there's some suppression. But from the studies I've seen haven't shown much in terms of Pmag being suppressive. And I have a reliable source (who does not have a hand in the supp industry for bodybuilding purposes) that helped me to confirm and further explain how mild Pmag is on the Hpta.

    Either way, I'm full of BS
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    so would you say that pmag is less suppressive than hdrol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by buster0371 View Post
    so would you say that pmag is less suppressive than hdrol?
    At this point subjectively, it's tough to tell because I'm only 1/2 way through the cycle. It has a milder "feel" than hdrol, but that doesn't tell us anything really LOL Pheraplex "felt" super duper mild even at 40mg but it was a tougher recovery than halo IMO (just to illustrate the point).

    According to the studies, yes P-Mag is less suppressive than halo. But from my experience, don't chalk that up as a negative to halo because it's a very "friendly" compound too.

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    Monday, May 4, 2009

    3 Cap P-Mag
    1 x 2 CEL Form
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    I had limited time for a shoulders workout today. Motivation was low and I was feeling a little burned out from a long work day. So, I decided to man up, and slam out a shoulder routine in 40 minutes that took me a good 70 minutes last week. No stims either since it was too late.

    Even with the time crunch, I still added 5 pounds each side to hammer shoulder presses. And I went from 3 sets of 10 with 120's for shrugs to 3 sets of 15. After the shoulder routine, I did a 1 hour powerball class which is a fun alternative to running on a wheel like a rat for cardio

    Gyno lump has NOT returned. No spontaneous sensations have returned either. But sensitivity if I bump it is there occasionally. All in all, CEL's TD form is holding it's own even when I thought for sure the lump was going to win the battle.
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    I hope that lump stays away for you even after you drop the Form! I'll be keeping an eye on the log for any changes. I'll be running my own TD-Form mix in a couple weeks. I'll be purchasing some CEL Form when it's available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I hope that lump stays away for you even after you drop the Form! I'll be keeping an eye on the log for any changes. I'll be running my own TD-Form mix in a couple weeks. I'll be purchasing some CEL Form when it's available.
    My best advice to you is to stay away from test boosters and from other AI's. I have a sneaky suspician that Novedex and 6oxo actually aggrevated the symptoms in the past. Same goes for fenugreek, yohimbe,and all the bs prop blends that I've tried. So if I were in your shoes, I'd run the form solo, which I get the impression is what you're doing already anyway.

    I've tried a laundry list of "dopamenergic" supps too. The one that I think helped the most was PowerFull, but only if I dosed it throughout the day. The night time only dosing, doesn't cut it.

    IMO B6, tyrosine, and Sam-E may have dopamenergic potential. But in my experience, none had any effect on reducing sensations like PowerFull did.
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