Are your balls Diesel? Diesel Test Hardcore/Sunami libido/strength Log.

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  1. AHh, was wondering. I know it inhibits DHT by blocking 5 alpha-reductase, so essentially you keep more test floating around if I'm not mistaken. My bad entirely, didn't think it was an ingredient, but was to lazy to run downstairs and check. Come to think of it, could've looked it up, sorry man.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    AHh, was wondering. I know it inhibits DHT by blocking 5 alpha-reductase, so essentially you keep more test floating around if I'm not mistaken. My bad entirely, didn't think it was an ingredient, but was to lazy to run downstairs and check. Come to think of it, could've looked it up, sorry man.
    No problemo!! I'm taking it for hair/prostate protection, I have no idea if it might have an effect on alpha male feelings/agression by inhibiting DHT..
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by 1HP View Post
    I don't think I'm getting all out of this stack libido wise, jump in libido/agression is gone again. I think I started out on too high a dose.

    I did:
    Day 1-5: 1/1/1 DTHC, 1/1/1 Sunami
    Day 6: 2/1/1 DTHC, 1/1/1 Sunami
    Day 7: 2/1/1 DTHC, no Sunami
    Day 8 (today): 1/1/1 Sunami, no DTHC

    I plan on doing the following:
    Day 9: OFF
    Day 10,11,12: DTHC 1/1, Sunami 1/1
    Day 13 and on: start increasing dosages..

    Anybody knows if the DHT inhibiting effects of Saw Plametto might influence this stack negatively?
    u can use Saw Palmetto with this stack. Also this stack is 1st for increased test levels, so if ur using the stack maily for libido u might want to do 3 Sumami/day and 2 DTH day (1 am and 1 pm) like u said.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    u can use Saw Palmetto with this stack. Also this stack is 1st for increased test levels, so if ur using the stack maily for libido u might want to do 3 Sumami/day and 2 DTH day (1 am and 1 pm) like u said.
    Great thanks!!!! I think the DTHC is very strong for me. I remember my max dose on the older DT's was 4 caps before libido shutdown. I'll try 2 DTHC..

  5. Cool, always great to have questions answered!! Great log 1HP, and good support Chuck! Hey 1HP, you try JP8 yet? It's crazy sick with this stack, trust me. I was even able to lower my dose since starting this stack and get better results,boggled my mind.
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  6. No I didnt try JP8 yet but I'm tempted to put it in my cart with my Xtend order

    Day 8 update:
    Dose: 0/0/0 DTHC 1/1/1 Sunami

    Beat previous max lifts:
    Top squat set now at 10x320 lbs (+10)
    Top clean&press set now at 5x145 lbs (+15)

    Weight: 187 lbs (-4)
    Waist 34.2" (-0.4)

    Libido: slightly above normal today, yesterday below normal, the day before that way up but needed a trigger

    Notes:
    I think I started on a too high dose, libido is rising now, see if I can keep that going.
    Yesterday I only did 4 DTHC, today only 3 Sunami, felt happier/more relaxed today, bit more aggressive yesterday. Funny..
    I am really fking hungry all day long!!! I started out below maintenance, I'm over maintenance now I think, will calc tomorrow.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by 1HP View Post
    I don't think I'm getting all out of this stack libido wise, jump in libido/agression is gone again. I think I started out on too high a dose.

    I did:
    Day 1-5: 1/1/1 DTHC, 1/1/1 Sunami
    Day 6: 2/1/1 DTHC, 1/1/1 Sunami
    Day 7: 2/1/1 DTHC, no Sunami
    Day 8 (today): 1/1/1 Sunami, no DTHC

    I plan on doing the following:
    Day 9: OFF
    Day 10,11,12: DTHC 1/1, Sunami 1/1
    Day 13 and on: start increasing dosages..

    Anybody knows if the DHT inhibiting effects of Saw Plametto might influence this stack negatively?
    Def not! Limiting dht conversion means more active test is in the body. Same goes with limiting estrogen conversion....to a degree, but you really don't want to eliminate either.
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  8. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Def not! Limiting dht conversion means more active test is in the body. Same goes with limiting estrogen conversion....to a degree, but you really don't want to eliminate either.
    Estrogen is one very misunderstood hormone!

  9. but saw palmeto only block dht mainly in the scalp, right?

  10. Def not! Limiting dht conversion means more active test is in the body. Same goes with limiting estrogen conversion....to a degree, but you really don't want to eliminate either.
    Yeah, good call there. My understanding is you don't want to eliminate them, so much as control them.

    Beat previous max lifts:
    Top squat set now at 10x320 lbs (+10)
    Top clean&press set now at 5x145 lbs (+15)

    Weight: 187 lbs (-4)
    Waist 34.2" (-0.4)
    AWESOME man!! kee up the good work!! I also am above where I should be on calories, b8t, no pudge gained to report, so that works. I'm over by about 500, closer to my 13 calories per pound of body weight intake.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by ari4216 View Post
    but saw palmeto only block dht mainly in the scalp, right?
    It can prevent DHT binding to the receptor in the prostate and block 5-alpha reductase from forming DHT. Nothing u take orally will block DHT only at the scalp.

  12. Day 9 & Day 10:

    Dose 1/0/1 DTH, 1/0/1 Sunami both days

    I wanted to try a lower dose for 2 days, Since the DTH and Sunami effect me in different ways, especially mood wise, I want to start experimening on what dosages of which I like most in combination.

    On the lower dosage the skin on my forehead is noticable less oily. Also the mood improvements are less pronounced. This dose is clearly too low, upping it up tomorrow

  13. Cool man, thanks for the update! That dose was working well for me, but it will obviously vary between individuals to some degree. Just started the schedule, 3 DTH in one day is rough, man does that stuff work!!

  14. Yeah, I'm gonna do 1/1/1 DTH 1/1/0 Sunami today and maybe tomorrow aswell, then bump to 2/1/1 DTH 1/1/0 Sunami. I'm taking things slow to get a better feel for dosage differences.

  15. Day 11 & Day 12:
    Dose 1/1/1 DTH, 1/1/0 Sunami

    Noticable more agression on this dose then on 1/0/1 DTH, 1/0/1 Sunami. It's more of a shorter fuse thing and some road rage, get annoyed easily by slow driving cars etc.

    Squat up again too, now at 10x325.

    Weight up, 190 lbs (that's +3 lbs in the past 4 days).

    I'm really very hungry all day long, eating more then before (+/- 500 cals more) which puts me in a small calorie surplus in stead of deficit. Also cant seem to get satisfied until I get some carbs in.

    I think I do like that 1/0/1 Sunami better then the 1/1/0. The happy feeling subsides a little at night with the latter dosing, and that feeling is quite addictive..

  16. I'm trying the 3 DTH and 2 Suanmi, with the Suanmi in the morning and evening. So far, it's working well, no complaints, 2 more DTH to go and 1 Sunami. Time will tell, good luck bud!!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by 1HP View Post
    Day 11 & Day 12:
    Dose 1/1/1 DTH, 1/1/0 Sunami
    End of Day 12 and libido is up up and up, damn I'm horny atm..

    Tomorrow I'm bumping to 2/1/1 DTH and 1/1/0 Sunami, oh dear..

  18. Day 13:
    Dose 1/1/1 DTH 1/1/0 Sunami. Kept dose the same as past 2 days since both my libido and mood is going up each day. I had that huge libido surge that was really too much around a week back on 4DTH and 3 Sunami, so taking it slow now on dosage increases

    Especially noticable is increased assertiveness, I just don't take any **** at all from anyone.

    Beardgrow rate is really annoying lol.

    Hey checkout the size of my balls WTF:

    Left ball: 34x52 mm
    Right ball: 35x50 mm

    Upper leg: 24.8"
    Waist: 34.2"
    Arm: 14.9"
    Chest 48"
    Weight: 189 lbs

    Start:
    Quote Originally Posted by 1HP View Post

    Left ball:31x45 mm
    Right ball:33x45 mm

    Upper leg: 24.8"
    Waist: 34.6"
    Arm: 14.8"
    Chest 47.2"
    Weight 191 lbs

  19. you think i should add sunami to DTH for a first time user?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by ari4216 View Post
    you think i should add sunami to DTH for a first time user?
    Yeah for sure, just start really low like 2 DTH a day, then make it 3 and slowly start adding the Sunami 1 at a time. You have to play around a bit to get how you like it best.

    More DTH is more agression, more Sunami is more happy feelings, you can really finetune your mood on this combination which is one of its best features for me so far.. I love this ****!!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by 1HP View Post
    Yeah for sure, just start really low like 2 DTH a day, then make it 3 and slowly start adding the Sunami 1 at a time. You have to play around a bit to get how you like it best.

    More DTH is more agression, more Sunami is more happy feelings, you can really finetune your mood on this combination which is one of its best features for me so far.. I love this ****!!
    but dont sunami and DTH have some similar ingrediant though, howd u get happy feelings?

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    from the PEA, quebracho, muira puama, mucuna pruiens and reservatrol?

  23. I'm no expert at all, but I suspect the pregnolone to be mainly responsible for this.

  24. Yessir, this stack is very solid, the gains I've been making just the first week alone are nuts!! I agree with 1HP. you can really dial stuff in with this stack, depending on what you'r looking for. I also agree to start low like he said, you can always go up from there. Make sure your sucking down extra water. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.....

  25. Beardgrow rate is really annoying lol.
    Wish I had hair to grow on top of my head!! If my balls get any bigger, they're gonna need their own zip code.
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