Promagnon Is Back!!! Introducing CEL PMag

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  1. In to follow along and learn a bit
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  2. This was a supplement that didnt get rave reviews years ago, but at the time it came out the ban was going into effect. Im wondering if thats why it wasnt much talked about. Im wondering if this has any noted relation to Nandrolone metabolites, if so, it could be interesting. Any one know?

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Knowbull View Post
    This was a supplement that didnt get rave reviews years ago, but at the time it came out the ban was going into effect. Im wondering if thats why it wasnt much talked about. Im wondering if this has any noted relation to Nandrolone metabolites, if so, it could be interesting. Any one know?
    I have no idea what your talking about, please elaborate if you would.

    Are you saying this could have flown under the radar and that this supplement could potentially be "hot stuff"?

  4. In for another Celc log. Kill it bro!

    Last year I ran a promagnon clone for 40 days at 75 mg. The strength gains were incredible. I'm definitely interested to see how this one works out for you.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by buster0371 View Post
    I have no idea what your talking about, please elaborate if you would.

    Are you saying this could have flown under the radar and that this supplement could potentially be "hot stuff"?
    Umm.. No... I mean yes... I dont know, thats what Im trying to find out. First run of anything seems to be the best, second go on same never seems to work as well, there are exceptions though, no one wants to waste their time, money and health on crap or potential crap. People find what consistently works for them and stay with it. It takes more than one log to make a decision and receptors need to be clean when a run is contemplated. Right now there are 2 products that stand out as meeting the criteria, in my mind and opinion anyway. I think we need some more logs that are unsponsored and objective. JMO

  6. I'm on the fence for recomending Hdrol or Pmag to my friend. He is an ecto with a hard time building muscle. We'll see how this log goes in persuading my decision.

  7. Yup, in the same quandry here, I didnt like HD that much, it was hyped and didnt live up to expecs for me phera sounded good but seemed to have a high side effect profile. Maybe this is different or better. Its all about augmenting existing gains in my mind, and keeping sides minimal to non-existant, gotta be mature about it.
  8. Arrow Day 4


    Teg,
    welcome bro. In reference to your sig, I have a family member with colitis and a friend had crohn's in the past. I'm sure you have it rough sometimes, especially with a bodybuilding diet. Kudos for kickin ass

    KnowBull,
    I think P25 flew in under the radar because it wasn't marketed like phera, SD, 1ad, 1t, etc. Do a topics search for "promagnon" and read the posts by Hank Vangut, 17amethyl, and 1 or 2 others. All good reviews.

    Sponsored or not, I don't play around with e-rep and all that BS. I promise a 100% honest log. If you know my posts, you'll see that I occasionally ruffle some feathers in exchange for honest feedback. If Pmag isn't what it's cracked up to be, I assure you that you'll find out in my log.

    Gator,
    welcome brotha! Glad to see you found your way into another one of my logs

    Day 4

    Monday, April 20, 2009

    3 Caps P-Mag
    1 pump x2 CEL TD Formestane
    5g Taurine

    I had a quick lift in today for upper body push, moreso to get some baseline strength measures for a new routine. I want to have some concrete numbers as to how strength progresses with P-Mag.

    After the lift, I took a PowerBall class to break up the monotony of queerball cardio. I hate cardio, but I'm starting to learn that it makes a huge difference in my BP. So I gotta stay creative and consistent.

    Mood is excellent over the past 2 days. Not sure if that has anything to do with the compounds. IIRC, I was a real happy camper on H-Drol for about 2-3 weeks until the aggression switch flipped. So, not sure if that means anything yet.

  9. yeah he is very honest about reviews, sponsored or not.

    i.e. HE DOESNT GIVE A F*CK

  10. Quote Originally Posted by buster0371 View Post
    yeah he is very honest about reviews, sponsored or not.

    i.e. HE DOESNT GIVE A F*CK
    Ok, great to hear, sorry if it seemed I was casting dispersions on celc5, objective reporting is the crux of accuracy and Im looking forward to this. From now on when I answer the phone, I will say, "Knowbulls whorehouse, we dont give a F*ck"

  11. YEAHHHHH THATS THE SPIRIT

  12. Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Teg,
    welcome bro. In reference to your sig, I have a family member with colitis and a friend had crohn's in the past. I'm sure you have it rough sometimes, especially with a bodybuilding diet. Kudos for kickin ass
    Many Thanks Mang! I hope your family member and friend are doing well! Its like a rollercoaster ride with me. 4weeks good, 2-3bad typically. But Your right it does suc, but i gotta adapt and overcome! Ive followed lots of your logs and posts for a couple 2 or 3yrs now on here and on da, "lurking" lol. Ive learned quite a bit! So many more thanks bro! I hope this one goes just as well if not better!

    Looking forward to your results!

  13. Knowbull,
    no offense taken whatsoever brotha. Forums need MORE skeptics IMO
    Feel free to ask any questions or offer suggestions

    Teg,
    there's a log from someone with IBS or colitis here on AM somewhere. He used Gut Health and had something like 30 days of significantly reduced symptoms. I'm not recommending a supplement for you because that would be bogus medical advice. I'm just saying that it might be something that you could research and look into a little.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Knowbull View Post
    Specifically, what are the other options, in your point of view?
    well what about p mag, since that is the topic of this thread. or maybe xtren [shameless plug].
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  15. Hey celc5, im new to these forums and have just ordered pmag and cycle assist and am totally stoked about it getting here. I just wanted to say hi and find out about you and your stats (height, weight, age) just to do a compare of your cycle amount to what I should run. Thanks

  16. yeah post some before pics up too, FUK it!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by djwalto View Post
    Hey celc5, im new to these forums and have just ordered pmag and cycle assist and am totally stoked about it getting here. I just wanted to say hi and find out about you and your stats (height, weight, age) just to do a compare of your cycle amount to what I should run. Thanks
    Pmag SHOULD be a newbie friendly cycle IMO. For pct, pick up an AI, creatine, and another cycle assist and you should be good to go IMO.

    For more Pmag information, do a "titles only" advanced search for "promagnon"

    Stats: 29yo, 5'10", about 194, maybe 16 or 17ish% bf

  18. Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Pmag SHOULD be a newbie friendly cycle IMO. For pct, pick up an AI, creatine, and another cycle assist and you should be good to go IMO.

    For more Pmag information, do a "titles only" advanced search for "promagnon"

    Stats: 29yo, 5'10", about 194, maybe 16 or 17ish% bf
    Which AI you going with this time?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by GotTest View Post
    Which AI you going with this time?
    AXapct. IF the gyno stays at bay, I'll just run Sustain.

    If the gyno flares up, I'm gonna do a longish EOD run with Torem to get rid of it once and for all.

    Edit: btw, I'd run Hyperdrol but for whatever reason it wrecks my stomach. I ran it once just fine but have had trouble with it since the latest batches. I've had a few friends who ordered it before and liked it. Then picked up another bottle last fall and couldn't tolerate it... it was weird ???

  20. Awesome thanks man, hope everything goes great!!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    AXapct. IF the gyno stays at bay, I'll just run Sustain.

    If the gyno flares up, I'm gonna do a longish EOD run with Torem to get rid of it once and for all.

    Edit: btw, I'd run Hyperdrol but for whatever reason it wrecks my stomach. I ran it once just fine but have had trouble with it since the latest batches. I've had a few friends who ordered it before and liked it. Then picked up another bottle last fall and couldn't tolerate it... it was weird ???
    aPCT...no sheet...that's what I'm going with next PCT too.

    I ran the HDX2 myself last year and had a tab bit of the squirts...not too bad. It's the Forskolin in it. I kinda got used to it after a week though, but still going with the aPCT.

    I was looking around for other 6-Bromo sources, but I just trust AX. I did notice IDS had a Bromo out, but than again do I "trust" them anymore.

  22. ive heard of people getting bunk batches of hdrol? any truth to this?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by buster0371 View Post
    ive heard of people getting bunk batches of hdrol? any truth to this?
    cel tests all their stuff, just ask for a COA. They will be more than happy to provide it.
    ☣☣☣☣Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Representative☣☣☣☣
    Mesomorph | Hemavo2 | Endurance | 100% Whey Protean | REM 8.0

  24. Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    cel tests all their stuff, just ask for a COA. They will be more than happy to provide it.
    thanks tex. appreciate that

  25. What are expected gains for Promagnon type stuff? I looked up some old p-25 reviews and one received no gains while the other only received 3-4 lbs. They also recommended it with Max-lmg on one of the logs I read.
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    Mesomorph | Hemavo2 | Endurance | 100% Whey Protean | REM 8.0
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    DJ,
    After rereading my reply to you, don't necessarily interpret "newbie friendly" as less productive. I fully expect to gain something 6 or 8 lean pounds on this cycle with minimal negative effects. It's a win win situation IMO.

    GotTest,
    I've dabbled with AX aPCT before and it kicked almost like hyperdrol. I've never ran it for pct but expect it to be just fine.

    Day 5

    Tuesday, April 21, 2009

    3 Cap P-Mag
    1 x 2 pumps CEL Formestane
    Cycle Assist
    Taurine

    Fellas I gotta say that libido has increased steadily over the past 2-3 days. My girl made a comment tonight that we have went at it every night since Friday, which was day 1 of the cycle. That's more than usual, maybe more like EOD typically. I've also been noticing women and oggling like a creep more than usual too.

    I suspect the TD form is the culprit for the libido boost, even though I'm dosing pretty darn low. At the same time, there's a handful of people who report a libido boost from promagnon so it could be either one or the combo.

    Muscle fullness was noticable today, but nothing drastic. I worked a really looooooong day today and plugged away nicely. I hope that mental clarity stays sharp later in this cycle. I think I had a bit of "fogginess" with quick decision making at the end of my Pheraplex run.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    DJ,
    After rereading my reply to you, don't necessarily interpret "newbie friendly" as less productive. I fully expect to gain something 6 or 8 lean pounds on this cycle with minimal negative effects. It's a win win situation IMO.

    GotTest,
    I've dabbled with AX aPCT before and it kicked almost like hyperdrol. I've never ran it for pct but expect it to be just fine.

    Day 5

    Tuesday, April 21, 2009

    3 Cap P-Mag
    1 x 2 pumps CEL Formestane
    Cycle Assist
    Taurine

    Fellas I gotta say that libido has increased steadily over the past 2-3 days. My girl made a comment tonight that we have went at it every night since Friday, which was day 1 of the cycle. That's more than usual, maybe more like EOD typically. I've also been noticing women and oggling like a creep more than usual too.

    I suspect the TD form is the culprit for the libido boost, even though I'm dosing pretty darn low. At the same time, there's a handful of people who report a libido boost from promagnon so it could be either one or the combo.

    Muscle fullness was noticable today, but nothing drastic. I worked a really looooooong day today and plugged away nicely. I hope that mental clarity stays sharp later in this cycle. I think I had a bit of "fogginess" with quick decision making at the end of my Pheraplex run.
    h-drol makes me randy as an old goat, well i am an old goat. anyways, i guess the effects might be similar. btw this is a potent batch of formestane, very good stuff even at low doses.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  28. Hey Celc5, I wanted to ask you how many calories your taking in and carbs and protein your getting also? I just got off an awesome 90 day run where I went from 256 to 204 so I have lost a bunch of fat and I want to add a little size but at the same time keeping my fat the same or better peeling off my last 10lbs or so. So I wanted to see what you thought of how many cals I should hit daily to peel off some bf and add the lean muscle?? Also I workout early in the mornings with circuit training where its a cardio based weight lifting. Do you think that that will work well with the pmag? Thanks for any insight you can give me!

  29. Quote Originally Posted by buster0371 View Post
    ive heard of people getting bunk batches of hdrol? any truth to this?
    No truth to it at all. A couple people posted bad reviews over at BN, but there were alot of people that came right back with positive reviews on the same batch. Also, that batch had been tested by proviant and RTP both and had tested out fine both times.

    Two things to remember - a batch for us is several thousand bottles. Just because a couple people dont respond well to a certain product doesnt make a batch bad. Individual response varies with everything including ph's. Also, anyone can leave a review, whether they actually take the product or not.
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